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Which Non-Korea Nation has the best pro lineup? - Page 4

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Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
May 08 2011 19:30 GMT
#61
Ukraine has dimaga. That alone should say enough.

But sweden comes at a honourable and close second.
Stenstyren
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden619 Posts
May 08 2011 19:30 GMT
#62
On May 09 2011 04:18 Grezzz wrote:
Probably the US, not because it has the best players, but because it has the largest population of the sc2 playing nations. You have to consider that IdrA can probably take out any non-US player, and there's plenty of other decent-ish US players to back him up.

In terms of player-skill per population, it's definately Sweden and Ukraine. Germany has to be fairly close after.



What does population size have to do with anything? USA has less players performing than Ukraine and Sweden. Idra can most certainly not beat any non-US player, in fact, his toughest opponents are non-us players (WhiteRa, Jinro, Naniwa to name a few).
aLuLz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany175 Posts
May 08 2011 19:31 GMT
#63
Sweden:
thorzain, naniwa, jinro, morrow, sjow, bischu, lalush, jimpo and many many many other very good players.

Canada
huk, kiwikaki, tt1 ("teeteewon" - whitera), fenix, dde, slush, stalife mabye

North America/Germany.
NA: Idra, moonan, sheth, tyler, kawaiirice, gositerran, etc..
Ger: TLO, hasuobs, socke, goody, darkforce, inso, mondi etc

Ukraine:
Whitera, kas, dimaga, strelok (, underdark, ukrainestar)

The most noticeable foreign coutries. France and poland also not bad, but not that good
FenneK
Profile Joined November 2010
France1231 Posts
May 08 2011 19:31 GMT
#64
On May 09 2011 04:02 mr_tolkien wrote:
Nobody thinks France is quite up there ?

Adelscott, Stephano, Moman, Song, Sarens would make quite an ace team...


A nice thought, but none of those players match up to the likes of Thorzain, Jinro, Morrow, Naniwa etc

So yeah I'm saying Sweden, then Ukraine, then Germany, then Canada.
good luck have batman
Gatsbi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1134 Posts
May 08 2011 19:31 GMT
#65
Sweden or Ukraine for sure
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sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
May 08 2011 19:32 GMT
#66
How about a poll?
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Overpowered
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic764 Posts
May 08 2011 19:33 GMT
#67
Sweden
Just another gold Protoss...
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
May 08 2011 19:33 GMT
#68
sweden the best so far.... aalthough ukraine not too far behind imo! canada has some beast players would put them top4 as well
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SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
May 08 2011 19:34 GMT
#69
On May 09 2011 04:29 1Eris1 wrote:
Don't really think theres currently a player that could beat IdrA in a bo5 atm, but considering for the U.S it's basically him and (unless you count Select) a few slightly lower players (Tyler, QXC, etc)

I'd say Sweden, Ukraine, USA, Germany, Canada for a pro league format.
For winners league, USA, Sweden, Ukraine, Canada, Germany


2 words:
Naniwa
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 19:37:35
May 08 2011 19:35 GMT
#70
Sweden for sure is leading the pack.

Ukraine and Germany takes second.

Then i would say USA maybe?

I'm sad that nobody mentioned Poland with MaNa, Tarson, Nerchio, Diestar, Tefel, Slider, ParanOid, Dreiven but probably i'm just biased ^^
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
act.hero
Profile Joined April 2011
United States205 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 19:39:32
May 08 2011 19:36 GMT
#71
Change the OP to best: Terran/Protoss/Zerg team.

Sweden: SjoW / Naniwa / Morrow

Ukraine: Kas / WhiteRa / Dimaga

Germany: Goody / HasuObs / Darkforce

France: Adelscott / ? / Moman

Canada (Root lol): Drewbie / Kiwikaki / Slush

USA: SeleCT (Qxc? if you don't count select) / Incontrol / IdrA

Anyone else?
mdma-_-
Profile Joined October 2010
Nauru1213 Posts
May 08 2011 19:37 GMT
#72
ppl tend to forget china!
lovecd, lovett, xiaot, infi and loner :D
they will be surely with ukraine, canada, germany or sweden as soon as they start joining
more international events.
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
May 08 2011 19:37 GMT
#73
Sweden > Ukraine > Canada/Germany/US

regardless of format imo
bellhop
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States165 Posts
May 08 2011 19:37 GMT
#74
I would love to see a StarCraft II World Cup, would be so much fun to see players from different teams come together in support of their own country. USA would have Coach Tosis though :D

I think people tend to underestimate USA players, but still Sweden and Ukraine would dominate any format. In regards to France's team, Adelescott and Stephano are the only two that come to mind as internationally known players.
Ceci n'est pas une disloqueur.
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
May 08 2011 19:38 GMT
#75
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1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 08 2011 19:38 GMT
#76
On May 09 2011 04:34 SuperStyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:29 1Eris1 wrote:
Don't really think theres currently a player that could beat IdrA in a bo5 atm, but considering for the U.S it's basically him and (unless you count Select) a few slightly lower players (Tyler, QXC, etc)

I'd say Sweden, Ukraine, USA, Germany, Canada for a pro league format.
For winners league, USA, Sweden, Ukraine, Canada, Germany


2 words:
Naniwa



Thats one word.
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Zerkaszhan
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada120 Posts
May 08 2011 19:38 GMT
#77
On May 09 2011 04:35 5ukkub wrote:
Sweden for sure is leading the pack.

Ukraine and Germany takes second.

Then i would say USA maybe?

I'm sad that nobody mentioned Poland with MaNa, Tarson, Nerchio, Diestar, Tefel, Slider but probably i'm just biased ^^

Probably
To be completely honest i would say Ukraine and not sweden.
Sweden is good but as of late it only seems to be naniwa performing as jinro has been hitting tough times

While Kas White-ra and Dimaga are all performing
here comes the swarm
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 19:40:01
May 08 2011 19:39 GMT
#78
Taiwan has to be mentioned, they haven't been in too many tournaments but they have their own televised league and Sen. That has to count for something, plus they have a few impressive players in StarsWar.
/commercial
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
May 08 2011 19:39 GMT
#79
Ukraine vs. Sweden for sure. Tough call between those two.
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Grezzz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom78 Posts
May 08 2011 19:39 GMT
#80
On May 09 2011 04:30 Stenstyren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:18 Grezzz wrote:
Probably the US, not because it has the best players, but because it has the largest population of the sc2 playing nations. You have to consider that IdrA can probably take out any non-US player, and there's plenty of other decent-ish US players to back him up.

In terms of player-skill per population, it's definately Sweden and Ukraine. Germany has to be fairly close after.



What does population size have to do with anything? USA has less players performing than Ukraine and Sweden. Idra can most certainly not beat any non-US player, in fact, his toughest opponents are non-us players (WhiteRa, Jinro, Naniwa to name a few).


Population size has quite a lot to do with it. If you were to play USA vs Sweden and keep going until one team can no longer field a decent player I'd be willing to bet that Sweden would run out of players before the USA. Sure, Sweden can probably field a better 4-5 player team, but if you kept throwing the USA GM players at them they'd eventually lose because beyond the top few players it's hard to name anybody capable of winning games at that level.

It's like comparing something like USA vs Jamaica in athletics. Sure, Jamaica has the biggest superstar with Usain Bolt, but the USA has such a huge number of medal winning athletes that you just have to say that they have a better lineup overall.

Of course it's all opinion and down to how you want to set restrictions. I'm simply saying that in terms of numbers of players capable of winning games, USA probably has more. If you're looking for the best 4-person team, it could be different.
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