EPThttp://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/video/mlg-video/976578511001-hail-to-the-king
Video of MC/IdrA throat-slash and flip off
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Slasher
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Mr. Wiggles
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EDIT: Anyone mind pointing him out? | ||
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duck.fit
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On June 05 2011 09:56 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I actually can't find where IdrA is in that video, haha. :p EDIT: Anyone mind pointing him out? he's sitting on the floor in front | ||
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Darclite
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But damn, MC is a bloody rock god. | ||
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Nuttyguy
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rivalry is going to be sick if idra doesn't play mc at MLG they aren't going to be playing each other for ages | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
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Ok, I see him now, thanks  | ||
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Zapdos_Smithh
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GO IDRA! | ||
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napo
Romania622 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:11 Illusionnist wrote: stupid... i hate mc so much, How can you hate such a baller? :O Idra earned my respect too with that reaction. They HAVE to play each other at MLG again! | ||
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Zeri
United States773 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:04 lee365 wrote: Mc is such a boss you misspelled IdrA | ||
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pHelix Equilibria
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leecH
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hope they have to play each other again! | ||
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InToTheWannaB
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Reborn8u
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On June 05 2011 09:56 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I actually can't find where IdrA is in that video, haha. :p EDIT: Anyone mind pointing him out? @ 36 seconds, Idra is sitting on the floor in front. LoL @ the very end it stays on a screen of a guy whose sign reads "IKEA sponsor mlg" with a picture of a chair. | ||
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Hollis
United States505 Posts
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Lennon
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On June 05 2011 09:54 Blardy wrote: I had to watch it several times to even see it. I dont get what the big deal is. It's banter. | ||
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itkovian
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absalom86
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Bobo_XIII
United States429 Posts
So excited | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:01 Greatness wrote: you never get that sort of reaction from the audience in South Korea. It happends in SC1. I've heard people chant for Boxer and Yellow and Flash and Jaedong | ||
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Stress
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GoShox
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GoShox
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On June 05 2011 10:28 SpoR wrote: I dunno if i watched the wrong video or what cause I can't see any of the things mentioned. people just chanting mc while he high fives random fans.. It's at like 35 seconds, he points at Idra (who is at the bottom of the screen) and Idra flips him off. Idra is really dark so it's kinda hard to see, but watch it a few times and you'll see it. | ||
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Roe
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FrayzZeUsher
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On June 05 2011 10:33 Garnet wrote: what were they chanting? M.C! M.C! M.C! Min chul - his initials | ||
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RaLakedaimon
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Lucid90
Canada340 Posts
That way MC would of been even angrier, and idra would of had the worlds biggest smile. | ||
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Dalguno
United States2446 Posts
Just kidding, but it did make me laugh. | ||
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DazedBlur
United States8 Posts
Flip off wins <3 Idra | ||
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sur_reaL
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mYiKane
Canada1772 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:39 Lucid90 wrote: I think idra missed a brilliant opportunity. I didn't watch the video, but I don't think giving him the finger is the best response. I think further aggravating him when he's already angry AKA trolling him is the best route to go. That way your opponent feels even more frustrated and angry, while you have fun at the expense of his misery. Idra should of made a stupid face, came really close to the glass and started humping the wall/making monkey noises while smiling and flailing his arms around. That way MC would of been even angrier, and idra would of had the worlds biggest smile. i lol'ed. so true too | ||
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ePLocust
United States587 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:01 Xanatoss wrote: God I hope MC gets smashed by Idra again. I really dislike his arrogant behavior. and idra isn't arrogant? | ||
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Vandalman
United States66 Posts
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Terrakin
United States1440 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:47 Vandalman wrote: haha whyd MC do that after he got rolled by idra? for showmanship mostly, but also helps the psychological battle | ||
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johanngrunt
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too bad i'm about 12 hours out of sync. | ||
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Rawrsi
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slicknav
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Navillus
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On June 05 2011 10:39 Lucid90 wrote: I think idra missed a brilliant opportunity. I didn't watch the video, but I don't think giving him the finger is the best response. I think further aggravating him when he's already angry AKA trolling him is the best route to go. That way your opponent feels even more frustrated and angry, while you have fun at the expense of his misery. Idra should of made a stupid face, came really close to the glass and started humping the wall/making monkey noises while smiling and flailing his arms around. That way MC would of been even angrier, and idra would of had the worlds biggest smile. This is why you watch the video, it was after MC beat Thorzain, Idra was just sitting on the floor with the crowd. | ||
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RaLakedaimon
United States1564 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:53 GrazerRinge wrote: i see it coming....idra vs mc in finals...i see it coming.... It would be a nice ending to MLG I think. By the change in Idra's play I don't see him losing if they play again either, the way he played vs him before was crazy. Can't wait to get those reps because I couldn't tell how he got so far ahead and just kept coming at him. | ||
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Frozzen
Sweden73 Posts
The only one I have seen that have done good poses is m00nGlaDe | ||
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Torte de Lini
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On June 05 2011 10:49 Terrakin wrote: for showmanship mostly, but also helps the psychological battle To show he wants revenge? | ||
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edc
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forgottendreams
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Passion is what makes anything go from good to great. | ||
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shakenbake
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RinconH
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He is doing it to spice things up as a showman. I'm sure he doesn't have anything against Idra. It's great how animated the crowd was... hopefully makes more Koreans come to these events when they see the energy. | ||
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Ubes
Ireland111 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:03 FreezerJumps wrote: Not that surprising honestly, because that's a perfect representation of the characters they have always portrayed. I want an Idra v MC final shit would be too epic. | ||
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:01 Xanatoss wrote: God I hope MC gets smashed by Idra again. I really dislike his arrogant behavior. Oh my, the irony | ||
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Cfood
United States46 Posts
This is nothing but another great rivalry in my opinion. | ||
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anzient
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BeefEU
Netherlands260 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:12 Cfood wrote: Part of me thinks this is MC having a good time. He must have known he would have gotten a reaction out of the crowd by doing that. He's laying the pavement for some epic story lines if he continues to make the trip out to foreign tournaments. This is nothing but another great rivalry in my opinion. Totally agree with this, I've seen some pictures of this MLG where you see IdrA and MC chillin' together.. | ||
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Specimenbear
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On June 05 2011 11:04 edc.initiative wrote: Pretty pathetic on MC's part since he got destroyed by IdrA. In this situation, I would say that IdrA's flip off is justified. Despite being a die-hard Protoss player, if I ever see IdrA go against MC again I'm cheering for IdrA. Are you being serious? It's all in good fun. Get a sense of humor guys! | ||
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Zeri
United States773 Posts
Meh, not too ironic. Its much different for MC.. for proof, try to imagine IdrA doing that ceremony. It just wouldn't happen. IdrA's bm is almost entirely responsive to other people... he doesn't actively act really cocky all the time.. hes actually pretty quiet.... | ||
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Grantiere
United States129 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:01 Greatness wrote: Audience chanting MC, man, he probably will love coming to MLG every season, you never get that sort of reaction from the audience in South Korea. GSL studio chanted Nestea's Korean name after the epic scFou game in last season's GSL semifinals. Edit: also, maybe they both feel comfortable doing it because they kinda know each other? There's a photo floating around from yesterday with Incontrol in the foreground, and Idra and MC chatting amiably in the background. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10324 Posts
how are we supposed to open up esports to the newer and younger generations if we allow things like this? How would a kid's parents react when they see their child's idol flipping another player off. >.> | ||
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Vetrocide
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On June 05 2011 11:14 anzient wrote: Mc such a showman, and Idra gets all serious and flips him...what a looser maybe you should learn how to spell the word ''loser'' before you claim a person to be one idiot. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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MechKing
United States3004 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:17 Zeri wrote: Meh, not too ironic. Its much different for MC.. for proof, try to imagine IdrA doing that ceremony. It just wouldn't happen. IdrA's bm is almost entirely responsive to other people... he doesn't actively act really cocky all the time.. hes actually pretty quiet.... Idra? Quiet? Does not compute. In LAN's, yes, but otherwise he is very vocal. | ||
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laharl23
United States582 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:18 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Wow, idra sorry but that is too far... how are we supposed to open up esports to the newer and younger generations if we allow things like this? How would a kid's parents react when they see their child's idle flipping another player off. >.> can't tell if serious -.- | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10324 Posts
maybe you should learn how to spell the word ''loser'' before you claim a person to be one idiot. Maybe instead of attacking someone for a mechanical error, you should instead reply to what he said properly and actually say something. I could be just like you and pick at how you didn't use punctuation, and then call you an idiot. But that doesn't bring a discussion anywhere. | ||
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Zeri
United States773 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:20 MechKing wrote: Idra? Quiet? Does not compute. In LAN's, yes, but otherwise he is very vocal. if by vocal you mean typing and therefore non-vocal, I concur. | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:54 Rawrsi wrote: Good to see Idra step up his micro game after the Artosis missed high-five. Holy shit - that would have been EPIC !! Instead of doing the flip-off, had IdrA been one of the people calling for high fives in the crowd. MC didn't recognize him until that other guy pointed out IdrA, so he easily could have done to MC what Artosis did to him. That would have been hilarious. | ||
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EzPz
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was this before they played each other? Because i thought IdrA walked away with a 2-0 win over MC? | ||
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THEPPLsELBOW
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On June 05 2011 11:18 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Wow, idra sorry but that is too far... how are we supposed to open up esports to the newer and younger generations if we allow things like this? How would a kid's parents react when they see their child's idle flipping another player off. >.> good joke sir | ||
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Ballistixz
United States1269 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:17 Zeri wrote: Meh, not too ironic. Its much different for MC.. for proof, try to imagine IdrA doing that ceremony. It just wouldn't happen. IdrA's bm is almost entirely responsive to other people... he doesn't actively act really cocky all the time.. hes actually pretty quiet.... responsive to other ppl? have u seen his stream? soon as he looses a game he will not hesitate to say "go kill urself" to whoever he looses to lol | ||
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Venedar
United Kingdom24 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:18 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Wow, idra sorry but that is too far... how are we supposed to open up esports to the newer and younger generations if we allow things like this? How would a kid's parents react when they see their child's idle flipping another player off. >.> If you're serious, then he is no worse then alot of so called "children's idles". Many sports stars come out with rape charges, drug scandels, bar fights and all sorts, a bird is hardly the worst thing that could come out of a "children's idle" doing something wrong. Side note the link seems to go to a MC Vs ThorZain post-game celebration not the MC/IdrA video, anyone got a new link or has it been taken down? | ||
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pallad
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On June 05 2011 10:01 Xanatoss wrote: God I hope MC gets smashed by Idra again. I really dislike his arrogant behavior. And Idra is better ?:D Artosis well said , Idra and MC are the same | ||
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Zeri
United States773 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:23 Ballistixz wrote: responsive to other ppl? have u seen his stream? soon as he looses a game he will not hesitate to say "go kill urself" to whoever he looses to lol We'll if hes loosening games then he deserves such BM... but in all seriousness, Idra usually wont say that out of a void. either you are ignoring the chat at the beginning of the game or there is a history between the players that you don't know about. But seriously those games were so loose.... | ||
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Mephiztopheles1
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On June 05 2011 11:18 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Wow, idra sorry but that is too far... how are we supposed to open up esports to the newer and younger generations if we allow things like this? How would a kid's parents react when they see their child's idle flipping another player off. >.> Wait, wait, so now a sign that signifies "fuck off" is worse than a sign that signifies "I will kill you/you're dead"... Talk about double standards... If we're to talk about younger generations, neither act is appropriate. | ||
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deerpark87
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On June 05 2011 11:26 pallad wrote: And Idra is better ?:D Artosis well said , Idra and MC are the same Not really. MC has 2 gsl titles. | ||
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Retgery
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On June 05 2011 11:22 EzPz wrote: Sorry i'm confused was this before they played each other? Because i thought IdrA walked away with a 2-0 win over MC?This was after his win against Thorzain. He went into the crowd for high-fives, and he taunted Idra with that throat slash. | ||
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Zeiryuu
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10324 Posts
Did I miss it, or does the link now only show MC high five'ing his fans and then doing the cut throat gesture? I didn't see Idra in it, and the description is tagged with Idra and MC but the description says "postmatch reaction MC vs Thorzain"... f you're serious, then he is no worse then alot of so called "children's idles". Many sports stars come out with rape charges, drug scandels, bar fights and all sorts, a bird is hardly the worst thing that could come out of a "children's idle" doing something wrong. Side note the link seems to go to a MC Vs ThorZain post-game celebration not the MC/IdrA video, anyone got a new link or has it been taken down? True, and sorry for the typo too much sc  Anyway, in traditional sports, often there is media or public criticism, and it seems (to me at least) that the majority of the response is negative. However in this case, it seems to be that there is more positive response than negative response. Wait, wait, so now a sign that signifies "fuck off" is worse than a sign that signifies "I will kill you/you're dead"... Talk about double standards... If we're to talk about younger generations, neither act is appropriate. True, neither act is "truly" appropriate, but the cut throat signal to me is a lot less... offensive? I think? As in, yeah it's like a death threat, but it's used so much in popular culture that it's "offensiveness" isn't so "offensive", if that makes sense... hope I explained that well? It's used commonly but also usually used in a sort of humorous way... you see it in cartoons, etc. This may differ from culture to culture though of course, but I'm sharing that based on what I've seen where I've lived before. | ||
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:17 Zeri wrote: Meh, not too ironic. Its much different for MC.. for proof, try to imagine IdrA doing that ceremony. It just wouldn't happen. IdrA's bm is almost entirely responsive to other people... he doesn't actively act really cocky all the time.. hes actually pretty quiet.... You do realize that idra is the guy who has called almost every other pro sc2 player, with select few exceptions, bad. The guy who at times seems to be convinced his superior mechanics should automatically win him games, and if they don't the game is flawed. The guy who has more legendary bm quotes than any other player. Don't get me wrong, I really like idras play and for the most part the personality he brings to the scene. However claiming that he would be much less arrogant than mc is just silly. Sure I don't see idra performing ceremonies like mc but that's hardly the only way to express arrogance. | ||
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LolitsPing
United States285 Posts
I agree that neither act is appropriate but in the world of sports, thrash talk happens all the time. Who cares if either is less offensive, they both are. The problem is that in most American's eyes, the flip off would be a lot more offensive than the throat-slash. Now I really hope idrA destroys him when they play. He better prepare a nasty build against MC. | ||
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Zeri
United States773 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:36 Badboyrune wrote: You do realize that idra is the guy who has called almost every other pro sc2 player, with select few exceptions, bad. The guy who at times seems to be convinced his superior mechanics should automatically win him games, and if they don't the game is flawed. The guy who has more legendary bm quotes than any other player. Don't get me wrong, I really like idras play and for the most part the personality he brings to the scene. However claiming that he would be much less arrogant than mc is just silly. Sure I don't see idra performing ceremonies like mc but that's hardly the only way to express arrogance. When asked 'what do you think of this player?' idra responds what he truthfully thinks, hes not showboating all the time.. I'm not saying idra isn't BM I'm saying its not ironic calling MC arrogant coming from an Idra fan.... | ||
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DrivE
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Dararr
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On June 05 2011 10:16 napo wrote: How can you hate such a baller? :O Idra earned my respect too with that reaction. They HAVE to play each other at MLG again! That's not what baller means. | ||
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:38 Zeri wrote: When asked 'what do you think of this player?' idra responds what he truthfully thinks, hes not showboating all the time.. I'm not saying idra isn't BM I'm saying its not ironic calling MC arrogant coming from an Idra fan.... It doesn't really matter if it is what he truthfully thinks his replies are still arrogant. And I think saying you dislike someone because of his arrogance and then cheering for someone equally arrogant falls pretty nicely under irony. | ||
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Scith
Canada13 Posts
Go IdrA | ||
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WCH
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Zeri
United States773 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:48 Badboyrune wrote: It doesn't really matter if it is what he truthfully thinks his replies are still arrogant. And I think saying you dislike someone because of his arrogance and then cheering for someone equally arrogant falls pretty nicely under irony. If idra's responses must fall under the umbrella of arrogance, so be it, but even so, not all arrogance is the same. which was my whole point anyway. they are different. | ||
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Flameling
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Balthazar
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getSome[703]
United States753 Posts
I just think it's funny. MC bmed idra and idra bmed right back haha. Both gestures are commonly used | ||
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masterbreti
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so here is me hoping MC takes down Idra 2-0 | ||
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Ruscour
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On June 05 2011 11:57 Balthazar wrote: When IdrA and MC play each other...*puts on sunglasses*...it is not going to be pretty. They already did. IdrA wiped the floor with him. | ||
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Ballistixz
United States1269 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:26 Zeri wrote: We'll if hes loosening games then he deserves such BM... but in all seriousness, Idra usually wont say that out of a void. either you are ignoring the chat at the beginning of the game or there is a history between the players that you don't know about. But seriously those games were so loose.... uh he says that to random ladder players to. ESPECIALLY when he looses to a mid ranked master player.... he rages extra hard then. | ||
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Bkennedy
United States266 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:58 masterbreti wrote: usually I like to see a person like MC being taken down a peg. But in light of the person he bm'ed is Idra. I really want to see Idra taken down a peg, his imbalance whining and constant belittling of other players really ticks me off sometimes. so here is me hoping MC takes down Idra 2-0 Idra already beat him 2-0, mate. | ||
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Termit
Sweden3466 Posts
must hope for rematch tomorrow *^^ | ||
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Balthazar
United States277 Posts
On June 05 2011 12:00 Ruscour wrote: They already did. IdrA wiped the floor with him. I meant after the recent drama. The hype is going to be insane! | ||
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Chairman Ray
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Marcus420
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PhaseTwo
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Zeri
United States773 Posts
On June 05 2011 12:00 Ballistixz wrote: uh he says that to random ladder players to. ESPECIALLY when he looses to a mid ranked master player.... he rages extra hard then. I honestly can't get over how you can read a post trolling yourself for idiotically spelling lose incorrectly and then spell lose incorrectly in response. this is just silly! also I said usually. not by accident either, i intended it. | ||
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DJay_
United States103 Posts
On June 05 2011 12:03 Marcus420 wrote: MC should show some respect to others, especially when hes not in his home country. that thought never crossed my mind but you're right thats a pretty basic rule anyone should follow. | ||
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Hyren
United States817 Posts
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fush
Canada563 Posts
On June 05 2011 12:03 Marcus420 wrote: MC should show some respect to others, especially when hes not in his home country. you make it sound like he's committing a crime. what a joke. | ||
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Saraf
United States160 Posts
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coreydota
United States180 Posts
it's really funny that MC is so cocky towards idra especially after getting 2-0d in a convincing fashion - maybe he has something planned to return the favor | ||
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Slago
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FlamingTurd
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awwnuts07
United States621 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:05 PackofHighly wrote: I love it. It's like pro-wrestling style antics but with nerds! +1. This is why I love MC and Idra. They players are worth so much more to the scene than their winning records. | ||
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j3i
United States357 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:38 Veritassong wrote: Guys chill the fck out. MC has said in interviews over and over again that his cockiness and offensive gestures are just for show, to add some drama and excitement to esports. Idra the same, nice person in real life. these two dont really hate each other, its all on-screen drama. Everyone should read this. They both acknowledge each other's skill. They just want to make it fun for the crowd. (a bit one-sided of course but I think it's cuz IdrA doesn't have much experience at getting the crowd hyped) | ||
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JustQuitWarcraftIII
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Retsukage
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G_Wen
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TMStarcraft
Australia686 Posts
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TAMinator
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Flytothesky
United States591 Posts
What a showmanship. This is what we need in esports. A rivalry, tension between players, and drama. Makes this game soooo interesting. I don't know about you trolls out there, but I'm definitely enjoying this. | ||
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Taku
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theteam
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Flytothesky
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Horse...falcon
United States1851 Posts
it's on now I've never been more excited for anything in my entire life...they better meet up again | ||
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-Exalt-
United States972 Posts
On June 05 2011 12:39 aztecx wrote: I wanna see Idra smash MC so hard... He already did 2-0. MC has no right to BM idra after he got smashed.. just makes him look like an idiot. | ||
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Triscuit
United States722 Posts
On June 05 2011 12:41 EternaL_9 wrote: He already did 2-0. MC has no right to BM idra after he got smashed.. just makes him look like an idiot. Well in his eyes it wasn't a legitimate win because MC was in bad shape. EDIT: Note, I don't quite share the same view. | ||
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orn
Australia76 Posts
Idra #1 btw ofc. | ||
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
On June 05 2011 12:41 EternaL_9 wrote: He already did 2-0. MC has no right to BM idra after he got smashed.. just makes him look like an idiot. He looks like an idiot or like a confident baller...just depends on who you ask..lol. | ||
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tylermakesmusic
United States122 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:04 edc.initiative wrote: Pretty pathetic on MC's part since he got destroyed by IdrA. In this situation, I would say that IdrA's flip off is justified. Despite being a die-hard Protoss player, if I ever see IdrA go against MC again I'm cheering for IdrA. You probably hate puppies and laughter too. | ||
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
Lol the guy you're quoting acts like he wouldn't have rooted for Idra in the first place anyways....haha. | ||
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zZygote
Canada898 Posts
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
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-Exalt-
United States972 Posts
On June 05 2011 12:42 Triscuit wrote: Well in his eyes it wasn't a legitimate win because MC was in bad shape. EDIT: Note, I don't quite share the same view. Saying he was in bad shape is ridiculous.He won what, 4 games after his idra loss? he was playing near his best and thus lost because idra outplayed him. Getting outplayed and then BMing the person who outplayed you in front of the whole crowd is just idiotic. | ||
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Bub
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Flytothesky
United States591 Posts
Saying he was in bad shape is ridiculous.He won what, 4 games after his idra loss? he was playing near his best and thus lost because idra outplayed him. Getting outplayed and then BMing the person who outplayed you in front of the whole crowd is just idiotic. MC giving cut-throat to Idra meant if he ever gets the rematch he is going down. I don't think he really bmed him, well in sort of way he did but it was more like a crowd pleasing thing. Hope we get Idra on SotG to find out whether he was really offended by MC's action. | ||
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Warrice
United States565 Posts
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On June 05 2011 12:41 EternaL_9 wrote: He already did 2-0. MC has no right to BM idra after he got smashed.. just makes him look like an idiot. You realize Idra got destroyed last time? Let's see how well he will do in even conditions. | ||
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United States560 Posts
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
Builds hype. Rivalries and drama just add hype to the game which imo makes it much more exciting. I'm more willing to watch a match between Idra and MC, the two power houses who have a rivalry than Idra and MC, the foreigner and Korean. Agree with you 100% This kind of stuff is perfect for the game. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5245 Posts
On June 05 2011 12:58 psp219 wrote: I can't find Idra or his GF in the video... sitting on the floor, when MC high 5's people he goes past them a bit. The throat slashing gesture happens around :36 | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On June 05 2011 13:01 Duravi wrote: Agree with you 100% This kind of stuff is perfect for the game. I agree with you and him. this kind of stuff adds personality to the game. Personality can only help grow the games tension/excitement. Who else would KILL to see a Idra vs MC rematch? SSOOO many story-lines going on in that. Revenge PvZ Balance Has the meta game shifted to favor Z Will ZvP imbalance cries ever stop If MC was the best player in the world... and idra beat him... what does that mean for the gracken Will we see idra do a throatslashing movement in MC's face if he wins soooo much awsome capable in that final match... hope we get to see it. and i really think people are reading into it WAY more than they should... if you ever played a competitive sport u know that stuff like this happens ALL THE TIME and its not cause "omg he flipped off that guy... he must HATE HIM" or "omg he did a throat slash! THIS MEANS WAR!" lol MC was just pumped and feeding off of the crowd and Greg just waved it off...with 1 finger lol. I am sure these arent personal attacks or "bm" just part of being competitive. did u want to see MC stop and look at idra and shake his hand or something? No way be dramatic do the throat slash give the crowd somethign to roar at. <3'ed it. <3d it. <3d it. Hope to see more stuff like this at tournaments tbh.... as long as it doesnt evolve into crazy out of control fist fights/table smashing wwe style stuff lol | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
Edit, it took me this long to finally find it and figure out that you did link the right video. Wow. | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
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LeFroMaGe
United States628 Posts
On June 05 2011 13:01 Duravi wrote: Agree with you 100% This kind of stuff is perfect for the game. QFT... This is more of exactly what this game needs | ||
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United States157 Posts
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On June 05 2011 12:59 dunc wrote: You realize Idra got destroyed last time? Let's see how well he will do in even conditions. Of course MC would say "I wasn't in best condition when lost to idra, i was in good conditio nwhen i beat everyone else" Are you really going to believe that? He was in as good of a condition as he's going to be when he got 2-0d by idra, it was still a stupid move to do that BM to idra AFTER getting smashed by him and playing it off as "oh i was in bad condition" Either way Idra is gonna own MC when they meet again in the finals. | ||
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United States413 Posts
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Nicodemusher
United States188 Posts
On June 05 2011 12:49 taldarimAltar wrote: Hahah idra's girlfriend laughing It's also funny that she seems to miss the Idra flip-off completely because she's doubled over. Guys, chill out and recognize this trade-off for what it is -- amusing as hell. | ||
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Theoriginalrod
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Nethermind
New Zealand445 Posts
I love the way esports is developing to have such characters. It would be alot more sterile without them. | ||
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Ksyper
Bulgaria665 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:05 PackofHighly wrote: I love it. It's like pro-wrestling style antics but with nerds! LOL Go IdrA! | ||
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Likwid
United States20 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:04 lee365 wrote: Mc is such a boss Its nice to know that we think being an arrogant jackass is cool behavior. I applaud idra for acting relatively cool about it. This Korean really likes to act like a macho man lmao. Too bad you lost to him later MC. Grow up. | ||
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bellhop
United States165 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:01 Xanatoss wrote: God I hope MC gets smashed by Idra again. I really dislike his arrogant behavior. Lol, and IdrA is the king of manner? They both are arrogant, and that's what makes them fun to watch (ignoring the fact they are amazing at their respective races). | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
Still though, if they meet up again I hope Idra roflcopter stomps him like no one has ever been roflcopter stomped before | ||
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TheAngelofDeath
United States2033 Posts
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United States560 Posts
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furymonkey
New Zealand1587 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:38 Veritassong wrote: Guys chill the fck out. MC has said in interviews over and over again that his cockiness and offensive gestures are just for show, to add some drama and excitement to esports. Idra the same, nice person in real life. these two dont really hate each other, its all on-screen drama. Exactly this. It is very obvious that MC knows exactly how the entertainment industry works. By putting on some shows on top of his game skills, he is able to accumulate quite a bit of star power. There is no way you can deny his star power just by look at the crowd's reaction. He made the choice by gaving something back to the crowd, with some high fives and a little drama. :p We all know esport as a career is very brutal, but MC is smart enough to start paving the extra miles of road shall he fall. As shown that in the real world, sponsors are looking for players with huge fan base, it isn't totally about the skills. However MC still got quite a bit of achivements to earn before he get that status. I'm pretty sure I don't need to name the list of players that already past its prime time, but still living comfortably due to the fan base it has. Not to mention alot of players got to where it is by simply creating drama, Idra being one of them. You'd hear his name alot less if this wasn't true. | ||
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JoeSchmoe
Canada2058 Posts
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
On June 05 2011 13:22 Likwid wrote: Its nice to know that we think being an arrogant jackass is cool behavior. I applaud idra for acting relatively cool about it. This Korean really likes to act like a macho man lmao. Too bad you lost to him later MC. Grow up. LOL | ||
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Cow
Canada1104 Posts
On June 05 2011 13:09 Elean wrote: + Show Spoiler + found this on youtube, it's way easier to see what happened there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_GYkKPW6Fc Awesome addition, can clearly see MCs taunt in this vid, thank you! | ||
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Heavenly
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On June 05 2011 13:10 hunts wrote: Of course MC would say "I wasn't in best condition when lost to idra, i was in good conditio nwhen i beat everyone else" Are you really going to believe that? He was in as good of a condition as he's going to be when he got 2-0d by idra, it was still a stupid move to do that BM to idra AFTER getting smashed by him and playing it off as "oh i was in bad condition" Either way Idra is gonna own MC when they meet again in the finals. Lol what a joke. It's been confirmed by multiple people that the koreans suffered from huge jet lag. MC met IdrA recently at Dreamhack on completely equal conditions and just crushed him. IdrA was his first match of the day after huge jet lag and about 4 hours of sleep. Losira was almost passing out in his booth, MMA slept two hours inbetween his matches, and Tasteless had to be replaced with JP so he could take a nap in the middle of the casts. MC came later and had it worse than anyone. Ret and Tyler both played lackluster enough that it didn't matter. Call it an excuse all you want, it's verifiable truth. MC never makes excuses for his losses unless they are legitimate, he has always congratulated the other player and said that he will work hard to be better than before. I can't wait until they meet again and every little IdrA fanboy bites his tongue. People act like the player that is 7-1 against Minigun recently just randomly decided to flip a switch and become an unbeatable ZvP killing machine. No excuses anymore if MC loses (btw 2-0 Thorzain in Thorzain's best matchup, and Thorzain 2-0'd IdrA) since the worst of jet lag would have worn off. I hope they meet again in the finals and I will consider it a victory for IdrA if he takes one more game off MC. | ||
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Th0R
Canada359 Posts
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United States16 Posts
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United States84 Posts
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ForeverSleep
Canada920 Posts
On June 05 2011 13:30 furymonkey wrote: Exactly this. It is very obvious that MC knows exactly how the entertainment industry works. By putting on some shows on top of his game skills, he is able to accumulate quite a bit of star power. There is no way you can deny his star power just by look at the crowd's reaction. He made the choice by gaving something back to the crowd, with some high fives and a little drama. :p We all know esport as a career is very brutal, but MC is smart enough to start paving the extra miles of road shall he fall. As shown that in the real world, sponsors are looking for players with huge fan base, it isn't totally about the skills. However MC still got quite a bit of achivements to earn before he get that status. I'm pretty sure I don't need to name the list of players that already past its prime time, but still living comfortably due to the fan base it has. Not to mention alot of players got to where it is by simply creating drama, Idra being one of them. You'd hear his name alot less if this wasn't true. That is absolutely right. I mean, even here, the gesture looked like something kinda playful, more than anything, Anyway, people like to overthink the whole issue i guess | ||
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KDot2
United States1213 Posts
On June 05 2011 13:22 Likwid wrote: Its nice to know that we think being an arrogant jackass is cool behavior. I applaud idra for acting relatively cool about it. This Korean really likes to act like a macho man lmao. Too bad you lost to him later MC. Grow up. seriously ? there is actual BM and then there is this ... this was just MC having a little fun | ||
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Regulate140
Canada108 Posts
Don't read into it too much guys... I don't *really* think they actually hate each other, it's a show for the crowd. | ||
pathy
Taiwan619 Posts
On June 05 2011 13:10 hunts wrote: Of course MC would say "I wasn't in best condition when lost to idra, i was in good conditio nwhen i beat everyone else" Are you really going to believe that? He was in as good of a condition as he's going to be when he got 2-0d by idra, it was still a stupid move to do that BM to idra AFTER getting smashed by him and playing it off as "oh i was in bad condition" Either way Idra is gonna own MC when they meet again in the finals. and if mc wins? not so stupid now right? Your post reveals you to be nothing more than a biased fanboy | ||
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gotyilk
United States34 Posts
I went up to MC to get a picture and he's a very shy guy and reserved, believe it or not. Also Idra's been very good to his fans that come up to him, flashing his nice smile. It's just a show, so just enjoy it. These is so much respect among the player in person, you see all the teams hanging out together talking. I'm just so happy that EVERYONE is playing at a whole another level. If you can attend a future MLG, DO IT | ||
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Theoriginalrod
101 Posts
On June 05 2011 13:41 pathy wrote: and if mc wins? not so stupid now right? Your post reveals you to be nothing more than a biased fanboy Lol the fact that you care so much to post that makes you a fanboy too. Come on we all love SC/esports. | ||
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Indrium
United States2236 Posts
On June 05 2011 13:36 Guerrilla705 wrote: I dont think it matters, Idra and MC are both pretty cocky and arrogant, but thats because they are in sc2 and finally get to be pretty decent. Once people like jaedong and flash come over to sc2 idra and mc will be back to being in the mid tier as the BW pros crush everyone. I am so tired of people saying this about MC, NesTea, and all of the GSL winners. MC had a poor BW record because he got put into games before he was ready. He showed a ton of promise but didn't have his mechanics refined enough to really be put into professional games, so he lost horribly. It was a poor decision by the coaches, and MC probably would have had a fairly successful BW career. He probably wouldn't have been the next Bisu, but he would have been pretty good, probably MVP ish. People need to stop giving people less credit than they're due about BW. On topic: I have never been so excited for a rematch. This is going to be incredible. | ||
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Razvy
United States132 Posts
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Silfurstar
Switzerland263 Posts
Love it ! I'm so hoping for an Idra vs MC finals, after their encounter in the first game and then this. It would just be a perfect storyline for this MLG ! | ||
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Blixy213
United States360 Posts
On June 05 2011 13:26 -swordguy wrote: These things happened in BW all the time. Taunting in ceremonies is a part of competition. Its normally meant to be entertainment rather than BM. I think IdrA just really hates MC. It's entertaining for us that's for sure though! It makes any possible MC versus IdrA sets that much more intense. I just love how chill IdrA was when he flipped him off, such a baller | ||
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Indrium
United States2236 Posts
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DuneBug
United States668 Posts
hey idra sitting next to a lady think that's his gf? (i heard a rumor) | ||
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Protocon
United States255 Posts
MC calling Idra out was rather rude, but the middle finger is a bit much as a response and it would be better if Idra just stomps MC and let his game speak for him. | ||
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dc302
Australia576 Posts
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Happy Frog
Australia490 Posts
HYPE ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/h9Y1V.gif) IdrA needs to work on his counter ceremonies. The bird is a timeless classic, but it's time for him to step it up here. This situation called for a crotch chop at a bare minimum | ||
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GinDo
3327 Posts
Personally i find his PvZ very abusive wih his near perfect sentry use, and his PvT has really not been very tested fully. MMA owned him in team leagues, but that was BO1, and he won against Rain, but Rain is a pushover and I personally feel his play isn't top player material. His entrance to GSL finals was a fluke. PvP he's pretty strong. He's good don't get me wrong, but he's over-cocky and overhyped.To many people put him as the #1 best player. But really i feel its just the band wagon that comes when you win a GSL. I feel currently their is no best player, but alot of good ones. Personally i understand Idra though i don't support his actions.+ Show Spoiler + I still would have probably done the same | ||
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Wargizmo
Australia1237 Posts
On June 05 2011 14:12 Happy Frog wrote: So good. HYPE IdrA needs to work on his counter ceremonies. The bird is a timeless classic, but it's time for him to step it up here. This situation called for a crotch chop at a bare minimum Normally I don't cheer for Idra. But you said it, the bird IS a timeless classic... there's no substitute | ||
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corpsepose
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binary25
United States28 Posts
I'm an avid NBA and NFL watcher and every year the men in suits put even more outlandish rules and penalties for players celebrating, taunting, or just being BM in general. I HATE IT, and I'm not sure why some people are in a rush to "clean up" e-sports from a little harmless fun. I also think MC does this to not only play mind games, but to give himself a little bit of an edge. Michael Jordan was notorious for trash talking and starting shit with other players to try and get himself pumped up and give him an angry edge. | ||
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freeloader625
United States180 Posts
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tuho133
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On June 05 2011 14:13 GinDo wrote: I think idra just sees MC as an overhyped and over cocky player. Yeah he's good, and he won gsl twice. But really he's not that unbeatable as recent results show. Personally i find his PvZ very abusive wih his near perfect sentry use, and his PvT has really not been very tested fully. MMA owned him in team leagues, but that was BO1, and he won against Rain, but Rain is a pushover and I personally feel his play isn't top player material. His entrance to GSL finals was a fluke. PvP he's pretty strong. He's good don't get me wrong, but he's over-cocky and overhyped.To many people put him as the #1 best player. But really i feel its just the band wagon that comes when you win a GSL. I feel currently their is no best player, but alot of good ones. Personally i understand Idra though i don't support his actions.+ Show Spoiler + I still would have probably done the same I don't think we put him as #1 player on the world. But we put him as the best Protoss in the world. I think he's better than Nani a bit. | ||
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Pro]ChoSen-
United States318 Posts
I hope IdrA smashes him in a re match and then throat slashes towards him. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4494 Posts
On June 05 2011 13:53 Blixy213 wrote: I think IdrA just really hates MC. It's entertaining for us that's for sure though! It makes any possible MC versus IdrA sets that much more intense. I just love how chill IdrA was when he flipped him off, such a baller What the heck? That is the silliest comment I've seen in a while. He doesn't hate MC, it's a game man. He's just playing along with the competitive banter. Just because you flip someone off doesn't mean you have some grudge against the guy. Geeze, that's an overstatement if ever there was one. | ||
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Sinborn
United States275 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
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how2TL
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On June 05 2011 14:13 GinDo wrote: I think idra just sees MC as an overhyped and over cocky player. Yeah he's good, and he won gsl twice. But really he's not that unbeatable as recent results show. Personally i find his PvZ very abusive wih his near perfect sentry use, and his PvT has really not been very tested fully. MMA owned him in team leagues, but that was BO1, and he won against Rain, but Rain is a pushover and I personally feel his play isn't top player material. His entrance to GSL finals was a fluke. PvP he's pretty strong. He's good don't get me wrong, but he's over-cocky and overhyped.To many people put him as the #1 best player. But really i feel its just the band wagon that comes when you win a GSL. I feel currently their is no best player, but alot of good ones. Personally i understand Idra though i don't support his actions.+ Show Spoiler + I still would have probably done the same According to someone named Idra that's not true, considering he thinks that he's the best toss in the world and everything. Everyone needs to chill (GET OUT) the fuck out and enjoy the ceremony. | ||
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GenoZStriker
United States2914 Posts
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ESPRITsc
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On June 05 2011 14:35 rysecake wrote: Funny how people are making a big deal about this. Idra doesn't hate mc, the 2 are friends. Idk how people could take something like this so seriously, it's just for fun. there's no grudge, no drama, no nothing. Yet people are trying to create anti fan clubs and stir shit up. Pretty sure that's a complete lie. | ||
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dormer
United States1314 Posts
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
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Slardar
Canada7593 Posts
The throat slash is all in good fun, the flip-off is just childish in my opinion. IdrA should have retorted with the White-Ra point and double thumbs down. THAT would have been epic. | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
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lxanderl
United States629 Posts
all in good fun :D | ||
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
On June 05 2011 09:54 Blardy wrote: I had to watch it several times to even see it. I dont get what the big deal is. You don't know much about their personalities then. If you did, you'd find it amusing | ||
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Le BucheRON
Canada619 Posts
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MiX
United States109 Posts
On June 05 2011 13:52 Indrium wrote: I am so tired of people saying this about MC, NesTea, and all of the GSL winners. MC had a poor BW record because he got put into games before he was ready. He showed a ton of promise but didn't have his mechanics refined enough to really be put into professional games, so he lost horribly. It was a poor decision by the coaches, and MC probably would have had a fairly successful BW career. He probably wouldn't have been the next Bisu, but he would have been pretty good, probably MVP ish. People need to stop giving people less credit than they're due about BW. On topic: I have never been so excited for a rematch. This is going to be incredible. I am tired of it too because all they are doing is regurgitating what was already said in that article. They should try thinking for themselves for a change. All the GSL champs were good BW pros. Fruitdealer was a very talented up and comer for estro when he had to quit because his dad got sick. At the time a lot of people thought he had potential to be a successful BW player. Nestea was on of the better 2v2 players for KT Rolster. Obviously he's not going to be a stellar 1v1 player when his job was to be good at 2v2. And if he was just some noob he wouldn't be the team captain and zerg coach for KT Rolster for years. MVP was a successful BW pro in his short career. Anyway, back on topic. I think MC's antics only add to the fun of watching starcraft. Do we want a bunch of robots who show no emotion because a few nerds on a forum complain about "manner"? No. The thing that makes these players interesting is their personalities. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
God, as much as I love the scene (and I don't mind BM) the fact is that people are racting to this as if they were freaking 12 years old. | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
Oh sorry, forgot Idra doesn't have friends, oh wait.. Quit making drama out of this. It's so annoying when idra fanboys immediately use these situations to glorify his "badassness" or to create bitter rivalries. Everything is just for fun, there's no reason to think they hate each other. So stop making it seem like that. | ||
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mpf189
332 Posts
On June 05 2011 14:44 lxanderl wrote: haha you can see idra's gf being a good sport clapping for mc, then laughing when he points at idra all in good fun :D Girls watching would find the situation so hilarious, a bunch of nerds talking trash lol | ||
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CEPEHDREI
Germany1521 Posts
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Two
United States95 Posts
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On June 05 2011 14:53 rysecake wrote: Oh sorry, forgot Idra doesn't have friends, oh wait.. Quit making drama out of this. It's so annoying when idra fanboys immediately use these situations to glorify his "badassness" or to create bitter rivalries. Everything is just for fun, there's no reason to think they hate each other. So stop making it seem like that. WTF? What a strange post to call someone an IdrA fanboy over... it doesn't even make sense to call someone a fanboy for that... | ||
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fraktoasters
United States617 Posts
On June 05 2011 14:33 FataLe wrote: What the heck? That is the silliest comment I've seen in a while. He doesn't hate MC, it's a game man. He's just playing along with the competitive banter. Just because you flip someone off doesn't mean you have some grudge against the guy. Geeze, that's an overstatement if ever there was one. Yeah but we are talking about Idra........ | ||
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
Amateur. MC is Boss. | ||
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steamrice
435 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gdqdY.jpg) Don't take these seriously from MC, it's all in good fun. | ||
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Cuiu
Germany410 Posts
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SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On June 05 2011 14:53 rysecake wrote: Oh sorry, forgot Idra doesn't have friends, oh wait.. Quit making drama out of this. It's so annoying when idra fanboys immediately use these situations to glorify his "badassness" or to create bitter rivalries. Everything is just for fun, there's no reason to think they hate each other. So stop making it seem like that. Haha to MC it's fun, to Idra it certainly isn't. That's why i love him. | ||
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mpf189
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On June 05 2011 15:02 Chicane wrote: WTF? What a strange post to call someone an IdrA fanboy over... it doesn't even make sense to call someone a fanboy for that... Makes perfect sense. I'm in no way anti idra, I love his play and am a huge fan, I just don't like his fanboys (wait..I'm a fan too though) who take every opportunity to glorify him in whatever aspect they can (particularly his personality). | ||
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Caliber
United States598 Posts
ps: i love both mc and idra | ||
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Nizzy
United States839 Posts
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tobi9999
United States1966 Posts
Same w/ idra although he takes it a bit more seriously he still is just playing the game because he is passionate about it. maybe it's inappropriate behavior but most of the criticisms are due to people hating Idra/MC and not because they actually find it offensive.  To all the people who thought it was great, I agree | ||
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Le BucheRON
Canada619 Posts
On June 05 2011 15:17 Caliber wrote: i agree, idra needs to find a new ceremony. flipping huk off was cool, but he needs some more spice... more originality ps: i love both mc and idra Mayhaps a bare-assed moon? Thaaaat'd get TL talking! | ||
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kindle139
United States128 Posts
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MechKing
United States3004 Posts
On June 05 2011 15:14 mpf189 wrote: MC looked like such a nerd when he did his strut back to the booth I just found it to be hilarious <3 That's the "haters gonna hate" walk xD | ||
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United States366 Posts
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FatkiddsLag
United States413 Posts
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escobari
Finland192 Posts
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
On June 05 2011 15:03 Goibon wrote: Best Idra could do was a middle finger? my thought exactly lol. he did the same against HuK | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On June 05 2011 15:48 FatkiddsLag wrote: more importantly. who was that hot chick sitting next to IdrA? His girlfriend. | ||
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Fdragon
United States96 Posts
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Japan5041 Posts
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rfoster
United States1005 Posts
On June 05 2011 15:50 ondik wrote: my thought exactly lol. he did the same against HuK he doesnt give a shit. He`s said all the time that he doesnt like the corny acts the koreans do | ||
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
IdrA's retaliatory bird flipping is obviously not serious, otherwise you'd see some form of anger or contempt on his face. He's just doing it cuz MC called him out, my bet is that this was going through IdrA's mind 'oh shit, how do i answer? ah man, MC so annoying, fuck it, i'll just flip him off, tried and true" | ||
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SoJu.WeRRa
Korea (South)820 Posts
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Effen
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blizzind
United States642 Posts
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Bulgaria65 Posts
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Singapore4126 Posts
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United States777 Posts
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Germany6146 Posts
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statik
116 Posts
5. No excessive taunting or celebration by Coaches or Players. Excessive taunting or celebration includes, but is not limited to, post-Match taunting or celebration directed at or referencing an opposing Player(s) and/or Coach. Post-Match interactions between opposing Players and Coaches must be limited to acts of sportsmanship. That'd be funny if they gave MC a technical foul. His actions kind of warrant it but I know no one cares and definitely MLG does not want to piss the Korean community off by giving MC a t.f. Another rule that's funny is that you can get a game penalty where you aren't allowed to build a certain unit decided by the opposing player besides workers, zlot, ling, rine, ovies, and queens. | ||
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genius_man16
United States749 Posts
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On June 05 2011 16:27 Phanekim wrote: who like doesn't have a rivalry with idra. it seems like everyone ultimately does. if u were elite level. If you play anything other than zerg, IdrA automatically considers you a rival. | ||
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lightrise
United States1355 Posts
On June 05 2011 16:29 statik wrote: MLG Technical Foul Rules 5. No excessive taunting or celebration by Coaches or Players. Excessive taunting or celebration includes, but is not limited to, post-Match taunting or celebration directed at or referencing an opposing Player(s) and/or Coach. Post-Match interactions between opposing Players and Coaches must be limited to acts of sportsmanship. That'd be funny if they gave MC a technical foul. His actions kind of warrant it but I know no one cares and definitely MLG does not want to piss the Korean community off by giving MC a t.f. Another rule that's funny is that you can get a game penalty where you aren't allowed to build a certain unit decided by the opposing player besides workers, zlot, ling, rine, ovies, and queens. They have almost never done this. There was one halo player who is a huge douchebag that got two fouls and had to sit out 1 entire minute of a game which was a shitload of time. They ended up coming back to win which was disgusting. MLG almost never institutes fouls unless its actually going to upset their audience. | ||
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Maliris
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
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Retgery
Canada1229 Posts
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forgottendreams
United States1771 Posts
On June 05 2011 11:44 mango_destroyer wrote: lol so hype. If it werent for personalities like Idra and MC ...it would be so boring. You and me are thinking on the same wavelength ^^ | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
That would've been a better response. | ||
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Warzilla
Czech Republic311 Posts
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ESPRITsc
200 Posts
On June 05 2011 15:16 rysecake wrote: Makes perfect sense. I'm in no way anti idra, I love his play and am a huge fan, I just don't like his fanboys (wait..I'm a fan too though) who take every opportunity to glorify him in whatever aspect they can (particularly his personality). There's something wrong with you. Please get it fixed. You say the two are friends, I call you out on it and you say I'm a fanboy? Make sense next time, k? P.S. "No nothing" = double negative. So did you really mean there's something? :O | ||
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wordd
Australia190 Posts
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
I love that guy, he is making tourneys so much more fun to watch! | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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Flavor
Canada8 Posts
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Drteeth
Great Britain415 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:01 Xanatoss wrote: God I hope MC gets smashed by Idra again. I really dislike his arrogant behavior. You're trolling right? | ||
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SC.Shifty
Canada135 Posts
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
On June 05 2011 16:29 statik wrote: MLG Technical Foul Rules 5. No excessive taunting or celebration by Coaches or Players. Excessive taunting or celebration includes, but is not limited to, post-Match taunting or celebration directed at or referencing an opposing Player(s) and/or Coach. Post-Match interactions between opposing Players and Coaches must be limited to acts of sportsmanship. That'd be funny if they gave MC a technical foul. His actions kind of warrant it but I know no one cares and definitely MLG does not want to piss the Korean community off by giving MC a t.f. Another rule that's funny is that you can get a game penalty where you aren't allowed to build a certain unit decided by the opposing player besides workers, zlot, ling, rine, ovies, and queens. Yeah, I was just reading about that weird rule. I think it would be hilarious if some gamer pushed their limits just to see them enforce that for once. I think it would funny if someone got this penalty and still won the match. | ||
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MMello
279 Posts
Also I don't think ive herd a bunch of people ever chanting any star2 player's name... that was quite epic.. SC2 Is better than other sports because drama is included | ||
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Nolot
United Kingdom271 Posts
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Jimbooo
203 Posts
. He injects personality into EVERYTHING. | ||
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Dudevico
Sweden53 Posts
http://wellplayed.org/forum/1/thread/3805977/show | ||
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Coeus1
Finland160 Posts
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NeonGenesis
Norway260 Posts
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
On June 05 2011 16:47 Klive5ive wrote: IdrA should have made 2-0 with his hands. That would've been a better response. Haha, yes. This would have been amazing. | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
A brush of his shoulder, overdramatised yawn, thumbs down or anything beside just the gesture version of "fuck you". | ||
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Trowa127
United Kingdom1230 Posts
Don't see how anyone can't see the funny side of all this, even Idra smiles. | ||
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brassmonkey1211
United States68 Posts
On June 05 2011 17:43 Dudevico wrote: Wellplayed.org has a video up from another perspective. You can clearly see MC's "celebration" however IdrA's reaction is left outside the shot. http://wellplayed.org/forum/1/thread/3805977/show ![[image loading]](http://www.blogcdn.com/www.urlesque.com/media/2010/12/backpain-1292835351.jpg) MC GONNA BE SLASHIN THROATS TOMORROW BABY | ||
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Okiesmokie
Canada379 Posts
On June 05 2011 18:30 karpo wrote: There's a huge difference between tauting someone for some fake drama and just giving someone the finger. Idra could have done many different things that would have been awesome but giving the finger feels like the most juvenile thing to do. A brush of his shoulder, overdramatised yawn, thumbs down or anything beside just the gesture version of "fuck you". Really? Giving the finger is worse than making a gesture towards killing someone? | ||
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rareh
Portugal298 Posts
Doing the throat slash sign is extremely offensive and can be interpreted as a threat to the physical integrity of who it was directed too. Besides MC is not the same he was, i think he is extremely overrated at the moment. If you look at the last 2 GSLs, Ro32 May and Ro64 Super tournament. Idra fighting! MC failing ! | ||
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NeonGenesis
Norway260 Posts
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Ramble
Sweden877 Posts
On June 05 2011 17:43 Dudevico wrote: Wellplayed.org has a video up from another perspective. You can clearly see MC's "celebration" however IdrA's reaction is left outside the shot. http://wellplayed.org/forum/1/thread/3805977/show I just noticed that Mr. Chae is pointing out IdrA for MC. That's too good. | ||
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Clickety
Portugal196 Posts
On June 05 2011 18:35 Okiesmokie wrote: Really? Giving the finger is worse than making a gesture towards killing someone? Giving someone the finger stands for "fuck", which as we all know, is a terrible word and you have to wash your mouth with soap if you ever say it. | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
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NeonGenesis
Norway260 Posts
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
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Nolot
United Kingdom271 Posts
On June 05 2011 19:03 mdb wrote: loool, thats what happens when from bw nobodies you become international superstars and thousand of people shout your name. I cant see how this is good for the game. its just causes stupid drama oh men starcraft2 is out get over it, don't cry tears because scbw isn't that populair anymore, move on | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On June 05 2011 18:54 Clickety wrote: Giving someone the finger stands for "fuck", which as we all know, is a terrible word and you have to wash your mouth with soap if you ever say it. Sorry kid this isnt christian camp this is the real world. And LOL Idras the fucking best. | ||
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Ohdamn
Germany765 Posts
idras GF clapping for MC | ||
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ilmman
364 Posts
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Dakkas
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
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Nocteo
Belgium799 Posts
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Kryptonite
United States155 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:23 absalom86 wrote: Idra flipping Mc the bird... Idra staying true to his super bm nature. but its perfectly ok for MC to point directly at idra and throat slash him. | ||
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PeZuY
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Lucidity
South Africa603 Posts
Haye: You're going down brosef. Klitschko: Fuck you! Yeah. That's not how it works. Not even in boxing. In most sports Idra would have received some kind of punishment for his behaviour, while MC's would be recognised as showmanship. Giving the finger seems to be idra's standard response to everything. How boring. You would've thought he learned new tricks after Huk. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
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legaton
France1763 Posts
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Kollapse
United States125 Posts
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IPS.Mardow.
Germany713 Posts
Thats why I hope he gets destroyed by IdrA. Im officially an anti MC fan. I should call him Flounder though, that name fits him better | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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Dardanian
United Kingdom16 Posts
They should just do a face-off if they don't officially meet. | ||
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jmertelj
Slovenia84 Posts
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SpiffD
Denmark1264 Posts
On June 05 2011 18:38 rareh wrote: I hope Idra wins against MC again, MC is the biggest asshole in SC2. Doing the throat slash sign is extremely offensive and can be interpreted as a threat to the physical integrity of who it was directed too. Besides MC is not the same he was, i think he is extremely overrated at the moment. If you look at the last 2 GSLs, Ro32 May and Ro64 Super tournament. Idra fighting! MC failing ! Wat? So should we interpret Idra's gesture literally? | ||
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blackodd
Sweden451 Posts
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Essentia
1150 Posts
On June 05 2011 19:46 Kollapse wrote: All this time I thought the 'IdrA's girlfriend' posts were just some strange meme here on the forums caused by SotG or something, but...it's true? yes that girl sitting next to idra is his gf. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On June 05 2011 19:49 eYeball wrote: MC should perform some ceremony after beating IdrA Oh he will, the problem is winning with the extended series in effect. | ||
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JanBanan
Norway29 Posts
Have a good day, people! | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On June 05 2011 19:55 JanBanan wrote: Why does even people like MC? Can anyone tell me that? I hope Idra crushes him so hard that he shits his pants. MC shows no respect and get no respect from me. And I wish koreans had to play through the open bracket. Every time I see korean play I switch over the the other stream. Damn right boring to watch. Have a good day, people! People love MC because he is the Boss Toss. MC shows 100x more respect than Idra, MC gave Idra a 'gg wp' after their first set, I'm pretty sure Idra would have left without a gg had the Hatchery died the second set. The second part of your post makes it obvious you just hate Koreans... | ||
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Lucidity
South Africa603 Posts
On June 05 2011 19:52 SpiffD wrote: Wat? So should we interpret Idra's gesture literally? Quite clearly Idra suggested that he wanted to have sex with MC. Yes we live in the land of literals. MC can receive jail time for making a threat on Idra's life .... Sometimes Idra fanbois' logic scares me. | ||
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zeru
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Hypemeup
Sweden2783 Posts
On June 05 2011 19:49 eYeball wrote: MC should perform some ceremony after beating IdrA Shame MC cant touch IdrA gamewise now though. Idra should've had a better comeback, flipping him off when MC had already turned his back wasn't very good. Still kinda funny. Yep, MC was brave enough to stand his pose for a whole ½ a second before running back to the booth! Damn IdrA react faster. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On June 05 2011 20:00 Hypemeup wrote: Shame MC cant touch IdrA gamewise now though. Except their series was suuuuper close... | ||
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Hypemeup
Sweden2783 Posts
Yeah, and if they play again and IdrA has a 2 game lead? MC does not stand a chance. | ||
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zeru
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kratos-23
303 Posts
On June 05 2011 19:55 JanBanan wrote: Why does even people like MC? Can anyone tell me that? I hope Idra crushes him so hard that he shits his pants. MC shows no respect and get no respect from me. And I wish koreans had to play through the open bracket. Every time I see korean play I switch over the the other stream. Damn right boring to watch. Have a good day, people! july has gone through the open bracket and has not lost a single map. and why do like idra? he shows no respect either, atleast mc ceremonys are damn funny. | ||
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epik151
312 Posts
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Swatch
Germany114 Posts
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Hypemeup
Sweden2783 Posts
On June 05 2011 20:05 epik151 wrote: no actually mc will 4-0 idra. such nubs. Yeah and Artosis is the best SC2 player ever. | ||
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B.I.G.
3251 Posts
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xza
Singapore1600 Posts
Really guys? its just a throat slash with a flip off. It's not like they went to the other booth and started smashing the other guys keyboards or something. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On June 05 2011 20:04 kratos-23 wrote: july has gone through the open bracket and has not lost a single map. and why do like idra? he shows no respect either, atleast mc ceremonys are damn funny. He's lost maps, what are you talking about? | ||
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Hypemeup
Sweden2783 Posts
On June 05 2011 20:10 xza wrote: lol its all in the name of fun. I can't believe some people are actually sensitive about it. Really guys? its just a throat slash with a flip off. It's not like they went to the other booth and started smashing the other guys keyboards or something. Oh no, not the fa- Keyboard! Smashing MC's keyboard rather then MC's face is preferable considering idra has been working out. | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
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MBH
Ireland796 Posts
Absolutely love it, MC will be what Superstar Billy Graham, was for pro wrestling. | ||
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
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Jusciax
Lithuania588 Posts
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kochujang
Germany1226 Posts
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FenneK
France1231 Posts
sick him idra! | ||
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Xingke
United States78 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Actually he didn't. Not in the open bracket. He 2-0'd everyone he played (except Catz because that match didn't happen). He didn't lose a game until pool play after he stomped his way through the open bracket. | ||
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philly5man
United Kingdom356 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
It's childish and unnecessary. When July, a living legend, can show sportsmanship, respect and humility in his interview comments after smashing Kiwi, it's just sad to see these kids (in comparison) that don't have a tenth of his accomplishments trying to look badass. It's about dignity, class and self-respect (or lack thereof, in case of MC, Idra, Major and the rest of the "badass" crew). This is why you won't see somebody like Boxer or most true Starcraft legends behaving like that. | ||
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ShadezOwnage
184 Posts
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!?! | ||
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dirtyBeat
Spain32 Posts
relax and enjoy the show. | ||
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
On June 05 2011 20:46 dirtyBeat wrote: lol @ so many kids in this thread !! relax and enjoy the show. Indeed. And aspire to be like him | ||
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Jandos
Czech Republic928 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
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Alver
United States177 Posts
i personally like both because their colorful characters that make the pro scene more interesting. the main difference is that mc does ceremonies when he wins but doesnt bm anyone and idra doesnt do ceremonies he just straight up talks shit. | ||
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
On June 05 2011 20:41 Talin wrote: Meh, it's becoming tiresome to reply to these threads, but it's so irritating that they always get this much attention that I just can't help it. It's childish and unnecessary. When July, a living legend, can show sportsmanship, respect and humility in his interview comments after smashing Kiwi, it's just sad to see these kids (in comparison) that don't have a tenth of his accomplishments trying to look badass. It's about dignity, class and self-respect (or lack thereof, in case of MC, Idra, Major and the rest of the "badass" crew). This is why you won't see somebody like Boxer or most true Starcraft legends behaving like that. They're not trying to look badass, they're trying to entertain the fans and succeeding. | ||
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rareh
Portugal298 Posts
MC just jetlag. Idra had no problems. So the guy that should improve the most on sunday is thorzain. MC should improve a little bit. Idra should play similar. IMO the winners will be either thorzain, naniwa or MMA. | ||
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asmo.0
Norway318 Posts
He doesnt really do anything disrespectful... People can argue that f ex Incontrol or Huk is much worse for talking ingame. | ||
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Buffy
Sweden665 Posts
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ithildin
United States9 Posts
Let's show some class. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On June 05 2011 21:01 RPR_Tempest wrote: They're not trying to look badass, they're trying to entertain the fans and succeeding. They're trying to look badass to entertain the crowd then, it makes no difference to my point whatsoever. It's still degrading for a progamer and competitor to act like an entertainer, especially out of the game, especially when it involves being obnoxious and disrespectful (regardless of whether the sentiment is real or not). | ||
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HoldenR
Netherlands256 Posts
On June 05 2011 21:17 Talin wrote: They're trying to look badass to entertain the crowd then, it makes no difference to my point whatsoever. It's still degrading for a progamer and competitor to act like an entertainer, especially out of the game, especially when it involves being obnoxious and disrespectful (regardless of whether the sentiment is real or not). Who do you think you are to dictate what is or is not good for the sport, or how the pros should or should not behave? A large majority of the people who enjoy the entire e-sports scene, enjoyed this little debacle. Why on earth do you think you'd get to take that away from them? E-sports success' depends on the people watching it, and if you'd like to alienate a large majority of the fans, then I'd like to congratulate you on killing the entire scene. In the name of "manner", you'd ruin fun. | ||
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Steamroller
Finland756 Posts
On June 05 2011 21:17 Talin wrote: They're trying to look badass to entertain the crowd then, it makes no difference to my point whatsoever. It's still degrading for a progamer and competitor to act like an entertainer, especially out of the game, especially when it involves being obnoxious and disrespectful (regardless of whether the sentiment is real or not). I found MC's "boss" acting to be really awkward. Only in e-sports can nerdy looking guy like MC do it and get the crowd cheers. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On June 05 2011 21:25 HoldenR wrote: Who do you think you are to dictate what is or is not good for the sport, or how the pros should or should not behave? A large majority of the people who enjoy the entire e-sports scene, enjoyed this little debacle. Why on earth do you think you'd get to take that away from them? E-sports success' depends on the people watching it, and if you'd like to alienate a large majority of the fans, then I'd like to congratulate you on killing the entire scene. In the name of "manner", you'd ruin fun. Or...maybe this is just how these guys naturally act? | ||
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SpiffD
Denmark1264 Posts
On June 05 2011 21:16 ithildin wrote: There is always a lot of talk about people wanting esports to be more like a mainstream sport, and mainstream sports don't put up with this kind of behavior. 5 minutes of google returns results from the NHL, NFL, NBA, and even rugby. Let's show some class. Those cases are absurd and are great examples of politically correctness gone very wrong. I doubt you could find an example outside of any former colony of England. The rest of Europe, for example, aren't as soft skinned and wouldn't take offence to such an act. | ||
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ManaO
Italy185 Posts
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
To me just the fact that MC can do a throat cut move and IdrA can respond to it by giving him the finger makes Esports better and much more fun to watch than these traditional sports. | ||
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
More publicity is always a good thing, and look at all the publicity this little "incident" got. | ||
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HaeHei
United Kingdom162 Posts
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MurMiLLo
United States260 Posts
On June 05 2011 21:16 ithildin wrote: There is always a lot of talk about people wanting esports to be more like a mainstream sport, and mainstream sports don't put up with this kind of behavior. 5 minutes of google returns results from the NHL, NFL, NBA, and even rugby. Let's show some class. i dont give a shit if i get banned or whatever but i have 2 words for u. FUCK OFF User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
It helps break down the barrier between the players and he spectators because they show some humane side of themselves. | ||
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poorbeggarman
139 Posts
On June 05 2011 21:16 ithildin wrote: There is always a lot of talk about people wanting esports to be more like a mainstream sport, and mainstream sports don't put up with this kind of behavior. 5 minutes of google returns results from the NHL, NFL, NBA, and even rugby. Let's show some class. Yeah, like all those intentional fouls, bickering etc on professional football. Real classy. | ||
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Mackin
Ireland181 Posts
I am also in the boat that wants to see MC vs IdrA once again, would be really nice. | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
MC said it himself in the interview with Hot_bid, he sees themselves as wrestlers, he loves adding some hype, controversy, rivalry and charisma to the scene. Its all to entertain us (the crowd). Thats why people either hate or love him. Its exactly the same with IdrA, i think its nice he sometimes spices things up with his BM and interviews. I get the idea people think he really wants to decapitate him lol. Its a bit similar to last MLG with Huk and IdrA and than some weeks later just hang out at dreamhack. | ||
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Aristodemus
England1989 Posts
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Iamyournoob
Germany595 Posts
I mean come on, it is just a huge show he puts on every time and you know what? It is damn right he does so. Even though I don't feel much love for Idra he never fails to amuse me - be it through his gaming skills or his BM. But besides: I have never seen MC leave a game without gging or something like that. Furthermore I believe that his overconfident acting towards his opponents is also meant to intimidate them. What did Jose Mourinho, coach of Real Madrid, say about psychology in sports? "The game starts already at the first press conference." That being said, you can be a nice guy and stick to the game or you can do stuff out of the game to confuse/intimidate or make your opponent get angry. Thanks to Idra and MC for such a great spectacle. Hell, gotta love MCs interaction with the crowd, he is definetely a fan favourite for a reason! | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Greatness
United States450 Posts
I was entertained by their antics. Quite amusing, and everyone wins. MLG gets a lot more viewers streaming Idra, and Idra's sponsors get more airtime. | ||
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
On June 05 2011 21:17 Talin wrote: They're trying to look badass to entertain the crowd then, it makes no difference to my point whatsoever. It's still degrading for a progamer and competitor to act like an entertainer, especially out of the game, especially when it involves being obnoxious and disrespectful (regardless of whether the sentiment is real or not). ^ Everyone else. Do not be this guy. This is the definition of hurting the scene | ||
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
People complaining should just chill out for now. It's not like this is a physical sport; if you threaten someone in football or rugby, it's entirely in the realm of possibility that you can actually make those threats a reality, by injuring your opponent on purpose. That's probably not going to happen in esports. So I see no reason why we should worry about it. | ||
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SenorChang
Australia4729 Posts
On June 05 2011 21:54 Mailing wrote: ^ Everyone else. Do not be this guy. This is the definition of hurting the scene Eh, saying he's hurting the scene is a bit far, people are entitled to their opinions and not everyone is going to agree on the same thing simply because of how they generally think people SHOULD act opposed to how they actually do. MC and IdrA both act in their own ways and people either love it or hate it, personally I find some of their antics entertaining and other parts not so much. At the end of the day they're both great players and while they have success and the spotlight remains on them they'll continue to do things like that and get reactions from the fans. | ||
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pStar
996 Posts
Its rivalry, happens in all sports. Get over it. | ||
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zeru
8156 Posts
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BlueSpace
Germany2182 Posts
On June 05 2011 22:06 zeru wrote: People need to stop saying "hurting the scene" and "bad for ESPORTS!!". It's getting silly. There were already 100 pages of silliness yesterday... The future of Esports is at stake! Idra flipped someone off! | ||
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Sakarabu
United Kingdom132 Posts
On June 05 2011 21:54 Mailing wrote: ^ Everyone else. Do not be this guy. This is the definition of hurting the scene I don't think MC did anything disrespectful at all, he just made it clear that he was going to take out Idra if they faced each other again and it was playing up to the crowd. You could see this kind of thing all the time in BW from your "idols". Idras response could however be construed as disrespectful, but I guess it is just the same thing in typical western/Idra style and nothing was meant by it. I should add: Anyone who can't see the fun in it and is actually bothered by this should really get a grip of their lifes. | ||
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Elasticity
3420 Posts
On June 05 2011 21:42 MurMiLLo wrote: i dont give a shit if i get banned or whatever but i have 2 words for u. FUCK OFF User was temp banned for this post. Martyr *clap clap* back to the topic, MC didnt mean it really, or it was just his gesture to say: Imma pwn you. That's all. And we know Idra already, no need to comment on that | ||
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RaLakedaimon
United States1564 Posts
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Terant
Malta60 Posts
Mlg becoming like the gsl of the west, which is a pretty good thing | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On June 05 2011 22:06 zeru wrote: People need to stop saying "hurting the scene" and "bad for ESPORTS!!". It's getting silly. dont say that, its bad for esports | ||
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Silkk
United States41 Posts
I can't even describe how exciting MLG has been. This is really the start of something great for e-sports and America. People chanting MC like hes a rockstar and him and IdrA going at it. CANT WAIT FOR TODAY!!! | ||
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
<3 MC | ||
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rareh
Portugal298 Posts
On June 05 2011 22:06 pStar wrote: I lol at the idiots complaining about this. I lol at the idiots complaining about the complaints people are having about this. Oh and if people watch SC2 for slashing throats and middle fingers then... i feel sorry for them. They should probably watch WWE or something... This is one of the many reasons SC2 scene, has a long way to go, if it wants to reach BW. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Reapafied
65 Posts
On June 05 2011 21:16 ithildin wrote: There is always a lot of talk about people wanting esports to be more like a mainstream sport, and mainstream sports don't put up with this kind of behavior. 5 minutes of google returns results from the NHL, NFL, NBA, and even rugby. Let's show some class. You're right. Lets be more like them and have whole teams come off the bench and fight! | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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sereniity
Sweden1159 Posts
On June 05 2011 22:06 zeru wrote: People need to stop saying "hurting the scene" and "bad for ESPORTS!!". It's getting silly. Haha this... I read to the part "don't be this guy" and I agreed, then I read "he's hurting the scene" and just went facepalm... please just stop with that crap already, LET E-SPORT DEVELOPMENT HAPPEN NATURALLY | ||
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
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zYwi3c
Poland1811 Posts
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elitesniper420
Canada135 Posts
On June 05 2011 21:52 Greatness wrote: They are progamers, and entertainers. I was entertained by their antics. Quite amusing, and everyone wins. MLG gets a lot more viewers streaming Idra, and Idra's sponsors get more airtime. Exactly. Hey and guess what you watch pro gamers for? To be entertained! surprise! Oh and to anyone retards saying this doesn't happen in other sports: | ||
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Hollis
United States505 Posts
MC doesn't get that he's nothing but a gross little nerd enjoying his fourteenth minute. It's hilarious to watch. Idra's at least got some damn perspective. I will say I love the BM/drama, though. Way more interesting than a couple of gentlemanly chaps sitting down for a spot of tea and a friendly game of chess, what ho! User was warned for this post | ||
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PBC
167 Posts
On June 05 2011 23:06 Hollis wrote: Here's my worthless opinion. MC doesn't get that he's nothing but a gross little nerd enjoying his fourteenth minute. It's hilarious to watch. Idra's at least got some damn perspective. I will say I love the BM/drama, though. Way more interesting than a couple of gentlemanly chaps sitting down for a spot of tea and a friendly game of chess, what ho! hahaa. MC the winner of multiple GSL's is a "gross little nerd" while idra who hasnt really done anything on the international stage isnt? right righhhht | ||
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AnalThermometer
Vatican City State334 Posts
On June 05 2011 22:40 rareh wrote: This is one of the many reasons SC2 scene, has a long way to go, if it wants to reach BW. These Starcraft newcomers would actually burst a blood vessel if Firebathero did some over the top ceremony in front of idra. | ||
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h0neyBadger
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
On June 05 2011 23:29 zul wrote: honestly MCs gesture may be aggressive - but it was totally ok, since it ment nothing but "war is on" IdrA showing the Finger only shows bad manners and nothing more. He could have played it way more sovereign (act cool and ignore it or just return the gesture). Anyways the drama isn`t that big as some may see it. What? Throat slashing is just as BM/disrespectful as giving the finger. Still, Idra doesn't have to worry about anyone who wears a plastic jacket. The drama is fun though, adds intensity to the match. | ||
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JKira
Canada1002 Posts
On June 05 2011 23:06 Hollis wrote: Here's my worthless opinion. MC doesn't get that he's nothing but a gross little nerd enjoying his fourteenth minute. It's hilarious to watch. Idra's at least got some damn perspective. I will say I love the BM/drama, though. Way more interesting than a couple of gentlemanly chaps sitting down for a spot of tea and a friendly game of chess, what ho! How exactly is IdrA's perspective from this video different than MC's? | ||
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
On June 05 2011 23:32 BronzeKnee wrote: What? Throat slashing is just as BM/disrespectful as giving the finger. Still, Idra doesn't have to worry about anyone who wears a plastic jacket. The drama is fun though, adds intensity to the match. That's all it is, they're just putting on a show to entertain the crowd and build hype and what not. | ||
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Khull
United States40 Posts
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On June 05 2011 23:29 zul wrote: honestly MCs gesture may be aggressive - but it was totally ok, since it ment nothing but "war is on" IdrA showing the Finger only shows bad manners and nothing more. He could have played it way more sovereign (act cool and ignore it or just return the gesture). Anyways the drama isn`t that big as some may see it. Nah, everyone wants boring players. What's more fun than Korean interviews? Fuck yeah, I want more of those. "Uhm, my opponent is very good but I trained hard I wish him good luck ok" Idra sure is hurting the growth of e-sports, right? | ||
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iRk
Sweden83 Posts
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Prfx
51 Posts
"Idra my friend but he troll man but i like Idra ^^ he good man" | ||
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
now all we need is for Naniwa and IdrA to start BMing each other, and the IdrA vs. P hatred will be absolute | ||
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iSometric
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svi
405 Posts
meanwhile idra's own girlfriend shows her sense of humor by laughing and clapping during mc's performance. you guys seem more feminine than idra's girlfriend. | ||
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Iamyournoob
Germany595 Posts
On June 06 2011 00:11 awesomoecalypse wrote: Is there any notable Protoss that IdrA doesn't have some kind of rivalry with? Tyler, HuK, MC... now all we need is for Naniwa and IdrA to start BMing each other, and the IdrA vs. P hatred will be absolute Might happen when Naniwa kicks Idra into the loser's bracket while advancing to the MLG finals | ||
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RaFeStaR
United States161 Posts
On June 06 2011 00:14 svi wrote: i think it's pathetic how idra fans are shedding tears about it. meanwhile idra's own girlfriend shows her sense of humor by laughing and clapping during mc's performance. you guys seem more feminine than idra's girlfriend. Agreed. They're both outstanding players and incredibly entertaining. I think it's really awesome that MC stuck his neck out and provided many a laugh :D | ||
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Castrophy
United States232 Posts
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Ghad
Norway2551 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:01 Xanatoss wrote: God I hope MC gets smashed by Idra again. I really dislike his arrogant behavior. i will cry with glee if it happens. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On June 05 2011 23:06 Hollis wrote: Here's my worthless opinion. MC doesn't get that he's nothing but a gross little nerd enjoying his fourteenth minute. It's hilarious to watch. Idra's at least got some damn perspective. I will say I love the BM/drama, though. Way more interesting than a couple of gentlemanly chaps sitting down for a spot of tea and a friendly game of chess, what ho! Wow have some respect. You're posting on a starcraft board, and you're trash talking one of the most accomplished protoss players yet. Just because he was a flounder in BW doesn't mean that his accomplishments are any less impressive in SC2. God, people these days. | ||
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GinDo
3327 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/68NAm.gif) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sP5tN.gif) | ||
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latan
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:01 Xanatoss wrote: God I hope MC gets smashed by Idra again. I really dislike his arrogant behavior. This. Me too. | ||
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Abductedonut
United States324 Posts
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Zalos
Sweden12 Posts
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
oh idra | ||
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leecH
Germany385 Posts
i remember in the first match of MLG there was this guy in the crowd standing up and screaming USA - USA - USA... i was like wtf this WCG!?! and idra definitly is this good because he did not lived in the USA for the past few years lol.. so thats an example of passion taking over your brain making you look dumb. | ||
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mmdmmd
722 Posts
On June 06 2011 01:36 GinDo wrote: Lol at everyone dissing Idra. I'm guessing you new guys never heard of a little someone named Firebathero. + Show Spoiler + You can't compare FBH to these players. FBH has a charm to his personality. MC is just insecure and Idra simply has a short temper. | ||
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ScaSully
United States488 Posts
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
we now know IdrA's greatest rival. Its not Morrow, or Tyler, or even HuK. Its not MC, despite their gestures at each other. No, IdrA's greatest rival is...IdrA I watch a TON of sports, and a TON of SC2, and I have never seen a player consistently beat themselves the way IdrA does. Not wanting to draw out games is one thing, somewhat early gg timing is something else... and then there's GGing when you've won the fucking game. Not once, but multiple times. What. The. Fuck. Are there e-sports psychologists? Because there should be. Greg Fields' defeatist outlook is holding him back from being all he could be. Did you hear the cheering for IdrA at that MLG crowd? People LOVE this guy. They are BEGGING him to step up and realize his potential. For all that people talk up Nestea and Losira, IdrA has the mechanics and skill to go toe to toe with them. The ONLY thing that is preventing him from being the best Zerg in the world, is IdrA. Blizzard can patch out imbalances. They can't patch out mental weakness. IdrA needs to stop worrying about what other people are doing, and take a good look at himself and his own mental outlook. If you think like a loser, you will lose, and IdrA right now has the worst goddamn loser mentality I've ever seen. | ||
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furymonkey
New Zealand1587 Posts
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thezergk
United States492 Posts
On June 06 2011 03:03 awesomoecalypse wrote: [MLG Day3 spoilers] we now know IdrA's greatest rival. Its not Morrow, or Tyler, or even HuK. Its not MC, despite their gestures at each other. No, IdrA's greatest rival is...IdrA I watch a TON of sports, and a TON of SC2, and I have never seen a player consistently beat themselves the way IdrA does. Not wanting to draw out games is one thing, somewhat early gg timing is something else... and then there's GGing when you've won the fucking game. Not once, but multiple times. What. The. Fuck. Are there e-sports psychologists? Because there should be. Greg Fields' defeatist outlook is holding him back from being all he could be. Did you hear the cheering for IdrA at that MLG crowd? People LOVE this guy. They are BEGGING him to step up and realize his potential. For all that people talk up Nestea and Losira, IdrA has the mechanics and skill to go toe to toe with them. The ONLY thing that is preventing him from being the best Zerg in the world, is IdrA. Blizzard can patch out imbalances. They can't patch out mental weakness. IdrA needs to stop worrying about what other people are doing, and take a good look at himself and his own mental outlook. If you think like a loser, you will lose, and IdrA right now has the worst goddamn loser mentality I've ever seen. I 1000% agree with everything here. I'm really sad whenever I see IdrA kill himself. Everyone wants him to perform well . . . | ||
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dukem
Norway189 Posts
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SnuggleZhenya
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StarBrift
Sweden1761 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
He can now go back to Korea where Huk will owe him a beer and some pizza. | ||
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darlhet
Italy548 Posts
when idra pubblicy insults huk he's just cool, when MC does it its bad sportsmanship..."ok" | ||
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Xanatoss
Germany539 Posts
Well, sadly MC showed again that his behavior is justified. Seems like I have to keep studying his Replays. | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
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NeWeNiyaLord
Norway2474 Posts
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Bkennedy
United States266 Posts
On June 06 2011 06:56 ThatGuy89 wrote: someone needs to tell mc he looks like a complete tool when he does all these taunts and stuff. Means nothing coming from a nerdy looking kid like that. As idra id just laugh it off Then + Show Spoiler + You'd get 4-0'd | ||
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
On June 06 2011 06:51 Mastermind wrote: I couldnt see the throat slash or the flip off in the video. why are so many people failing to see idra or what happens. Once MC high fives the crowd, he has his back to the camera and slits his throat to idra. As MC walks away idra gives him the middle finger | ||
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Bombtrack
Canada11 Posts
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furymonkey
New Zealand1587 Posts
On June 06 2011 06:56 ThatGuy89 wrote: someone needs to tell mc he looks like a complete tool when he does all these taunts and stuff. Means nothing coming from a nerdy looking kid like that. As idra id just laugh it off What are you suggesting? He needs to look like a serial killer or sicko for his taunts to be believable? Perhaps you have no idea that these throat slash action aren't meant to be real? :p | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
Any threat from a guy wearing those clothes would make me giggle like a girl. Ya, clothes are extremely important when assessing the potential danger of a threat. -.- | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
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Sakarabu
United Kingdom132 Posts
On June 06 2011 06:56 ThatGuy89 wrote: someone needs to tell mc he looks like a complete tool when he does all these taunts and stuff. Means nothing coming from a nerdy looking kid like that. As idra id just laugh it off You sound like a complete tool. The guy made more money in the last 2 months than you and your entire family most likely made in the last 2 years, I don't think some child on a message board calling him a "nerdy looking kid" bothers him either. I also think it entitles him to have a little fun and act cocky now and again (he doesn't do it every game). Lighten up and stop being such a killjoy, it is entertaining as hell and obviously not meant to be taken seriously. | ||
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
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SilverLeagueElite
United States626 Posts
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Slago
Canada726 Posts
On June 06 2011 06:56 ThatGuy89 wrote: someone needs to tell mc he looks like a complete tool when he does all these taunts and stuff. Means nothing coming from a nerdy looking kid like that. As idra id just laugh it off someone needs to tell you hes a badass, ya i could work him in a scrap, but thats not the point these rivalries and competition makes it interesting, MC is badass man, maybe not tough but he's pimping korean broads and making skrills, nothing but respect for him, he lives a comfortable life doing something he loves and he has lots of woman to love............ thats badass | ||
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jexxto
United Kingdom284 Posts
On June 06 2011 07:23 Slago wrote: someone needs to tell you hes a badass, ya i could work him in a scrap, but thats not the point these rivalries and competition makes it interesting, MC is badass man, maybe not tough but he's pimping korean broads and making skrills, nothing but respect for him, he lives a comfortable life doing something he loves and he has lots of woman to love............ thats badass MC don't need to be tough, he's won enough tourneys to be in a position where can pay guys to be tough for him while gesturing throat slashes at his enemies. True boss. MC ftw! | ||
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KiNPiN
United States32 Posts
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Blasphemi
United Kingdom980 Posts
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Kolvacs
Canada1203 Posts
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
On June 06 2011 07:44 Blasphemi wrote: Huk is most likely laughing his ass off right now. Probably practicing hard to Polt doesn't steamroll him like polt has MC twice. | ||
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Zaxon
Belgium209 Posts
EPIC burn :D | ||
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Zaxon
Belgium209 Posts
On June 06 2011 01:36 GinDo wrote: Lol at everyone dissing Idra. I'm guessing you new guys never heard of a little someone named Firebathero. + Show Spoiler + nope didnt watch the sc1 scene but thats an awsome taunt :D | ||
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Nyor
Germany35 Posts
On June 06 2011 06:51 Mastermind wrote: I couldnt see the throat slash or the flip off in the video. You can see MCs gesture better in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_GYkKPW6Fc&feature=relmfu You can't see IdrA in that Video though. | ||
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Yamulo
United States2096 Posts
On June 06 2011 07:47 Mailing wrote: Probably practicing hard to Polt doesn't steamroll him like polt has MC twice. to be fair mc was playing really risky with the nexus first and 1 gate fe, which as huk stated is countered by a 2 rax with like 3-5 scvs pulled. | ||
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x6Paramore
Canada130 Posts
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Mawi
Sweden4365 Posts
man that was awesome! | ||
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x6Paramore
Canada130 Posts
I would never say that idra is equal to MC just b/c he took 2 lucky games off him at the beginning of the tournament. MC is worlds ahead of idra both in mental fortitude and mechanical skill | ||
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Spacedude
Denmark161 Posts
I'd hate to have e-sport cut of its d*ck and turned mainstream. I'd be genderless and dull. Cheers | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
XD | ||
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
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Ballistixz
United States1269 Posts
MC: umadbro? Idra: why would i be mad? zerg is not suppose to beat protoss. MC: cool GG damn, i bet idra was raging his ass off in his head. MC really got inside idras head with the mind games. kinda felt sorry for idra for once tho cuz MC stomped him pretty bad then added insult to injury lmao. | ||
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jcc
United States472 Posts
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Kouyou
Canada10 Posts
Koreans own white dudes! They took first, second and third position! :O | ||
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
On June 06 2011 15:22 Milkis wrote: Message from MC to his fans at the fanclub: 안녕하세요 팬 여러분들 장민철입니다 이번에 미국와서 MLG대회 하게 되었는데 재밌는 경기도 많이하고 많은 팬분들과 이렇게 즐거운 추억만들어서 좋구요 기회가 된다면 다음에도 미국에와서 재밌는 경기 하고싶네요 또 이드라선수랑 재밌는 스토리도 만들어가는거 같아서 재밌고 실제로는 서로 이야기도 자주하고 그렇게 사이가 나쁘지않아서 이렇게 더 도발할수 있는거 같아요 이제 곧 한국갔다가 중국 가는데 기가바이트에서는 꼭 우승할수있도록 하겠습니다 Translation: To all my fans, Hello! I'm MC. I was able to come to America and participate in the MLG and got to play many entertaining games. And it's also great that I was able to make such fond memories with many fans. If the opportunity arises again I hope to come to america next time too to play more entertaining games. And it was also really fun because it looks like I'm creating a fun storyline with Idra, In reality we talk to each other often and our relationship isn't that bad, so that's why I'm able make provoking statements like that. And now I'll go to Korea soon, and then to China, and I'll do my best to win at Gigabyte. | ||
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
Basically, I feel that MC's gesture was really harmless, but IdrA's was genuinely offensive. | ||
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
On June 07 2011 14:38 crocodile wrote: I feel like IdrA responded inappropriately. MC has stated in the past that his ceremonies are merely part of a persona he uses to get more fans and make the SC2 scene more interesting. Basically, I feel that MC's gesture was really harmless, but IdrA's was genuinely offensive. Yeah it's like wrestling, no one uses the finger. They thumbs down, flex, shake their head, shake their finger or '\_('_')_/' | ||
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arQ
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teko
Canada1197 Posts
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On June 07 2011 04:56 QTIP. wrote: Just posting this here to let you guys know the blood isn't bad On June 06 2011 15:22 Milkis wrote: Message from MC to his fans at the fanclub: 안녕하세요 팬 여러분들 장민철입니다 이번에 미국와서 MLG대회 하게 되었는데 재밌는 경기도 많이하고 많은 팬분들과 이렇게 즐거운 추억만들어서 좋구요 기회가 된다면 다음에도 미국에와서 재밌는 경기 하고싶네요 또 이드라선수랑 재밌는 스토리도 만들어가는거 같아서 재밌고 실제로는 서로 이야기도 자주하고 그렇게 사이가 나쁘지않아서 이렇게 더 도발할수 있는거 같아요 이제 곧 한국갔다가 중국 가는데 기가바이트에서는 꼭 우승할수있도록 하겠습니다 Translation: To all my fans, Hello! I'm MC. I was able to come to America and participate in the MLG and got to play many entertaining games. And it's also great that I was able to make such fond memories with many fans. If the opportunity arises again I hope to come to america next time too to play more entertaining games. And it was also really fun because it looks like I'm creating a fun storyline with Idra, In reality we talk to each other often and our relationship isn't that bad, so that's why I'm able make provoking statements like that. And now I'll go to Korea soon, and then to China, and I'll do my best to win at Gigabyte. It's all part of showmanship. People need to stop getting offended. I know Idra fanboys are hopeless, but c'mon. MMA's Kamehameha and MC throat slash. Made for a great event! :D I know in some real sports some people frown on that showboating. Especially the NFL doesn't allow touchdown dances anymore... I think. Let's not get lame like the NFL. | ||
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IIIOmegaIII
Sweden319 Posts
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redux46
Canada92 Posts
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pyro19
6575 Posts
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4of8
Germany256 Posts
On June 07 2011 04:50 Kouyou wrote: There is only one thign to say....and Moon already said it after he won the the IEM tournament: Koreans own white dudes! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnis_Pju82w&feature=player_detailpage They took first, second and third position! :O Ace won the IEM Moon got 2nd. | ||
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Darkn3ss
United States717 Posts
But whatever... I bet mc's girlfriend doesn't look as good as IdrA's xD Oh yeah, see you fuckers in Anaheim?!?! | ||
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
On June 05 2011 10:01 Xanatoss wrote: God I hope MC gets smashed by Idra again. I really dislike his arrogant behavior. yeah.. ok. like he did at MLG, yeah? | ||
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Silfurstar
Switzerland263 Posts
On June 07 2011 14:42 Alabasern wrote: Yeah it's like wrestling, no one uses the finger. They thumbs down, flex, shake their head, shake their finger or '\_('_')_/' They don't use it on mainstream tv because of the pg rating. I think I have yet to go or participate to a live show where nobody gets flipped off. It's cheap for sure, but it's still a classic. I think the throatslash gesture isn't very creative either. MMA's kameha was way funnier in my opinion ! | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
I love you MC <3 | ||
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