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On April 15 2011 20:54 dtz wrote:
Basketball teams hack a shaq. Aim for a player with 3 or more fouls so they will get foul-out. Harass the hell out of Dwight Howard so he get techical fouls.
Football(Soccer) team run out the clock. Do strategic foulings. "Park the bus to protect a 1-0 lead" Mourinho's Inter purposely did not want the ball against Barcelona because it is easier to defend that way and have like 20 percent possession the whole game
Note that these are element of the games allowed by the rules and structure of the game. Just like MC's proxy gate was. Not something illegal like performance enhancing drugs. It was not like MC was stream-cheating/maphacking/listening to the commentators. These guys do what it takes to win within the framework of the game regardless of how entertaining it is for the spectator and that is why they are appreciated. And i don't see football and basketball losing popularity any time soon.
And those teams are hated by opponent's fans and more often than not by neutral fans who want to be entertained. Most normal thing in the world  Those sports do not lose the popularity because there is enough of entertaining play to outweigh the boring/annoying stuff. Competitive sports have to balance entertainment with competition to remain alive, but it is not the job of players to make it so. Players should play to win, and if the game/sport is well designed it will produce entertaining results, otherwise it will die.
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On April 15 2011 21:49 Hollis wrote:
LOL MC, you can dish out the BM but you can't take it?
Do what you can to win and don't feel sorry for it, but when you're a cocky SOB expect to get some hate from those who are rubbed the wrong way by your showboating.
Can't take it? He took it quite well. He simply explained his thought process behind the decision to 2gate, to show that he wasn't just blindly gambling as people were accusing him of doing. What about that indicates that he "can't take it"?
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Play to win>caring about trolls/white ra fanboys
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On April 15 2011 21:18 Promises wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 20:30 pyro19 wrote:
Executes a Strat Perfectly - Check
Read Whitera like a book - Check
Shows Immense Balls to execute a Now or Never Cheese with 15,000$ on the Line - Check
Comes back from 2-0 Down - Check
But the game didn"t go past the 20 min game , so MC doesn"t deserve it.TL does my head in Somedays. The bias here is Ridiculous. This pretty much sums up my thoughts perfectly.
I agree, and since he read him perfectly, he did know that Whitera skipped the zealot so the cheese would have a high chance of success,
The tweet only shows that he cares about the foreign community I guess
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On April 15 2011 10:16 bibbaly wrote:
A win is a win no matter how dirty it seems to be. With money on the line, especially that much money, you have to exploit every weakness your opponent has.
There's nothing dirty about taking advantage of the fact that your opponent is consistently doing exactly the same thing.
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When you design a build there's a reason you test it against 9 pool, roach rush, two rax, 3 rax, proxy 2 gate, 4 gate. White-ra's build had a weakeness and MC killed him for it. In fact, if MC goes into a macro game with white-ra, since he skips the zealot, he is actually behind. So MC just noticed a weakness in the build and abused it. Abusing a build weakness with a proxy 2 gate is no different then abusing different builds with later timings
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Think about what would happen if cheese wasn't a viable strategy. Everyone would build 60 workers before they made their first unit.
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Yeah, I saw that last game, MC exactly countered what White-Ra was going to do. MC knew Ra wasn't going to get a zealot out. MC was able to just get a better read on his opponent over Ra over the course of the games. GG MC!
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On April 15 2011 21:38 mahO wrote:
I'm really not a "White Ra" fan, well i'm not anyone fan I guess except IdrA, this guy will always make me laugh in this polite scene, but MC got outplayed badly, and went for the cheese, of course it is valid, of course nobody can blame him for playing the win when 15k is on the line, but man this guy is cocky, he's not the best player at all, even if his fan club (=90% of the protoss) say so, he's a lot weaker than we might think. So yeah it's normal what he did, but man he's really annoying me with the "i'm sc2 god" attitude. This guy will fall, badly, and man i will laugh
MC lost 1st game cause of a lucky probe (and that was WhiteRa 4g vs 3 gate robo, which by MCs words should have been a loss anyway and yet he only lost cause WhiteRa got extremely lucky). He lost 2nd game cause he wanted to wait for blink even though pushing into the FEing WhiteRa would have done a lot more damage - no idea why he waited, considering he had the info.
That's not outplayed. Then used what is currently considered best play for PvP, 4gate, owned ra in 2 games and then owned him again by taking advantage of the gaping flaw in WhiteRa's game, predictability.
You dislike MC who's actually proven he's good but like Idra who just thinks he's good and got no results in months? Even though Idra is one of the few players in the world I think could beat MC in a BO5 atm, if he gets his head straight, WhiteRa isn't one of them.
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On April 15 2011 20:52 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 18:49 karpo wrote:On April 15 2011 18:45 Geo.Rion wrote:
Understandable? Sure, anti-climatic as shit? Absolutely yes, it's the 5th game, if you know your opponent does 1 thing and wanna take advantage of it with a boring allin, might as well do it the first or second set, it ruins the whole atmosphere of the deciding set, and as a PRO he should know that. Yeah cause winning isn't the main goal for a professional. Any professional sports player knows it's all about appeasing to the whiny fans... I really don't understand how this is even a argument. it s an opion smarty, not an argument. I dislike MC, not because he wants to win, his behaviour annoys me, his choice of builds annoy me. It is entertainmet, i have the right to hate on a football team which plays defense twice 90+5 minutes in the Champions league to pass with a combined score of 1-0 or 1-1 with scoring a goal on the hometeams field. They do it because they want money, it's understandable, but dont ask then all the viwers to support and like that team, because it managed to win. No, fans have the right to trash on play that they dislike, that's how it works.
yeah, but MC is not playing 1-0 or 1-1, he's playing for 5+ goals win with a very very very very effective way to score goals (win games)
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On April 15 2011 20:52 myasQo wrote:
Another proof that koreans can't beat europe with macro style.
dumbest thing i've read in so long. you're absolutely pathetic to bring something like that up. blind fanboyism at its best.
gogoMC!
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Why does MC feel the need to explain himself? He's literally the best starcraft 2 player in the world. (I guess tied with MVP ? since they both won GSL twice)
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bomber > mvp > naniwa > mc hahahahahaha
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All MC has to tweet is "I got 15000 problems, but money ain't one."
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If I was MC, I would have tweeted:
"Dear haters:
I won. Suck my chocolate salty balls. Nani-Nani-boo-boo bitches.
Love,
MC (the Kra-toss, God of Protoss, and the great I AM of Starcraft 2)"
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On April 15 2011 22:36 sandyph wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 20:52 Geo.Rion wrote:On April 15 2011 18:49 karpo wrote:On April 15 2011 18:45 Geo.Rion wrote:
Understandable? Sure, anti-climatic as shit? Absolutely yes, it's the 5th game, if you know your opponent does 1 thing and wanna take advantage of it with a boring allin, might as well do it the first or second set, it ruins the whole atmosphere of the deciding set, and as a PRO he should know that. Yeah cause winning isn't the main goal for a professional. Any professional sports player knows it's all about appeasing to the whiny fans... I really don't understand how this is even a argument. it s an opion smarty, not an argument. I dislike MC, not because he wants to win, his behaviour annoys me, his choice of builds annoy me. It is entertainmet, i have the right to hate on a football team which plays defense twice 90+5 minutes in the Champions league to pass with a combined score of 1-0 or 1-1 with scoring a goal on the hometeams field. They do it because they want money, it's understandable, but dont ask then all the viwers to support and like that team, because it managed to win. No, fans have the right to trash on play that they dislike, that's how it works. yeah, but MC is not playing 1-0 or 1-1, he's playing for 5+ goals win with a very very very very effective way to score goals (win games)
I think you did not understand what he was saying. By 1-0,1-1 play in football he means boring, not entertaining play. He finds MC's play boring and not entertaining ergo the comparison. The analogy was not based on defensiveness vs aggressiveness but on subjective boring vs entertaining. I personally also do not like MC's playstyle, although I found g5 actually well played and interesting compared to some other games he won (or even lost).
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On April 15 2011 22:41 Scrubington wrote:
Why does MC feel the need to explain himself? He's literally the best starcraft 2 player in the world. (I guess tied with MVP ? since they both won GSL twice)
dreamhack > code A
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On April 15 2011 22:50 eggs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 22:41 Scrubington wrote:
Why does MC feel the need to explain himself? He's literally the best starcraft 2 player in the world. (I guess tied with MVP ? since they both won GSL twice) dreamhack > code A
what does this comment even mean? how much thought went into it? why do people post without even thinking about what theyre trying to say. boggles my mind.
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People are flaming MC? I'm surprised actually, he played well and it was a good strategic move. A win is a win. Meh, haters gonna hate I guess.
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On April 15 2011 22:50 eggs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 22:41 Scrubington wrote:
Why does MC feel the need to explain himself? He's literally the best starcraft 2 player in the world. (I guess tied with MVP ? since they both won GSL twice) dreamhack > code A
People should get banned for this kind of stupidity. Really dude, really? 300 posts and you're still typing shit like this?
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