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WinZero
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand5 Posts
May 08 2011 19:41 GMT
#81
Sweden , Ukraine , German other line up quite equal 2 me ...
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fadestep
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States605 Posts
May 08 2011 19:42 GMT
#82
On May 09 2011 03:54 VoirDire wrote:
Top 5 gotta be Sweden, Ukraine, Germany, US, Canada.


Good call. Totally agree with that list.
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Cajun2k1
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands399 Posts
May 08 2011 19:43 GMT
#83
Sweden was the first country which popped into my head.
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ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
May 08 2011 19:43 GMT
#84
Ukraine/Sweden/Canada?Germany
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 19:44:39
May 08 2011 19:44 GMT
#85
Sweden obv, then probly Canada/Ukraine
KillerPenguin
Profile Joined June 2004
United States516 Posts
May 08 2011 19:44 GMT
#86
1 sweden
2 ukraine
3 canada
4 usa

usa has idra, select, tyler, cruncher, qxc

It would be awesome to see a team league bo9 with these countries top 5 players.
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simme123
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Sweden810 Posts
May 08 2011 19:45 GMT
#87
Sweden though they don't have the most wins .. or at least i think so they are performing really well and since we're only 9 million people in Sweden we do have a lot of good players.. cs is even sicker when it comes to Swedes though :p
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 19:50:29
May 08 2011 19:46 GMT
#88
Ukraine Germany and of course Sweden

edit: neither usa nor canada could measure with the europeans i think
look at the results of tsl ukraine germany 2xSweden in the semis so ...
also you can look at the results of the nasl and tourneys like mlg ... (eventhough kivikaki went pretty far into dallas but other than that...)
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tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 19:47:11
May 08 2011 19:46 GMT
#89
Sweden > Ukraine > Germany > Canada > USA (without SeleCT)

China will be up there somewhere soon enough though.
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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
May 08 2011 19:46 GMT
#90
Obviously the TSL is evoking all the Sweden responses, but the US really has a ton of strong players- Ukraine is also up there. Canada as well. It also depends on if you're looking at the top 2 or 3 players or where you could find like a really good 10 pro-players outside of Korea. That would almost certainly have to be the US.
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
May 08 2011 19:46 GMT
#91
Sweden, ukraine, canada. USA.
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BaronFel
Profile Joined July 2009
United States155 Posts
May 08 2011 19:47 GMT
#92
Sweden vs Ukraine would be awesome
HadesCP
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada98 Posts
May 08 2011 19:47 GMT
#93
Sweden probably the best, Ukraine/USA/Canada 2-4 probably in that order. Think IdrA gives US the edge over Canada, who have a slightly stronger top 5. Like many have said, it'd be awesome to see a world cup type tournament!
Tristy
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway172 Posts
May 08 2011 19:47 GMT
#94
Must say sweden here
Thorzain, Sjow, Naniwa, Morrow, Sase, and a few more.
Ukraine is easy nr 2, and after that it is a cointoss tbh.
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Qwix
Profile Joined October 2010
531 Posts
May 08 2011 19:48 GMT
#95
Sweden > Ukraine > Canada > Germany in my opinion. Europe is getting quite ahead :')
corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
May 08 2011 19:49 GMT
#96
ukraine
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Cow
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1104 Posts
May 08 2011 19:50 GMT
#97
On May 09 2011 03:54 VoirDire wrote:
Top 5 gotta be Sweden, Ukraine, Germany, US, Canada.

Going to have to agree with these 5 right here. (In no particular order)
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Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
May 08 2011 19:50 GMT
#98
Kore-B
I think esports is pretty nice.
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
May 08 2011 19:50 GMT
#99
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Bergys
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden337 Posts
May 08 2011 19:51 GMT
#100
On May 09 2011 04:39 Grezzz wrote:
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On May 09 2011 04:30 Stenstyren wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:18 Grezzz wrote:
Probably the US, not because it has the best players, but because it has the largest population of the sc2 playing nations. You have to consider that IdrA can probably take out any non-US player, and there's plenty of other decent-ish US players to back him up.

In terms of player-skill per population, it's definately Sweden and Ukraine. Germany has to be fairly close after.



What does population size have to do with anything? USA has less players performing than Ukraine and Sweden. Idra can most certainly not beat any non-US player, in fact, his toughest opponents are non-us players (WhiteRa, Jinro, Naniwa to name a few).


Population size has quite a lot to do with it. If you were to play USA vs Sweden and keep going until one team can no longer field a decent player I'd be willing to bet that Sweden would run out of players before the USA. Sure, Sweden can probably field a better 4-5 player team, but if you kept throwing the USA GM players at them they'd eventually lose because beyond the top few players it's hard to name anybody capable of winning games at that level.

It's like comparing something like USA vs Jamaica in athletics. Sure, Jamaica has the biggest superstar with Usain Bolt, but the USA has such a huge number of medal winning athletes that you just have to say that they have a better lineup overall.

Of course it's all opinion and down to how you want to set restrictions. I'm simply saying that in terms of numbers of players capable of winning games, USA probably has more. If you're looking for the best 4-person team, it could be different.


First of all USA would probably lose anyway since naniwa/kas/whoever can probably solo 190 out of the 200 best players without dropping a game if they were allowed breaks etc. Secondly the topic says the best pro line-up so country population is actually irrelevant since US doesn't really have that many pro players for their size.
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