how many times do huk and cruncher have to prove the haters wrong until they will be recognized for there skill? we clearlly arent going to see eye to eye on this. i must say im a bit embarassed for you that you are making excuses (lag) and trying to say TSL doesnt count and just because you are unhappy with the results. im sure whitera or mvp could take a few games off of cruncher but thats not to say hes not in the same league.

Rofl

Cruncher is a joke, and HuK isn't much better. People are saying that lag affected the results, not because they were unhappy with the results, but because there was in fact an issue with lag. It's hard to be *too* serious with results when you know that one player is handicapped. It doesn't necessarily mean that the foreigners who did beat koreans can never compete with them, but simply that the results don't mean as much.

It's usually better to observe and comment on particular player's play across a wide range of games rather than dig up a couple good tournament wins and say that therefore they must be top level. Example - instead of saying MVP is good because he won 2 GSL's, I would rather say he is good because of his many diverse opening builds, his strong decision making in the mid to late game, and finally his ability to multitask very well.

TheBJ

Bulgaria906 Posts

May 19 2011 03:16 GMT

#589

Mhm my goal for the future is

1. Sell my estate
2. Bet on bomber
3. Get BILLIONS of Internet dollars
4. Inject them in e-sports
5. Profit!

On a more serious note i cant see bomber or losira being outmatched.

Rarak

Australia631 Posts

May 19 2011 03:26 GMT

#590

Its laughable people say Cruncher is doing well because he is protoss.

Check the GSL supertournament. 29 terrans 19 zerg and 16 protoss... This shows its actually harder to be good with Protoss, atleast than terran, and on par with Zerg.

nufcrulz

Singapore934 Posts

May 19 2011 03:48 GMT

#591

On May 19 2011 12:16 TheBJ wrote:
Mhm my goal for the future is

1. Sell my estate
2. Bet on bomber
3. Get BILLIONS of Internet dollars
4. Inject them in e-sports
5. Profit!

On a more serious note i cant see bomber or losira being outmatched.

im going with idra and ret, you can have your bomber...

dNa

Germany591 Posts

May 19 2011 03:50 GMT

#592

REALLY looking forward to this event, great casters, great players, awesome matchups, damn i'd like to see every match of that weekend ! great setup @ MLG , thank you *bows*

Clog

United States950 Posts

May 19 2011 04:08 GMT

#593

On May 19 2011 12:16 TheBJ wrote:
On a more serious note i cant see bomber or losira being outmatched.

Yeah I agree, although Bomber's group is considerably harder. I wouldn't be surprised to see him drop games to IdrA or SelecT. But I'd be surprised if LosirA dropped a game...

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

May 19 2011 05:09 GMT

#594

Predictions


Group A
Naniwa   4-0
Slush    3-1
Moon     2-2
Drewbie  1-3
Gretorp  0-4

Group B
Kiwikaki  4-0
MMA       3-1
Sjow      1-3
Sheth     1-3
Moonan    1-3


Group C
Idra    4-0
Select  2-2* 
Ret     2-2
Bomber  2-2
Tyler   0-4



Group D
Losira    4-0
Incontrol 3-1
Haypro    2-2
TLO       1-3
Machine   0-4

Invoker

Belgium686 Posts

May 19 2011 05:36 GMT

#595

LOL, IdrA will dominate the group C. Maybe he might lose to Bomber. Other than that, it is easy.

Docmedical

Libya75 Posts

May 19 2011 06:37 GMT

#596

The number of players of a certain race in the GSL. Does not imply that the protoss is underpowered nor does it imply that terran is overpowered. There are many more factors than simple race representation in a single tournament. Please choose data that logically supports the point you are going to make.

FXOpen

Australia1844 Posts

May 19 2011 07:16 GMT

#597

On May 18 2011 19:45 FuRong wrote:

Show nested quote +

You should read the interview with Lee Chen. The whole point of the exchange is based on mutual respect between the GSL and MLG. Gom gives MLG players Code A/S spots and MLG gives Koreans spots in the seeded pools. If you want the Koreans to have to qualify through the open bracket then it would be the same as sending the MLG winners to go and qualify through Code B (which noone would actually do...consider that even when offered Code A spots, a lot of players have said they wouldn't bother taking the offer).

Forcing the invited players to qualify would defeat the entire purpose of the exchange. The way they've organised it is to give the invited players the respect they deserve and give them a seed. This exchange is about promoting international competition, and what is good for ESPORTS is obviously not necessarily good for average to middling American pros who now have to qualify through the open bracket. Unsurprisingly, most of the whining about the new format seems to be coming from this group of players =/

Arguments about the structure of the MLG format in general are fair game, but I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that seeding the Koreans into the pools is a bad idea.

The point that I was trying to make was that there are people of similar calibre in the open brackets, not getting a free lunch. And many players around the world just as capable/highly skilled whom are not going because there is no free lunch.

I think that the entire format needs to change in order to make way for 'invited' players. Because the excessively large open bracket is murder, no one should have to play 30 bo3 games in a tournament. (yes I know im exaggerating, but just making a point.)

ThatGuyDoMo

Australia516 Posts

May 19 2011 07:44 GMT

#598

Jesus Christ, Pool C holy crap LOL

and good luck to Geoff! I really hope you can win MLG or get a placing, i love you so much :-D

...even though i hate protoss and your silly collosus!

Cloud9157

United States2968 Posts

May 19 2011 08:29 GMT

#599

Naniwa/KiwiKaki/Idra/Losira would be a sic group of winners.

Too bad Thorzain is going to storm through the open bracket and mess up whatever pool they drop him in.

Krogan

Sweden375 Posts

May 19 2011 09:00 GMT

#600

On May 18 2011 11:40 CAPSLOCKED wrote:
Looks like nani wont be dropping any maps again!

Yeah that was pretty much my first impression as well.

All Pool C matches will feel like a bunch of semi finals matches. I think Tyler might surprise a lot people and look at his strongest since bw.

This could be TLO's tournament I believe, anyone that has been watching his stream must realize how sick he is playing when he stays focused. Losira or TLO takes that group I believe, Incontrol is casting and doing other things to much and TLO in his new gamer house (and a fully recovered TLO from his injury) is looking scary, but then there is of course Losira :p.

So hyped for this tournament.....going to be amazing (right Sundance).