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aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
May 30 2011 16:17 GMT
#921
I think it is extremely likely that many of the scenes are actually from different cutscenes blended together to create an action packed, and probably non-canonical series of events. Just look at the WoL launch trailer, paints a completely different storyline.
Sentient
Profile Joined April 2010
United States437 Posts
May 30 2011 16:30 GMT
#922
On May 30 2011 22:24 Bloodash wrote:
WOL story was really terrible, I mean, gather an artifact and use it on the bad guy stories are so 1996, I can't believe Bliz actually lowered themselves by doing that, its just super generic.

Well, not only that, but

(spoiler tag for the 1 person on TL who hasn't finished the campaign)
+ Show Spoiler +
by unzergifying Kerrigan, they got rid of (in my opinion) their only interesting character, and certainly one of the most interesting video game villains. I hope that trailer hints at a retcon or something because the end of WoL was terrible.
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
May 30 2011 16:36 GMT
#923
On May 31 2011 01:30 Sentient wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 22:24 Bloodash wrote:
WOL story was really terrible, I mean, gather an artifact and use it on the bad guy stories are so 1996, I can't believe Bliz actually lowered themselves by doing that, its just super generic.

Well, not only that, but

(spoiler tag for the 1 person on TL who hasn't finished the campaign)
+ Show Spoiler +
by unzergifying Kerrigan, they got rid of (in my opinion) their only interesting character, and certainly one of the most interesting video game villains. I hope that trailer hints at a retcon or something because the end of WoL was terrible.

Tychus findlay was awesome. Its sad that people think WoL was terrible when really it was great.
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
May 30 2011 16:37 GMT
#924
On May 31 2011 01:17 aloT wrote:
I think it is extremely likely that many of the scenes are actually from different cutscenes blended together to create an action packed, and probably non-canonical series of events. Just look at the WoL launch trailer, paints a completely different storyline.


There sad music teaser showing Kerrigan being left to fend for herself and the guilt that Raynor had was insanely good and the music made it seem like it was gonna be more dramatic while going through the single player. I was very disappointed with the lack of drama aside from + Show Spoiler +
the part where you had to survive until everyone was dead as protoss
. That teaser personally ruined the campaign for me just on that fact alone. More drama please Blizzard!
Vexas
Profile Joined November 2010
United States98 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 16:43:50
May 30 2011 16:41 GMT
#925
On May 31 2011 00:49 Telenil wrote:
Show nested quote +
she'd done medical exams on spectres and came to the conclusion that "the spectres aren't more prone to go insane and go on murder sprees than anyone else", and that "Nova was lying."
To be honest, I stopped believing Hanson the moment I heard the Spectres quotes. If they are not more "prone to aberrant behavior than ordinary people", I wouldn't want to live in the terran society. Though not all people who plant bombs are psychopaths, these ones certainly are.

Feels strange to see Spectres alongside Dominion troops. The one shown from 05 to 08 is clearly a spectre, it has both the mask and the blue markings, but two people in a smilar suit fall over at 04.

Why spectres though? All known spectres are as hostile against to Dominion as Raynor is, and the project is said to have been terminated. Tosh's storyline is also said to be the "most cannonical" one - so why would they fight Raynor at all? Similarly, Nova is the one who hunted them down, trapped them and really tried hard to prevent Raynor from releasing them. It would be really weird to see them agree to team with each other.
I suppose there could be some "double renegade" spectres who sided with the Dominion, but using ghosts would have felt more natural.


I do not believe those are spectres at all. Spectres in the campaign all had black suits with red markings while ghosts are always all white with blue. Just compare Tosh and Nova's suits. The masks definitely resemble the masks of spectres I will certainly give you that but besides that they look like normal ghosts to me. Anyone else have more proof of them being spectres because honestly right now it makes no sense as the above quote says XD
"Sooner or later we're all someone's dog" ~Angua
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 30 2011 16:42 GMT
#926
On May 31 2011 01:36 WniO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 01:30 Sentient wrote:
On May 30 2011 22:24 Bloodash wrote:
WOL story was really terrible, I mean, gather an artifact and use it on the bad guy stories are so 1996, I can't believe Bliz actually lowered themselves by doing that, its just super generic.

Well, not only that, but

(spoiler tag for the 1 person on TL who hasn't finished the campaign)
+ Show Spoiler +
by unzergifying Kerrigan, they got rid of (in my opinion) their only interesting character, and certainly one of the most interesting video game villains. I hope that trailer hints at a retcon or something because the end of WoL was terrible.

Tychus findlay was awesome. Its sad that people think WoL was terrible when really it was great.


There were not enough surprise. You could tell the end like right in the middle of the game.
BW wasn't like that. The all Terran and Zerg campaign from BW were awsome in that regard, lot of betrayals and surprise you wasn't able to expect.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Nik0
Profile Joined April 2010
Uruguay460 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 16:59:16
May 30 2011 16:59 GMT
#927
Its the 31th on KR time i demand HotS info
kusu
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden440 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 17:02:06
May 30 2011 17:01 GMT
#928
ohshitohshitohshit.. 1...day....left..... so intense %>

GIEF MORE INFO!
Expa bör man annars dör man! A game withouth me, is a game not worth winning!
voltaic
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1071 Posts
May 30 2011 18:30 GMT
#929
16 hours left...
Catman789
Profile Joined April 2011
United States12 Posts
May 30 2011 21:16 GMT
#930
im gonna cry if there are no changes to multiplayer, its the only reason i play SC. campaign is great in an RTS, but like any game, I think that multiplayer is the meat of the game, giving the most variety and replay value. :D
Fym
Profile Joined October 2009
United Kingdom189 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 21:19:45
May 30 2011 21:18 GMT
#931
seems legit
If you wanna be a good chef, you dont make fish n chips.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
May 30 2011 21:24 GMT
#932
On May 31 2011 01:42 Noocta wrote:
You could tell the end like right in the middle of the game. BW wasn't like that.

Because you were 12 man, just like me.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
May 30 2011 21:28 GMT
#933
On May 31 2011 06:24 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 01:42 Noocta wrote:
You could tell the end like right in the middle of the game. BW wasn't like that.

Because you were 12 man, just like me.


lol good point. just like pokemon games, its not that WoL was worse than BW, its just that everyone has matured.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
May 30 2011 21:28 GMT
#934
On May 31 2011 01:42 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 01:36 WniO wrote:
On May 31 2011 01:30 Sentient wrote:
On May 30 2011 22:24 Bloodash wrote:
WOL story was really terrible, I mean, gather an artifact and use it on the bad guy stories are so 1996, I can't believe Bliz actually lowered themselves by doing that, its just super generic.

Well, not only that, but

(spoiler tag for the 1 person on TL who hasn't finished the campaign)
+ Show Spoiler +
by unzergifying Kerrigan, they got rid of (in my opinion) their only interesting character, and certainly one of the most interesting video game villains. I hope that trailer hints at a retcon or something because the end of WoL was terrible.

Tychus findlay was awesome. Its sad that people think WoL was terrible when really it was great.


There were not enough surprise. You could tell the end like right in the middle of the game.
BW wasn't like that. The all Terran and Zerg campaign from BW were awsome in that regard, lot of betrayals and surprise you wasn't able to expect.

yep I never saw kerrigan betraying the protoss in the BW protoss campaign coming, oh no

nor did I see Durans betrayal from a mile away

and if you had told me razhagal was under kerrigans influence I would not have believed it

+ Show Spoiler +
im kidding


only good moments in the story were when mengsk betrayed kerrigan and when you found out kerrigan had been zerged, imo... also tassadars sacrifice
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
VillageBC
Profile Joined January 2011
322 Posts
May 30 2011 21:33 GMT
#935
I don't need to be surprised to enjoy the story as long as it's told well.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
May 30 2011 21:34 GMT
#936
On May 31 2011 06:28 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 06:24 0neder wrote:
On May 31 2011 01:42 Noocta wrote:
You could tell the end like right in the middle of the game. BW wasn't like that.

Because you were 12 man, just like me.


lol good point. just like pokemon games, its not that WoL was worse than BW, its just that everyone has matured.

No... I actually went back and played throughout the sc1 campaign after playing WOL just to make sure I wasn't falling for nostalgia. And while the gameplay is pretty terrible boring, the plot is still leaps and bounds better.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
May 30 2011 21:34 GMT
#937
On May 31 2011 06:33 VillageBC wrote:
I don't need to be surprised to enjoy the story as long as it's told well.

I dont need a story as long as it has good gameplay :/

maybe thats just me though, I know a lot of people play SP strictly for the story and MP strictly for the gameplay
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
SonKiE
Profile Joined March 2010
United States167 Posts
May 30 2011 21:37 GMT
#938
who started the rumor that 31st was when we get info? without proof its just as good saying the rapture is happening sometimes this month. perhaps it was someone on the forums saying oh hey guys i know someome who works at blizzard
country
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 21:47:21
May 30 2011 21:41 GMT
#939
On May 31 2011 06:28 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 06:24 0neder wrote:
On May 31 2011 01:42 Noocta wrote:
You could tell the end like right in the middle of the game. BW wasn't like that.

Because you were 12 man, just like me.


lol good point. just like pokemon games, its not that WoL was worse than BW, its just that everyone has matured.

This is so extremely wrong. I play through SC+BW campaigns regularly at least once a year, and they always blow me away by how well done they are. WoL campaign has the story of a dumb kids show while SC+BW is a mature space epic, not to mention that the gameplay in the WoL campaign is so abstract. I've only played the WoL campaign once, and will never touch it again while I will continue playing SC+BW regularly.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3099 Posts
May 30 2011 21:44 GMT
#940
To be honest, I stopped believing Hanson the moment I heard the Spectres quotes. If they are not more "prone to aberrant behavior than ordinary people", I wouldn't want to live in the terran society. Though not all people who plant bombs are psychopaths, these ones certainly are.

Feels strange to see Spectres alongside Dominion troops. The one shown from 05 to 08 is clearly a spectre, it has both the mask and the blue markings, but two people in a smilar suit fall over at 04.

Why spectres though? All known spectres are as hostile against to Dominion as Raynor is, and the project is said to have been terminated. Tosh's storyline is also said to be the "most cannonical" one - so why would they fight Raynor at all? Similarly, Nova is the one who hunted them down, trapped them and really tried hard to prevent Raynor from releasing them. It would be really weird to see them agree to team with each other.
I suppose there could be some "double renegade" spectres who sided with the Dominion, but using ghosts would have felt more natural.


The Spectre Program was originally a Dominion project. Tosh went renegade, taking most of the project with him, and Nova claims that it was shut down completely afterwards, but we really just have her word for it at the moment. And there are hints in the game that point the other way, such as the text that pops up when you click on the Spectres in the Hyperion Armory: "There is speculation that the Dominion still uses Spectres in a number of operations, despite the ostensible shutdown of the program."

So it's perfectly possible that there are still Dominion Spectres out there. Really, I don't see why the Dominion WOULDN'T use them; they're obviously controllable enough to work for Tosh and later Raynor, and they're obviously powerful. It would be rather uncharacteristic of the Dominion to just give up on something with so much potential.
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