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xsevR
Profile Joined January 2011
United States324 Posts
April 22 2011 14:49 GMT
#141
Lol, against the grain here, but I would love to see RPG features in the multi-player. Having a hero might give impetus to smaller, more frequent engagements. I know this won't be the case though...

TFT was an amazing expansion IMO that really improved WC3 fundamentally (attack type/armor type mostly), not just through the addition of things. I'm hoping SC2 won't be afraid to revamp itself via HOTS, because this would really justify the cost of three expansions (and the amount of time between their releases).
CidO
Profile Joined June 2010
United States695 Posts
April 22 2011 15:36 GMT
#142
I still find it funny how people were shootin' holes in the possability that we very well could see heart of the swarm this calendar year, let alone this fiscal year (2012 march ends 2011 fiscal). Blizz has the engine in place, the MP in place, introducing units to MP won't be hard, just to balance, then you have single player, the infrastructure is already there.

Blizzard wants 18 months between game-expansion-expansion, but Activision wants 3 titles released this year according to bobby Kotick and the shareholders:
[image loading]

Some things have changed, but Brazil(for sure) and Japanese(iirc?) wow is coming true, D3 has all signs at Q4, leaving X1 at the same time except, I would expect one of them to be christmas 2011, and the other to be jan/feb/march 2012.
:P
kawaiiryuko
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States368 Posts
April 22 2011 15:42 GMT
#143
On April 23 2011 00:36 CidO wrote:
I still find it funny how people were shootin' holes in the possability that we very well could see heart of the swarm this calendar year, let alone this fiscal year (2012 march ends 2011 fiscal). Blizz has the engine in place, the MP in place, introducing units to MP won't be hard, just to balance, then you have single player, the infrastructure is already there.

Blizzard wants 18 months between game-expansion-expansion, but Activision wants 3 titles released this year according to bobby Kotick and the shareholders:
[image loading]

Some things have changed, but Brazil(for sure) and Japanese(iirc?) wow is coming true, D3 has all signs at Q4, leaving X1 at the same time except, I would expect one of them to be christmas 2011, and the other to be jan/feb/march 2012.


What is SC2 Phoenix??
SilverPotato
Profile Joined July 2010
United States560 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 15:44:27
April 22 2011 15:43 GMT
#144
On April 23 2011 00:36 CidO wrote:
I still find it funny how people were shootin' holes in the possability that we very well could see heart of the swarm this calendar year, let alone this fiscal year (2012 march ends 2011 fiscal). Blizz has the engine in place, the MP in place, introducing units to MP won't be hard, just to balance, then you have single player, the infrastructure is already there.

Blizzard wants 18 months between game-expansion-expansion, but Activision wants 3 titles released this year according to bobby Kotick and the shareholders:
[image loading]

Some things have changed, but Brazil(for sure) and Japanese(iirc?) wow is coming true, D3 has all signs at Q4, leaving X1 at the same time except, I would expect one of them to be christmas 2011, and the other to be jan/feb/march 2012.

Yeah and we'll have no choice but to suck down each $60 expansion as it comes out or not be able to play competitively. Woo ActiBlizz!
"The ability to learn faster than your competitors may be the only sustainable competitive advantage." ~Arie de Geus
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 15:51:07
April 22 2011 15:48 GMT
#145
On April 23 2011 00:42 kawaiiryuko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 00:36 CidO wrote:
I still find it funny how people were shootin' holes in the possability that we very well could see heart of the swarm this calendar year, let alone this fiscal year (2012 march ends 2011 fiscal). Blizz has the engine in place, the MP in place, introducing units to MP won't be hard, just to balance, then you have single player, the infrastructure is already there.

Blizzard wants 18 months between game-expansion-expansion, but Activision wants 3 titles released this year according to bobby Kotick and the shareholders:
[image loading]

Some things have changed, but Brazil(for sure) and Japanese(iirc?) wow is coming true, D3 has all signs at Q4, leaving X1 at the same time except, I would expect one of them to be christmas 2011, and the other to be jan/feb/march 2012.


What is SC2 Phoenix??

No one knows. Most likely an unannounced project.

Anyways, I don't think Blizzard would be able to adhere to Kotick's impatience no matter how insistent Kotck and his shareholders are. Kotick has been around for a while and Activision has been with Blizzard for quite some time, yet SC2 was delayed quite a bit and Diablo 3's release date is still just speculation.

As far as HotS's release goes, I think it will mainly depend on how fast the single-player developers can churn out the campaign considering that it will be the most time and resource-intensive part of the project. The multiplayer additions will probably rely on intuition to develop more than anything else.

On April 23 2011 00:43 SilverPotato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 00:36 CidO wrote:
I still find it funny how people were shootin' holes in the possability that we very well could see heart of the swarm this calendar year, let alone this fiscal year (2012 march ends 2011 fiscal). Blizz has the engine in place, the MP in place, introducing units to MP won't be hard, just to balance, then you have single player, the infrastructure is already there.

Blizzard wants 18 months between game-expansion-expansion, but Activision wants 3 titles released this year according to bobby Kotick and the shareholders:
[image loading]

Some things have changed, but Brazil(for sure) and Japanese(iirc?) wow is coming true, D3 has all signs at Q4, leaving X1 at the same time except, I would expect one of them to be christmas 2011, and the other to be jan/feb/march 2012.

Yeah and we'll have no choice but to suck down each $60 expansion as it comes out or not be able to play competitively. Woo ActiBlizz!

I'm also pretty sure that the expansions won't be priced $60 even though there aren't isn't any official word about the pricing yet.

The only way they can justify a $60 price tag is if they make HotS completely stand-alone. If they go for a more traditional expansion pack model by requiring WoL, I think it definitely will be cheaper, probably at most $40.
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kawaiiryuko
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States368 Posts
April 22 2011 15:49 GMT
#146
Basically, if you look at the cost of WoL, HotS, and LotV, it's basically $150 (or $300 if you buy all three collector's editions, like I plan to do) for what amounts to 3+ years of gaming. The fact that bnet is free is what makes that so worthwhile!

(PS: That reminds me - I should buy some ActiBlizz stock....)
VEReHrT
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada121 Posts
April 22 2011 15:51 GMT
#147
I'm so excited, I'm so excited.

I"m going to have a ball today.
As long as we keep our passion as progamers, we will always have an opportunity to meet again. On a purely personal note, I'd like to show him the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. SlayerS_BoxeR
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
April 22 2011 16:03 GMT
#148
God forbid you pay $140-$180 for literally tens of thousands of potential hours of entertainment. Come on, guys, don't start this pricing complaint BS again. Just be glad you're playing one of the highest replay value games on the market

On April 23 2011 00:49 kawaiiryuko wrote:


(PS: That reminds me - I should buy some ActiBlizz stock....)


Do not do this. Stock prices are rarely governed by obvious factors. I bought ATVI at $12.50 or something 18 months ago and it has actually gone down, usually because some jackass executive sold stock
Shrewmy
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia199 Posts
April 22 2011 16:08 GMT
#149
On April 22 2011 15:30 TheSilverfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 14:51 eviltomahawk wrote:
Also, it would be cool for Blizzard to update the sounds and music in their expansion packs.

Zerg and Protoss music is decent, but pales in comparison to SC2 Terran and BW music. With an estimated 2 year development period, I'm sure that there should be plenty of time for the sound designers and composers to whip up some new ear candy.


So true!

I think Blizzard actually should go and hire some pretty well-known artists for music. I wouldn't mind if Trent Reznor did the Zerg music and Daft Punk did the Protoss music .



Good god no, Daft Punk would not suit Protoss at all. This isn't Tron, dude.

If you've heard the Protoss BW music you know that it suits the Protoss theme much more with sweeping orchestral scores, not repetitive techno.
Greem
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
730 Posts
April 22 2011 16:11 GMT
#150
On April 22 2011 11:10 DirtYLOu wrote:
RPG LIKE? WHAT IS THIS!?!?!

This should be STARCARFT , not WARCRAFT -.-

wow blizzard really is going big for money there... and dont care about Starcraft Fans.




I personally liked the warcraft 3 campaign approach, even if its RTS genre, it doesnt mean campaing story telling should only be approached by RTS ways. The more genres are mixed, the more interesting the campaign will be. They not mixing rpg elements in multiplayer, if that what you're afraid of.
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hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 22 2011 16:15 GMT
#151
Even if it doesn't come out this year we could get the beta for it this year
Greem
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
730 Posts
April 22 2011 16:18 GMT
#152
On April 22 2011 13:45 relyt wrote:
I can't wait to see what units they will introduce into multiplayer.


Yup !!! Can't wait for it either. Hope the units will be more for defensive puroposes, and / or bringing new mechanics to game.
youtube.com/N0rthernL1ght
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
April 22 2011 16:19 GMT
#153
On April 23 2011 01:18 Greem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 13:45 relyt wrote:
I can't wait to see what units they will introduce into multiplayer.


Yup !!! Can't wait for it either. Hope the units will be more for defensive puroposes, and / or bringing new mechanics to game.

ya, some kind of units to elongate the games a bit more.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 22 2011 16:19 GMT
#154
On April 23 2011 01:15 hugman wrote:
Even if it doesn't come out this year we could get the beta for it this year

I'm actually very intrigued by this idea.

Perhaps the HotS beta could just be one long PTR that lets them test some of the crazier, more sweeping changes without being rushed about finalizing balance before the release. Letting several thousand beta-testers of all skill-levels test out major changes could be much better than testing changes within the confines of the Blizzard offices.
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moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
April 22 2011 16:22 GMT
#155
Wait, so Kerrigan goes back to the Zerg? Umm... well then, I guess that I do need to play this campaign to figure this stuff out.

How would you sign-up for the beta?
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 22 2011 16:23 GMT
#156
i will try to not watch any teaser, but i know i will fail at this xD.

For the confused people if its a standalone or not. First they wanted it to be a standalone, but since people complained (most did this because they wanted new units in the multiplayer each expansion), they went away from this and said fine as you want its your money. And thus made it expansions again. (they would have probably added new units for free otherwise if there was a demand ).
But for the people who want to think that blizzard is evil, here another version.
Since bnet was about 3 regions, the multiplayer nerds would have bought 3 versions anyway, the single players obviously as well. So anyone would have bought the expansions anyway. (casual gamers buy everything mainstream anyway). But then they got time issues because of bnet (wanted to release them half a year steps first), increased the single player part so all their programmers had something to do. And while at it they thought multiplayer nerds will not wait one year, they will buy WoL 3 times and afterwards since they want new units, they will buy the expansions as well, so we make lotsa money.

PS: so no standalone, but its the trolls and qqers fault not moneymaking .
Nukm_
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany104 Posts
April 22 2011 16:24 GMT
#157
On April 23 2011 01:22 moltenlead wrote:
Wait, so Kerrigan goes back to the Zerg? Umm... well then, I guess that I do need to play this campaign to figure this stuff out.

How would you sign-up for the beta?


http://eu.battle.net/en/
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
April 22 2011 16:30 GMT
#158
SC2Phoenix is probably Blizzard's app/market/system for buying maps and character name changes and other crap like that.
schimmetje
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1104 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 16:35:47
April 22 2011 16:34 GMT
#159
On April 23 2011 00:36 CidO wrote:
I still find it funny how people were shootin' holes in the possability that we very well could see heart of the swarm this calendar year, let alone this fiscal year (2012 march ends 2011 fiscal). Blizz has the engine in place, the MP in place, introducing units to MP won't be hard, just to balance, then you have single player, the infrastructure is already there.

Blizzard wants 18 months between game-expansion-expansion, but Activision wants 3 titles released this year according to bobby Kotick and the shareholders:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Some things have changed, but Brazil(for sure) and Japanese(iirc?) wow is coming true, D3 has all signs at Q4, leaving X1 at the same time except, I would expect one of them to be christmas 2011, and the other to be jan/feb/march 2012.


Actually, didn't Blizzard state back in February there's no games coming out of them this year? And between the first peek at WoL and it's release we had a year long period.

Not that I don't want you to be right, even if you lay on the usual Activision stuff a bit hard, but I'm doubting it. Guess we'll see
Change to MY nostalgia? UNACCEPTABLE! Monkey paaaw!
Greem
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
730 Posts
April 22 2011 16:34 GMT
#160
On April 23 2011 01:30 tsuxiit wrote:
SC2Phoenix is probably Blizzard's app/market/system for buying maps and character name changes and other crap like that.


They just could add most of that in Battle net acount management . Dont undestimate suprises from Blizzard. Could be game based on starcraft , aka Ghost reborn.
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