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Faure
Profile Joined April 2010
13 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 00:34:39
June 20 2011 00:34 GMT
#1201
On June 15 2011 09:21 sagefreke wrote:
Am I the only person who sees the Swarmling as being supply ineffective?

Going off the OP, it is 3 lings for 50 minerals and 2 supply. Meaning at max supply you can have up to 300 lings.

Speedlings is 2 lings for 50 minerals and 1 supply. Meaning at max supply you can have up to 400 lings.

I love the Raptor upgrade though. Definitely good against kiting units.

One advantage is that you can have the 300 earlier then the 400, I suppose. Since they create 3 instead of 2, with 100 larvae spend you're at 300, while 400 would take twice as long (200 larvae)
Assumption is the mother of all failures.
voltaic
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1071 Posts
June 25 2011 10:50 GMT
#1202
Singleplayer question:

are behemoths and leviathans the same?
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 08:00:02
June 27 2011 07:58 GMT
#1203
The way they talk about how it is oh so hard to add more units to the multiplayer game is laughable. If they remove anything, I won't buy this expansion or give 2 shits about SC2 anymore. Most of SC2 was based off BW, a better designed game. They basically used BW as the template for SC2 which is like 90% of the game. It's clear these developers don't actually know how to develop new and interesting content for multiplayer. Actually whining to us that they got the balance perfect now and don't want to ruin it. -_-

It's sickening to hear that coming from Blizzard reps. The old Blizzard would've been like... yeah it might imbalance the game... but we'll make it work. Heck... the actual amount of FUNCTIONING units in WOL is poor. It's clear they have balanced pegged for only 3-4 units max and just made everything useless. Easier to balance the game, right? My confidence in Blizzard just dwindles by the year...

Really? The overseer is not cool? Of course not. I thought it was there because overlords are not detectors by default anymore? Did they forget why they put in the overseer in the first place?

Q: Blizzard time is faster than real time, Do you have any plans to fix this?

A: From a display perspective, there's been some components that make it difficult, such as APM. There is one thing that we want to do, which is make it more clear what real time vs display time is, and how they interact. The score screen is based on mission time, and the game clock is another thing, and it could be broken depending on what we do. And actually when you play custom you can actually adjust it, and it is an odd thing and is something that we're looking into. It's one of those backlog things.


And why would would someone waste our time with a question like this? It's been gone over a thousand times why it's different. Hint: the game is played on faster.

Same with the LAN question. Why do these community QA's seem more community QQ?

It's a lot like WoW QA's of Blizzcons past. People travel 1000s of miles to ask that one burning question to the dev panel that might provide some interesting insight... but NO, they ask a QQ question. "Do you plan on removing colossus?" "Why are durids getting owned in arena?"
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 10:17:16
June 27 2011 09:06 GMT
#1204
On June 15 2011 09:21 sagefreke wrote:
Am I the only person who sees the Swarmling as being supply ineffective?

Going off the OP, it is 3 lings for 50 minerals and 2 supply. Meaning at max supply you can have up to 300 lings.

Speedlings is 2 lings for 50 minerals and 1 supply. Meaning at max supply you can have up to 400 lings.

I love the Raptor upgrade though. Definitely good against kiting units.

Zerglings are 0.5 supply. I would assume it's 2 supply for 3 swarmlings because 3x zerglings = 1.5 supply. Hence, I would assume 6x swarmlings would be 3 supply, not 4.


On June 27 2011 16:58 Ownos wrote:
The way they talk about how it is oh so hard to add more units to the multiplayer game is laughable. If they remove anything, I won't buy this expansion or give 2 shits about SC2 anymore. Most of SC2 was based off BW, a better designed game. They basically used BW as the template for SC2 which is like 90% of the game. It's clear these developers don't actually know how to develop......[snip]

Bye then. You won't be missed. What a ridiculous rant.
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
July 07 2011 16:44 GMT
#1205
According to this article (http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/07/07/diablo-3-and-starcraft-2-heart-of-the-swarm-playable-at-gamescom-2011/), a playable version of HoTs will be shown off next month!!

GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
Hashmeister
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany238 Posts
July 07 2011 18:18 GMT
#1206
aweseome!!! thanks for this!
bit.ly/hashmeister
Me1234
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany219 Posts
July 07 2011 18:24 GMT
#1207
confirmed by this news: http://eu.blizzard.com/de-de/news/index.html?d=2011-7

sadly in german and there is no english news about it yet.
Uhm?
cheeseheadlogic
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States322 Posts
July 07 2011 19:17 GMT
#1208
Oh yay....more focus on zerg.
Good one blizzard, instead of nerfing them, you make them the focus.
epik
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
July 07 2011 19:22 GMT
#1209
On July 08 2011 04:17 cheeseheadco wrote:
Oh yay....more focus on zerg.
Good one blizzard, instead of nerfing them, you make them the focus.

Zerg themed expansion focuses on zerg, in SINGLEPLAYER

Palm, meet face
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
Omegalisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States337 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-07 19:26:17
July 07 2011 19:23 GMT
#1210
On July 08 2011 03:24 Me1234 wrote:
confirmed by this news: http://eu.blizzard.com/de-de/news/index.html?d=2011-7

sadly in german and there is no english news about it yet.


That's because Gamescom is in Germany, so I don't know if there will be english news about it.

Edit: Well, nevermind.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 07 2011 19:23 GMT
#1211
On July 08 2011 04:17 cheeseheadco wrote:
Oh yay....more focus on zerg.
Good one blizzard, instead of nerfing them, you make them the focus.

Plz do not bring balance whine into this thread, focused for single player doesnt mean shit for multiplayer anyway.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
JeanBob
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada295 Posts
July 07 2011 19:41 GMT
#1212
On June 20 2011 09:34 Faure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 09:21 sagefreke wrote:
Am I the only person who sees the Swarmling as being supply ineffective?

Going off the OP, it is 3 lings for 50 minerals and 2 supply. Meaning at max supply you can have up to 300 lings.

Speedlings is 2 lings for 50 minerals and 1 supply. Meaning at max supply you can have up to 400 lings.

I love the Raptor upgrade though. Definitely good against kiting units.

One advantage is that you can have the 300 earlier then the 400, I suppose. Since they create 3 instead of 2, with 100 larvae spend you're at 300, while 400 would take twice as long (200 larvae)


Swarmlings ain't like 1 and a half food for 3?
"Teach the ones below you something you have learnt and learn from the ones above you." -Sonata Arctica
Quochobao
Profile Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
July 07 2011 20:09 GMT
#1213
Kerrigan really needs to be more sexy...
Best or nothing.
sourbiscuits
Profile Joined May 2010
18 Posts
July 29 2011 03:43 GMT
#1214
ok, so the most asked and least answered question for me i; Will there be changes in the multiplayer?
Like some new unit or so.. It feels like that would be a very bad idea for the pro-scene since it would make games less fun to watch for a while.

Im only a spectator nowadays (lost interest of playing after a while) but games are getting really good in WoL.

New units in multiplayer would make ENOURMUS changes but still a part of me would like to see new awesome units.. =(

I would like to hear what ze pro gamers feel about changes in multiplayer.

please redirect me to a thread where this is discussed, cant find it and 60 pages of talking about HotS singleplayer dont apeal to me.

derp out
It was not by MY hands that Iam once again given flesh, I was called by HYUUUUMANS who wish to pay ME tribute.
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
July 29 2011 03:48 GMT
#1215
On July 08 2011 05:09 Quochobao wrote:
Kerrigan really needs to be more sexy...

Theres too much of that nonsense in every other game that features a female character.

On July 29 2011 12:43 sourbiscuits wrote:
ok, so the most asked and least answered question for me i; Will there be changes in the multiplayer?
Like some new unit or so.. It feels like that would be a very bad idea for the pro-scene since it would make games less fun to watch for a while.

Im only a spectator nowadays (lost interest of playing after a while) but games are getting really good in WoL.

New units in multiplayer would make ENOURMUS changes but still a part of me would like to see new awesome units.. =(

I would like to hear what ze pro gamers feel about changes in multiplayer.

please redirect me to a thread where this is discussed, cant find it and 60 pages of talking about HotS singleplayer dont apeal to me.

derp out


There will be units moved in and out of Multiplayer, but info hasn't been released as of yet.
HelloSon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
July 29 2011 03:50 GMT
#1216
On July 29 2011 12:43 sourbiscuits wrote:
ok, so the most asked and least answered question for me i; Will there be changes in the multiplayer?
Like some new unit or so.. It feels like that would be a very bad idea for the pro-scene since it would make games less fun to watch for a while.

Im only a spectator nowadays (lost interest of playing after a while) but games are getting really good in WoL.

New units in multiplayer would make ENOURMUS changes but still a part of me would like to see new awesome units.. =(

I would like to hear what ze pro gamers feel about changes in multiplayer.

please redirect me to a thread where this is discussed, cant find it and 60 pages of talking about HotS singleplayer dont apeal to me.

derp out

i can't believe the thread was bumped for this
yo
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 03:56:24
July 29 2011 03:55 GMT
#1217
On July 08 2011 04:17 IINcheezhead wrote:
Oh yay....more focus on zerg.
Good one blizzard, instead of nerfing them, you make them the focus.

This is the type of argument, stringing two related but separate topics together, that I find so prevalent in debates. In debates of greater and more global importance, it might seem intelligible, but here, it is so obviously fallacious. That certain human beings are capable of these mindsets saddens me, but that sorrow makes me chuckle as well.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 04:09:07
July 29 2011 04:06 GMT
#1218
On July 29 2011 12:50 HelloSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 12:43 sourbiscuits wrote:
ok, so the most asked and least answered question for me i; Will there be changes in the multiplayer?
Like some new unit or so.. It feels like that would be a very bad idea for the pro-scene since it would make games less fun to watch for a while.

Im only a spectator nowadays (lost interest of playing after a while) but games are getting really good in WoL.

New units in multiplayer would make ENOURMUS changes but still a part of me would like to see new awesome units.. =(

I would like to hear what ze pro gamers feel about changes in multiplayer.

please redirect me to a thread where this is discussed, cant find it and 60 pages of talking about HotS singleplayer dont apeal to me.

derp out

i can't believe the thread was bumped for this


Now play nice, maybe he doesn't understand the rules around here

Mr sourbiscuits, you asked where you could find threads that discuss possible zerg changes in HOTS. There is a section specifically for these threads.

I am sure you will your answer there.

Edit: or alternatively you can always go here
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Crying
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria778 Posts
August 08 2011 23:33 GMT
#1219
If they really make updates to the graphics it will be so bad,200v200 b attles will be 5fps
They better optimize the game better for ATI because its horrible atm
Determination~ Hard Work Surpass NATURAL GENIUS!
ZeroTheHero1
Profile Joined September 2011
United States9 Posts
September 22 2011 21:25 GMT
#1220
Thanks so much for posting this.
I'm really looking forward into playing some Zerg.
Hopefully the game will come out by next year, I'm getting too excited and checking the release date every week. lol
There's always room for improvement
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