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On January 25 2012 06:10 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 06:06 sVnteen wrote:On January 25 2012 05:57 meadbert wrote: #1 Korea #2 Sweden #3 Ukraine #4 Poland (Mostly Nerchio and Mana) #5 China #6 France (Mostly Stephano) #7 Russia #8 USA #9 Germany #10 Canada china as 5? only loner made a small impact at blizz con way earlier but since then they havent had any results that are worth mentioning they always do really poorly at foreign tournaments also russia is no way better than canada or germany - nor is USA france are pretty much stephano and tod then it becomes very mediocre ukraine poland and sweden are probably the top 3 (non-korean ofc) and then france and germany and canada pretty much on the same level imo then quite a bit of nothing and then probably russia and USA (only atm ofc but sheth and qxc are really not that active in tourneys lately and that 2 europeans were top 4 at us qualifier pretty much tells the story) Germany are better than Poland. Poland have two top foreigners but almost no depth. Germany can put out a good 10 players.
Poland has Mana, Nerchio, Diestar, Romson, Tefel, Tarson. 15 guys in GM We are really good but some on those guys are not that known. Well Germany is really good either, but I feel it's really hard to tell which country has better lineup
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1.Korea 2.Sweden(Nani,Morrow,Thorzain,SjoW) 3.Ukr(White-Ra,Kas,Strelok,Dima) 4.Ger(Socke,Hasu,DF,Goody...) 5.PolandNerchio Tarson and Mana)
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mmhh i would do it that way:
1st Tier: Sweden, Ukraine
2nd Tier: Canada, Germany, Poland, France
3rd Tier: USA, Russia, Netherlands
4th Tier: Italy (Cloud), Belgium (Feast, the IEM Kiev underdog), Finland (Naama), UK (Demuslim) and probably some countries i forgot the players from....
No real order in any of these....maybe USA at the top of the 3rd tier
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1) Korea 2) Sweden, Ukraine 3) Canada, Germany, France, USA 4) Poland 5) Everyone else.
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Fun fact: pretty much all of Germany's up and coming players are Terrans lol. Just realized that we have like 20 players in GM.
Ukraine/Sweden is undeniably at the top though.
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Let's not forget China.
I would put Sweden, Ukraine and China on the 2nd tier, first tier being Korea. Xigua had a very strong performance at WCG, I am curious to see if Macsed and Xigua can survive in Code A, something most foreigners have not been able to do.
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iem is hosting a nation wars league soon so theres no need to speculate on who the best country is, well have the facts soon enought
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On January 25 2012 06:53 mTwTT1 wrote: iem is hosting a nation wars league soon so theres no need to speculate on who the best country is, well have the facts soon enought
Awesome, will you be lacing em up for Canada? Wonder who else will too..
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On January 25 2012 06:50 RageCommodore wrote: Fun fact: pretty much all of Germany's up and coming players are Terrans lol. Just realized that we have like 20 players in GM.
Ukraine/Sweden is undeniably at the top though.
I noticed this aswell O_O But oh well, better only terrans than no terrans, no toss and no zerg :D And I have to agree, Sweden/Ukraine is definetly miles ahead of the rest of the foreign world.
( I wouldn't count HuK as he basically lives in Korea )
Personally I'd find it awesome if Grubby would get more exposure to the international scene. Since he's on his own team he won't ever compete in team leagues or hardly ever on sponsored showmatches. Pretty sad imho.
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On January 25 2012 06:45 Scio wrote: mmhh i would do it that way:
1st Tier: Sweden, Ukraine
2nd Tier: Canada, Germany, Poland, France
3rd Tier: USA, Russia, Netherlands
4th Tier: Italy (Cloud), Belgium (Feast, the IEM Kiev underdog), Finland (Naama), UK (Demuslim) and probably some countries i forgot the players from....
No real order in any of these....maybe USA at the top of the 3rd tier
You kidding me?
UK, Demuslim, Lau, BlinG
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On January 25 2012 06:57 Tidus Mino wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 06:45 Scio wrote: mmhh i would do it that way:
1st Tier: Sweden, Ukraine
2nd Tier: Canada, Germany, Poland, France
3rd Tier: USA, Russia, Netherlands
4th Tier: Italy (Cloud), Belgium (Feast, the IEM Kiev underdog), Finland (Naama), UK (Demuslim) and probably some countries i forgot the players from....
No real order in any of these....maybe USA at the top of the 3rd tier You kidding me? UK, Demuslim, Lau, BlinG
Well... Lau lost badly to TaKe, so I'm not too sure of his level of play :D
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Sweden, Ukraine, Germany, slightly behind those are probably USA, France, Poland, Canada
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Sweden so scary with NaNiWa, SaSe, ThorZaiN, MorroW, Jinro, Sjow, HayprO, Bischu, merz, Cytoplasm, Seiplo, LaLush, Naugrim, Jimpo
Ukraine scary as well but not that many players than Sweden: White-ra, DIMAGA, Strelok, Kas, Bly, HappyZerg, ALF
Germany pretty solid with Socke, HasuObs, DarKFoRcE, TLO, GoOdy, Delphi, Xlord (Mondragon)
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On January 25 2012 06:57 Tidus Mino wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 06:45 Scio wrote: mmhh i would do it that way:
1st Tier: Sweden, Ukraine
2nd Tier: Canada, Germany, Poland, France
3rd Tier: USA, Russia, Netherlands
4th Tier: Italy (Cloud), Belgium (Feast, the IEM Kiev underdog), Finland (Naama), UK (Demuslim) and probably some countries i forgot the players from....
No real order in any of these....maybe USA at the top of the 3rd tier You kidding me? UK, Demuslim, Lau, BlinG
Yea i forgot Bling but even then every country from Tier 3 is still stronger^^
Aslo @people ranking Korea as #1 should check the threadtitle
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sweden most definately. After that it is ukraine imho. Canada cant compete with either of those =//
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If we are talking about current form then probably ukraine.
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On January 25 2012 06:53 mTwTT1 wrote: iem is hosting a nation wars league soon so theres no need to speculate on who the best country is, well have the facts soon enought Didn't a lot of players turn that down? Or maybe I'm confusing it with some other nation esque war competition.
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Sweden and Ukraine. Not much debate to be had.
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Sweden, as everybody said.
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Sweden vs Ukraine bo9 would be sick.
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