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MLG Columbus Pools Announced - Page 28

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TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
May 18 2011 21:01 GMT
#541
O.O Holy crap!! Take a look at group C!! Man I can't wait!!
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
May 18 2011 21:03 GMT
#542
MLG really needs to address their format, but I can't see them admitting their errors. Under their format, they're consistently going to have a good portion of B-talent among the seeds.
Skype: divito7
nearl
Profile Joined February 2011
United States22 Posts
May 18 2011 21:03 GMT
#543
I'm excited to watch Pools C & D. They seem like they have the best groups, and hopefully should have some good matches.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 21:04:37
May 18 2011 21:03 GMT
#544
On May 18 2011 19:36 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 19:05 FXOpen wrote:
I think the Koreans should have to go through the open bracket just like the rest of the players. Naniwa did it and won the tournamnet, whats stopping moon or whoever doing the same?

It is sort of like gaming racism in a way really. But not a serious form of racism. I feel sorry for anyone who played 18-22 (seeing as though 2 ppl are not showing so 16 17 should get in?).



What about the code A invites GOM gave a few season back (and will again soon plus even a code S spot) to Huk, Moonglade etc? It's exactly the same thing they didn't have to go through horrible qualifiers (which are probably 10x harder then the MLG ones) while the korean players did.

Well, the comparisons don't exactly work because there's basically two tiers in MLG
1) pool play, which is desirable
2) open brackets, which you'd want to avoid

but three tiers in GSL
1) Code S, which is desirable
2) Code A, which is not as desirable, but better than Code B
3) Code B, which you'd want to avoid

Koreans are seeded into the first tier at MLG, but MLG performers are seeded into the much less desirable 2nd tier of GSL.


Now that changes after Columbus, with the winner of MLG getting Code S straight away, so what I proposed a bit earlier was a similar exchange, seeding one Korean into the MLG pool play and the other three into round 2 or 3 of the open bracket.

edit: or alternatively, seed the MLG winners straight into Code S
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
May 18 2011 21:04 GMT
#545
Awesome stuff! Besides the Group stages, I hope we get to see some mid level open bracket games on live stream on the 'down time.'
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
oo inflame oo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States286 Posts
May 18 2011 21:14 GMT
#546
omg, Group C is amazing. I feel so bad for Tyler. I know on STOG he was trying to sound confident, but he has to realize there's a good chance he gets 4-0ed.

Also funny that inControl got put in the same group as Machine and TLO.
lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
May 18 2011 21:28 GMT
#547
Jesus as eveyrone has notice group C is def stacked. I feel really bad for some of those players because they are some of the top tier players in a disgusting group
Awesome german interviewer: "What was your idea going into games against Idra" "I WANTED TO USE A CHEESE STRATEGY BECAUSE IDRA IS KNOWN TO TILT AFTER LOSING TO SOMETHING GAY" Demuslim
NotShade
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada26 Posts
May 18 2011 21:34 GMT
#548
All the players in group C could easily be top 5. This is insane -_-
kNightLite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States408 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 21:38:58
May 18 2011 21:34 GMT
#549
I am concerned about players accumulating rank points from their invites. MLG rank points are worth a heck of a lot more than GSL rank points. After MLG Columbus those 4 Koreans are going to continue to be seeded in the championship bracket unless they *really, really* screw up. Because after you get in the championship bracket its very tough to leave it, as evidenced by Gretorp.

Getting an all-expense-paid invite is a big enough advantage as it is. Gaining rank points from said invite (even if you lose every single match) is too much.

If koreans want rank points from MLG then they should run the gauntlet in the open bracket, just like everyone else. The same goes for foreigners invited into GSL.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
May 18 2011 21:42 GMT
#550
On May 19 2011 06:34 kNightLite wrote:
I am concerned about players accumulating rank points from their invites. MLG rank points are worth a heck of a lot more than GSL rank points. After MLG Columbus those 4 Koreans are going to continue to be seeded in the championship bracket unless they *really, really* screw up. Because after you get in the championship bracket its very tough to leave it, as evidenced by Gretorp.

Don't forget that there are at least 16 players in the seeded pools who are going into this tournament with rank points already and will only add to that at Columbus, while the Koreans enter with 0 points.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
May 18 2011 21:50 GMT
#551
-.- IdrA always in group of death- although i guess he kinda contributes to the deathiness

Well, every tournament seems to be getting better and better- just plix have a good stream
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 22:08:27
May 18 2011 22:05 GMT
#552
On May 19 2011 06:03 Bobster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 19:36 Logros wrote:
On May 18 2011 19:05 FXOpen wrote:
I think the Koreans should have to go through the open bracket just like the rest of the players. Naniwa did it and won the tournamnet, whats stopping moon or whoever doing the same?

It is sort of like gaming racism in a way really. But not a serious form of racism. I feel sorry for anyone who played 18-22 (seeing as though 2 ppl are not showing so 16 17 should get in?).



What about the code A invites GOM gave a few season back (and will again soon plus even a code S spot) to Huk, Moonglade etc? It's exactly the same thing they didn't have to go through horrible qualifiers (which are probably 10x harder then the MLG ones) while the korean players did.

Well, the comparisons don't exactly work because there's basically two tiers in MLG
1) pool play, which is desirable
2) open brackets, which you'd want to avoid

but three tiers in GSL
1) Code S, which is desirable
2) Code A, which is not as desirable, but better than Code B
3) Code B, which you'd want to avoid

Koreans are seeded into the first tier at MLG, but MLG performers are seeded into the much less desirable 2nd tier of GSL.


Now that changes after Columbus, with the winner of MLG getting Code S straight away, so what I proposed a bit earlier was a similar exchange, seeding one Korean into the MLG pool play and the other three into round 2 or 3 of the open bracket.

edit: or alternatively, seed the MLG winners straight into Code S


Is it fair? Not really.

But it is profitable. Having Koreans play would definitely up the level of competition. And let's be realistic, if Koreans had to go through the open bracket no Koreans would join, as who would be willing to pay for a plane ticket just to go to Open Bracket (and potentially get nothing?) - makes 0 sense whatsoever. It's hard enough to convince Huk (who isn't coming, even though GSL purposefully made time in its schedule for MLG and he could have qualified directly to pool play).

Overall I like the decision. Great chance to see how koreans stack up in a LAN environment against some very good-quality NA players (as opposed to sending two or three players, like Idra/Huk/Jinro, to Korea to play a whole bunch of Koreans).

EDIT: Just another note

http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-and-the-gsl-create-groundbreaking-player-exchange-program

That's a damn good exchange for NA players, going straight to Code A OR S is pretty desirable. I'd say MLG made out better on this one, obviously it's a deal GSL wants to make because they want more foreign players (without sounding ridiculously unfair by handpicking invites like last time) to increase the interest from foreigners, but still, in terms of quality, you're going to have players jumping straight to Code S that would never be able to get there going from Code A qualis.
SillyPrincess
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada115 Posts
May 18 2011 22:07 GMT
#553
Pool A: Nani+Moon
Pool B: KiWiKaKi+MMA
Pool C: IdrA+SeleCT
Pool D: Losira+Machine
For the swarm. ♥
psychics
Profile Joined May 2011
2 Posts
May 18 2011 22:10 GMT
#554
not sure if korean players will handle the lag
Scorpius
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden36 Posts
May 18 2011 22:12 GMT
#555
Thorzain isnt he gonna play MLG?? didnt he say that after he won TSL3 that he was gonna play?!
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
May 18 2011 22:15 GMT
#556
not sure if it was mentioned earlier but group C... wow. haha
I can not wait to watch these games, and i really hope the good ones get shown!
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
alexninty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany9 Posts
May 18 2011 22:17 GMT
#557
easy going for Dario ;-)
oo inflame oo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States286 Posts
May 18 2011 22:19 GMT
#558
On May 19 2011 07:07 SillyPrincess wrote:
Pool A: Nani+Moon
Pool B: KiWiKaKi+MMA
Pool C: IdrA+SeleCT
Pool D: Losira+Machine


Are you insane? You know there are arguments that Bomber is the best player in the world right?
Flytothesky
Profile Joined April 2004
United States591 Posts
May 18 2011 22:19 GMT
#559
MLG please cast all the games for Group C. I beg you.
delo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States333 Posts
May 18 2011 22:19 GMT
#560
On May 19 2011 07:12 Scorpius wrote:
Thorzain isnt he gonna play MLG?? didnt he say that after he won TSL3 that he was gonna play?!

Yep, and since he's never been to an MLG before and doesn't appear to be one of the Korean invites, it stands to reason that he'll be going through the open bracket.
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