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On May 18 2011 15:51 nalgene wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 15:39 koolaid1990 wrote: Who the hell is Line? Jinro has no excuse if he doesnt win this one, he has one of the easiest opponents If he's good enough to qualify, he's probably pretty good... to some extent... just because he's unknown doesn't mean he'll instantly lose...
No, Line actually is terrible (from what we've seen). He's the team captain of ZeNEX, but he lost to Hyperdub last GSL so Jinro should have no trouble dispatching him.
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Hwaiting... Make time go faster
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On May 18 2011 01:47 bigjenk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 00:29 Sandro wrote:On May 18 2011 00:25 longdivision wrote:On May 18 2011 00:17 busbarn wrote:Missing out on MLG, DH and maybe homestory cup only to have a slight chance of beating one or two koreans is probably not worth it  I believe the first place prize for GSL supertournament is more than the sum of the total prize pools of those other three tournaments. Anyone with a chance of winning should compete in the GSL tourney imo... Lets not beat around the bush here, the foreigners that declined dont have the skill necessary to make it deep into the tournament. Some might make it to ro32 but thats a pittance compared to potential money they can make in NA and EU. I just wish people would stop asking why foreigners wont participate in GSL ffs, the answer is clear as day. Outside maybe 4 koreans atm i wouldn't say anyone has a "good" shot at a deep run. The bigger reason is gom shuts them down for anything else for a month to compete.
they dont need to stay for a month though if they lose in the r64 or r32, nothing stopping them from packing their bag and leave
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For a tournament as packed as this one, Jinro has a pretty good draw. From wat we've seen Line is pretty awful, and Jinro is good enough to beat Kyrix or BanBans. If he reaches the Ro16, he plays either Junwi/Virus/Coca/Nada. They're obviously not bad at all (Jinro lost to Coca) but compared to a lot of the groups, he lucked out quite a bit. Jinro vs Nada is very possible.
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Well will this tournament take a month to complete as well? Because MLG is a weekend so the $ per hour spent is WAY more then a month long GSL where you can't really compete elsewhere. Moonglade took 4th at IEM if he does at MLG he gets into code a, that is just smart thinking by him as its well known that its harder to get into code a then into code s.
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On May 17 2011 23:15 Morale wrote: Morrow, TT1, moonglade, whitera and dimaga.
I was so expecting to see them play darn.
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On May 18 2011 03:10 coolcor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 02:39 Gigaudas wrote:On May 18 2011 02:08 aDd3z wrote:On May 18 2011 02:01 coolcor wrote: So the MLG/GOM exchange is probably doomed since this shows nobody is ever going to go over to Korea for a month. actually i dont care for foreigners in korea but its nice that there will be koreans at mlg hope they wont stop the exchange program if no one is going to korea  btw: TheBest and legalmind? omg they wont win a sigle match The GSL/MLG-exchange includes housing and travel expenses so I think it will be more popular. But people aren't talking about how expensive it would be to go to Korea for the reason foreigners are not going. They are talking about all the other tournaments they will miss and saying it is better to play in those. It is they same reason Idra left and everyone on SOTG said they would refuse a code A or S spot with expenses paid and thought not many others would accept either.
didnt Tyler said that he will consider to go if it was the Code S spot ? I mean there's nothing to lose since you already got about $1400 just being in the round of 32 plus all flights and expenses are paid by GOM
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I was sort of expecting at least one person to make the trip out to Korea for this, but I can understand how difficult it is to up and leave for a month on short notice.
Alicia vs MC in the first round looks promising.
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It's sorta too bad Alicia gets MC right off the bat. Alicia's great and I like him, but I can't see him beating MC in a PvP. >_> HuK v San should be interesting, depending on if it's HoSeoMan or HoSeoSad that shows up.
Thanks for the list, OP.
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so many more terrans than other races STILL =/. huk and jinro fighting!
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man these brackets are terrible....GOM seems to have it in for the top protoss players :[ there are so few of them, and yet:
Alicia vs MC Huk vs San Ace vs FD Squirtle vs MKP Killer vs Bomber
wish they had a better system of seeding....MVP and Nestea have to take out super low point players but MC has to take out Alicia??!? (not saying i don't think he will win but I don't understand how they seeded them in a way that lands MVP and Nestea with two players from the bottom 15 players while MC gets paired with Code S Alicia =/).
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my god the is so many terrans, hopefully a lot of TvT early on to knock some out!!!!
can see why the foreigners are not going, so long away where you may not win anything, no other tournaments to particapte over there when you can be at home and enter a number of different showmatches/weekly tournaments along with big tournaments like DH, MLG and many others... Not to mention if they are in NASL then they will be playing games with delay whichc an be fixed by rpacticing but when you can play at home and play with pretty much none.
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So dissapointed, totally unhyped
I've heard the rumor but I couldn't believe it, why won't you go, why won't you try. I guess there are numerous reasons and some are actually legit in my eyes, but it's still a bit stupid it's only the GSL players. Maybe we should just see this as the equivalent to the MLG National Championship I guess? If it will run in paralel with GSL would be good but probably gonna replace temporarily.
Look, Jinro is 10th and HuK is 30th. That's amazing considering how stacked the field is. Every round grants a lot of money, if you don't believe in yourself you will never win shit anyway. There is a handful of foreigners that I could see going and doing more than ok to justify the time spent.
It's a hot topic currently and I really think it's stupid not more foreigners jump on a plane, even if it's only for the experience and personal growth. See it as an investment in yourself. Then we have ballers like NaNiwa who openly admit to actually wanting to be the best and doesn't give a fuck about cash prizes (he does but it takes a second or later place).
If it's gonna be like this, lets send people like NaNiwa over. I wanna watch him play, I wanna watch him dominate. I wanna watch him laugh when he does great in tournaments like this.
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I'm more disappointed by the seeding than anything. I mean, it was random, so it's not totally GOM's fault, but there do seem to be a lot of unfair first-round matches (MC vs Alicia...). I also don't feel like the World Championship should contribute to point totals; it's just artificially boosting the point totals of the already-highest GSL players, and giving an auto-invite to foreigners who came to Korea to compete for a week over guys who have accumulated their points for 3+ months. In that sense, I'm kind of glad guys like Min and Creator got spots over WhiteRa and Dimaga, because they've put more effort into qualifying. Jinro and HuK deserve it because they've devoted their lives to making it in the GSL.
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I don't keep track of all the tournaments that are currently on-going or planned in future, but how many of them actually require you to be physicall present at the tournament location? I've heard MLG and Dreamhack as examples, but it just seems puzzling how GSL Koreans have no problem (or rather eager) to go abroad to attend these MLG's and Dreamhack's of world, yet foreigners can't if they are to stay in Korea?
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On May 18 2011 18:13 jellyjello wrote: I don't keep track of all the tournaments that are currently on-going or planned in future, but how many of them actually require you to be physicall present at the tournament location? I've heard MLG and Dreamhack as examples, but it just seems puzzling how GSL Koreans have no problem (or rather eager) to go abroad to attend these MLG's and Dreamhack's of world, yet foreigners can't if they are to stay in Korea?
Because deciding on living in a country on the other end of the world is an easy decision to make, right? The koreans live there anyway, then go aborad to MLG for a weekend and come back home.
As a foreigner it's a huge commitmend to go there and additionally you pretty much give up playing in foreign (especially European) online tournaments.
Also plane tickets aren't handed out for free at the airport.
Haven't read it yet but I guess this sums it up: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=224111
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On May 18 2011 18:19 FliedLice wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 18:13 jellyjello wrote: I don't keep track of all the tournaments that are currently on-going or planned in future, but how many of them actually require you to be physicall present at the tournament location? I've heard MLG and Dreamhack as examples, but it just seems puzzling how GSL Koreans have no problem (or rather eager) to go abroad to attend these MLG's and Dreamhack's of world, yet foreigners can't if they are to stay in Korea? Because deciding on living in a country on the other end of the world is an easy decision to make, right? The koreans live there anyway, then go aborad to MLG for a weekend and come back home. As a foreigner it's a huge commitmend to go there and additionally you pretty much give up playing in foreign (especially European) online tournaments. Also plane tickets aren't handed out for free at the airport. Haven't read it yet but I guess this sums it up: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=224111
How does living in Korea equal to giving up on playing online tournaments? lol
I think the one thing most of people are forgetting is that GSL is not run by someone with a lot of money for his own pleasure or enjoyment, but rather it's a 100% business-oriented operation. If you are not a dedicated programmer, then you really don't belong in the GSL, period.
Secondly, you don't just come into Korea (for GSL) planning on only living for one month and take off. You have to invest yourself for the long term, like Jinro, Huk, and Haypro did, and work hard to get that goal you desire. Sometimes it pays off (see Huk), sometimes it's still on-going (Jinro) while other times it just doesn't work out (Haypro). Investing yourself in the long term will allow you to enjoy other online tournaments while your main focus is on the GSL.
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Wow, gomtv really hates Huk... <.< First his stacked group at the up-and-down matches, and now san as his very first opponent.
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woah Alicia vs MC will be awesome! Also, Jinro should win his game
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