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Which Non-Korea Nation has the best pro lineup? - Page 15

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VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
May 09 2011 00:13 GMT
#281
I would LOVE a world championship that would run like how the gsl team league ran. Perhaps some kind of group play to determine seeding but then it is each country fielding a team of 6-7 players meeting up in a best of 7 with another country until one is left standing.

Sweden, Ukraine, Germany, Canada, France, South Korea and the USA in no particular order are given participants in such a tournament, one more country would be needed though for 8 teams. I just don't know enough about other sc2 countries I mean I know chinese and taiwanese and brittish sc2 players but for those countries I just know 1 or 2 names and I don't know which eight country would be able to field a full team of relatively even players.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
Shimeone
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium16 Posts
May 09 2011 00:17 GMT
#282
Belgium!

Well, they got me. That's a start.
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
May 09 2011 00:20 GMT
#283
Isn't that what the WCG is for? See which nation fields the best players? We don't need another tournament, WCG is one of the most prestigious tournaments.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 09 2011 00:51 GMT
#284
On May 09 2011 03:53 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Foreigners have traditionally all been lumped into one big group in Starcraft, which made sense in BW because the scene was comparatively small enough that each country had at best a small handful of notable players.

But with the foreigner SC2 scene growing by leaps and bounds, a legitimate question arises:

Which foreigner nation can field the best pro lineup?


This used to be brought up on a bi-weekly basis when all we had was SC:BW. Hell, we used to have a ton of Nation Wars.

Back then super powers included everything from Germany, China, Poland, etc.

It will constantly change. I'm sure everyone is willing to say Sweden has stepped up to plate once again as the DH when in reality it could be any given Sunday. It's okay, Sweden can be the flavor of the week/month/whatever you want to call it. There are plenty of countries in the wings though.
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 01:01:23
May 09 2011 01:00 GMT
#285
On May 09 2011 04:03 johlar wrote:
Sweden probably has the best tournament results so far(2mlg, 2iem etc) and therefor arguably the strongest nation.
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Widz
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden75 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 01:15:01
May 09 2011 01:14 GMT
#286
US got tons of player but do they have any really good ones? Idra and Select then what?

Edit: Wait Select is Korean
Jacko11
Profile Joined November 2010
China146 Posts
May 09 2011 01:26 GMT
#287
China, just watch the stars war tournament
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 01:44:15
May 09 2011 01:29 GMT
#288
On May 09 2011 10:14 Widz wrote:
US got tons of player but do they have any really good ones? Idra and Select then what?

Edit: Wait Select is Korean

The US has far more players in the Top 100 ELO in TLPD than Sweden. ThorZain and Naniwa are killing it right now, but MorroW is not what he used to be, and Sjow is no better than [insert random NA player here] in his current form right now.

Sheth, IdrA, Kawaiirice, Tyler, qxc, Response; but Sweden has others like Sase as well.

The real 'numbers' country is Canada, afaik they have the most players in the Top 100 ELO atm, but no real superstar.

As for my opinion, I think China, Ukraine, USA, Sweden, Canada, and Germany are the top countries.
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Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
May 09 2011 01:30 GMT
#289
Sweden hands down.
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3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
May 09 2011 01:34 GMT
#290
Sweden the best easily
Ukraine next, and then USA, Canada, Germany, Russia in that order
Xtal
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Haiti385 Posts
May 09 2011 01:38 GMT
#291
Who can you even ask this without a poll?

lol op..
Have you ever heard the story, about the Zergling and the Probe? The Probe didn't make it across the creep.
ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
May 09 2011 01:39 GMT
#292
Yeah, Sweden and Ukraine are probably at the top.

Canada also has a strong showing.
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
May 09 2011 01:41 GMT
#293
US has alot of strong players.
if you can believe you can concieve
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
May 09 2011 01:42 GMT
#294
Made a poll I guess

Poll: Which Non-Korean Nation has the best Pro Lineup

Sweden (45)
 
47%

Poland (16)
 
17%

Germany (10)
 
10%

Canada (8)
 
8%

Ukraine (8)
 
8%

USA (3)
 
3%

China (2)
 
2%

France (2)
 
2%

Finland (1)
 
1%

Russia (1)
 
1%

96 total votes

Your vote: Which Non-Korean Nation has the best Pro Lineup

(Vote): USA
(Vote): Canada
(Vote): Sweden
(Vote): Germany
(Vote): China
(Vote): France
(Vote): Finland
(Vote): Russia
(Vote): Ukraine
(Vote): Poland



it's 21056 for the OP
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VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
May 09 2011 01:44 GMT
#295
There already is a poll:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220825&currentpage=8#144
socommaster123
Profile Joined May 2010
United States578 Posts
May 09 2011 01:48 GMT
#296
Sweden Ukraine US/Germany/Canada...... 3rd place is just a tie when it comes to fielding a good 5 man lineup. I think people need to take MajOr more seriously when it comes to being a top player I think he soon will be considered a force to be reckoned with once he proves himself in a tourny.
Idra White Ra Sheth DRG SaSe Thorzain GOGO!
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 09 2011 01:52 GMT
#297
On May 09 2011 04:03 AlBundy wrote:
Sweden, urkraine, germany, USA

Exactly.

Sweden for tourney results, ukraine for tourney results, germany for TLO & Co, and USA because of massive #s.
Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
May 09 2011 01:52 GMT
#298
I'd gonna go with Sweden.
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3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
May 09 2011 01:53 GMT
#299
depends if Select counts as American or Korean, because if you count him as American then imo US would be slightly better than Canada and better than Germany
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
May 09 2011 02:00 GMT
#300
Ukraine and Sweden for sure - they have some INSANE players.

A "nation wars" would be an awesome tournament; more so than EU vs NA :p
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