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Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
May 24 2011 15:16 GMT
#621
unupgraded Ling vs zealot battle should be 3 lings beat a zealot, not 4 lings (buff ling damage or attack speed)

I would want to see hydras as a tier 3 unit that isnt super slow off creep and roach should have a tier 2 lurker morph with a tier 3 range upgrade for that 9 range or become zergs "dragoons".

I want to see Queens included as a unit to be made from larvae but keep the hatchery spawn and two mutations that makes them become stronger and better as you upgrade between lair(speed upgrade and a +energy on spawn) and hive(damage or armor upgrade) so that while zerg hatcheries might be tied to the queen, those queens can also serve other purposes as cost effective combat units once lategame hits.

i want to see mutalisk able to mutate to broodlord and the corruptor become more versatile..

But ultimately they probably wont do any of that.
i just dont want to see them add the lurker and call it a days work. This is blizzard and i hold them to a higher standard. ;P
"Mudkip"
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
May 24 2011 15:18 GMT
#622
will they reveal new units that could find their way into the multiplayer-mode?
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Mr.Pyro
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Denmark959 Posts
May 24 2011 15:18 GMT
#623
On May 25 2011 00:16 Madkipz wrote:
unupgraded Ling vs zealot battle should be 3 lings beat a zealot, not 4 lings (buff ling damage or attack speed)


Why should 75 minerals beat 100 without micro?
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ChowChillaCharlie
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden677 Posts
May 24 2011 15:18 GMT
#624
On May 24 2011 23:55 MindRush wrote:
wowz, imagine the madness when the news will actually come true.
1st official movie, first campaign 1st person presentation, first battle report where david kim pawns some noob developer.

Im hoping it's gonna be something like the Brood War intro, can't be much more epic.
DARKHYDRA
Profile Joined September 2006
United States303 Posts
May 24 2011 15:22 GMT
#625
Why would you want a tier 1 unit at tier 3? They're already bad at tier 2.

Also now that you mention it, instead of morphong broodlords from mutas, I want the guardian back. Spawning broodlings doesn't warrant its cost increase IMO.
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
May 24 2011 15:22 GMT
#626
It seriously needs to introduce an unit that isn't just amove.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 24 2011 15:23 GMT
#627
On May 25 2011 00:16 Madkipz wrote:
unupgraded Ling vs zealot battle should be 3 lings beat a zealot, not 4 lings (buff ling damage or attack speed)

I would want to see hydras as a tier 3 unit that isnt super slow off creep and roach should have a tier 2 lurker morph with a tier 3 range upgrade for that 9 range or become zergs "dragoons".

I want to see Queens included as a unit to be made from larvae but keep the hatchery spawn and two mutations that makes them become stronger and better as you upgrade between lair(speed upgrade and a +energy on spawn) and hive(damage or armor upgrade) so that while zerg hatcheries might be tied to the queen, those queens can also serve other purposes as cost effective combat units once lategame hits.

i want to see mutalisk able to mutate to broodlord and the corruptor become more versatile..

But ultimately they probably wont do any of that.
i just dont want to see them add the lurker and call it a days work. This is blizzard and i hold them to a higher standard. ;P



i know its just a joke post but i cant even see any logic behind your ideas :l
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 15:39:07
May 24 2011 15:26 GMT
#628
On May 25 2011 00:18 Mr.Pyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 00:16 Madkipz wrote:
unupgraded Ling vs zealot battle should be 3 lings beat a zealot, not 4 lings (buff ling damage or attack speed)


Why should 75 minerals beat 100 without micro?


because races are different and the zerg has already spent 100 minerals on 4 zerglings. 4 zealots with their backs towards the wall or guarding a choke can hold ALOT more zerglings than they should because of this scewered ratio that blizzard made for sc2.

On May 25 2011 00:23 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 00:16 Madkipz wrote:
unupgraded Ling vs zealot battle should be 3 lings beat a zealot, not 4 lings (buff ling damage or attack speed)

I would want to see hydras as a tier 3 unit that isnt super slow off creep and roach should have a tier 2 lurker morph with a tier 3 range upgrade for that 9 range or become zergs "dragoons".

I want to see Queens included as a unit to be made from larvae but keep the hatchery spawn and two mutations that makes them become stronger and better as you upgrade between lair(speed upgrade and a +energy on spawn) and hive(damage or armor upgrade) so that while zerg hatcheries might be tied to the queen, those queens can also serve other purposes as cost effective combat units once lategame hits.

i want to see mutalisk able to mutate to broodlord and the corruptor become more versatile..

But ultimately they probably wont do any of that.
i just dont want to see them add the lurker and call it a days work. This is blizzard and i hold them to a higher standard. ;P



i know its just a joke post but i cant even see any logic behind your ideas :l


logic? its just a wishlist :S. Mutas would have a lategame use outside of harassment, Hydras and roaches could both be shooting up and not overlap (roach as tier 1 AA hydra as tier 3 AA), queens as a multipurpose high hp combat unit with the morphs they promoted in early reveals of wings of liberty (queen got nerfed heavily since then). I can see why you would be confused but its just tidbits ive picked up and feel would improve zerg for me.

(WOULD NEVER LOOSE A GAME AGAIN LOL OP HAHAHA).
"Mudkip"
kcbgoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland156 Posts
May 24 2011 15:30 GMT
#629
When is this event happening?
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
May 24 2011 15:31 GMT
#630
Sure, I want my Phoenix to be able to transform into a Carrier too
DARKHYDRA
Profile Joined September 2006
United States303 Posts
May 24 2011 15:34 GMT
#631
On May 25 2011 00:31 Dommk wrote:
Sure, I want my Phoenix to be able to transform into a Carrier too


Did corsairs ever do this in SCBW?... cmon dood.
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 15:36:59
May 24 2011 15:35 GMT
#632
On May 25 2011 00:31 Dommk wrote:
Sure, I want my Phoenix to be able to transform into a Carrier too


thats silly, phenixes can negate 6-8 special units from a battlefield (siege tanks, ghosts, etc) and work alot better than the mutalisk in smaller numbers when directly supporting an army. id say that gives them more purpose for equal supply. Id just like for mutas to have some utility once lategame hits so you dont have to suicide them to replenish with corruptor and then mutate into a broodlord. Its perfect wishlist logic. Mutas also did this in broodwar btw ;P
"Mudkip"
voltaic
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1071 Posts
May 24 2011 15:37 GMT
#633
guys, isn't this a single player thread about the campaign of hots? ._.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
May 24 2011 15:44 GMT
#634
On May 25 2011 00:34 DARKHYDRA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 00:31 Dommk wrote:
Sure, I want my Phoenix to be able to transform into a Carrier too


Did corsairs ever do this in SCBW?... cmon dood.

Well it doesn't have to morph, it can be like Voltron

"Ready to form Carrier! Activate Warp Field! Graviton Catapault Connected! Plasma shields up! Interceptors are go!"

"Lets go, Great fleet!" *dies to stimmed marines*
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 24 2011 15:53 GMT
#635
wow that would be evil if 3 lings could beat up 1 zealot easy (they can alreay so). I mean 2 lings beat up a marine badly. Anyway i hope they make the t1 marine that way that he can fight even with 2 lings (atleast 1 ling lost unmicroed ;o ) and that 2 marines can fight 1 zealot without micro. Because protoss units have always costed more for less ?

Hehe funny posts all around here. I would love if they troll zergs and only add units for terran and toss in mulitplayer, and then 1 week later add the zerg units in a sneak patch zergs deserve this.

Anyway when there are infos people will make 3 new threads anyway so I'll just wait for those >.<
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
May 24 2011 15:54 GMT
#636
On May 24 2011 10:39 Silverion wrote:
I just want to see one thing: LURKERS.

I never really understood this, I mean the only logic for: "we want the lurker back" is that they were good in Brood War. I honestly don't believe that lurkers would be good in SC2, I mean, now you have things like marauders for Terran which should be able to chew up lurkers--as for Protoss, now that we have things like colossus stalker balls and immortals the splash damage of the lurker would be extremely useless. I mean the only thing that kept Protoss from just massing goons versus lurkers was DS, I just can't see lurkers being useful without DS--the only thing new for Zerg they bring to the table is a better detection threat versus the other races.

I understand why people miss the awesome power of the lurker, but I think they fail to realize that the context of SC2 is different from Brood War; just because it was good in Brood War doesn't mean it will be good in Starcraft II.
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 17:49:51
May 24 2011 15:59 GMT
#637
On May 25 2011 00:30 kcbgoku wrote:
When is this event happening?


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Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
May 24 2011 16:03 GMT
#638
On May 25 2011 00:54 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 10:39 Silverion wrote:
I just want to see one thing: LURKERS.

I never really understood this, I mean the only logic for: "we want the lurker back" is that they were good in Brood War. I honestly don't believe that lurkers would be good in SC2, I mean, now you have things like marauders for Terran which should be able to chew up lurkers--as for Protoss, now that we have things like colossus stalker balls and immortals the splash damage of the lurker would be extremely useless. I mean the only thing that kept Protoss from just massing goons versus lurkers was DS, I just can't see lurkers being useful without DS--the only thing new for Zerg they bring to the table is a better detection threat versus the other races.

I understand why people miss the awesome power of the lurker, but I think they fail to realize that the context of SC2 is different from Brood War; just because it was good in Brood War doesn't mean it will be good in Starcraft II.

Indeed, people are looking at some of the older units with Rose-tinted glasses and failing to realize how they would actually fit in Starcraft 2 as it is now.
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
May 24 2011 16:06 GMT
#639
On May 25 2011 00:53 FeyFey wrote:
wow that would be evil if 3 lings could beat up 1 zealot easy (they can alreay so). I mean 2 lings beat up a marine badly. Anyway i hope they make the t1 marine that way that he can fight even with 2 lings (atleast 1 ling lost unmicroed ;o ) and that 2 marines can fight 1 zealot without micro. Because protoss units have always costed more for less ?

Hehe funny posts all around here. I would love if they troll zergs and only add units for terran and toss in mulitplayer, and then 1 week later add the zerg units in a sneak patch zergs deserve this.

Anyway when there are infos people will make 3 new threads anyway so I'll just wait for those >.<


How is it bad that 2 ling can beat one marine if 50 marines beat 100 lings?
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 16:08:40
May 24 2011 16:07 GMT
#640
On May 25 2011 00:53 FeyFey wrote:
wow that would be evil if 3 lings could beat up 1 zealot easy (they can alreay so). I mean 2 lings beat up a marine badly. Anyway i hope they make the t1 marine that way that he can fight even with 2 lings (atleast 1 ling lost unmicroed ;o ) and that 2 marines can fight 1 zealot without micro. Because protoss units have always costed more for less ?

Hehe funny posts all around here. I would love if they troll zergs and only add units for terran and toss in mulitplayer, and then 1 week later add the zerg units in a sneak patch zergs deserve this.

Anyway when there are infos people will make 3 new threads anyway so I'll just wait for those >.<


this is in low numbers, when that number grows the number of zerglings you will need to beat balls of the opposite units starts to grow (and the ratio always favours protoss or terran because of range or better efficiency or in laymans therms hp / damage per unit).

Its been mentioned since sc2 came out that sc2 lings are not broodwar lings. It is quite obvious that to be more effective in the later stages that they should be, but they are not and thats why you see baneling balls rollin and those are one time use only :/
"Mudkip"
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