EPTThey are pro players, they play to win! Everyone who bmed would have cheesed their ass off if they could earn 15k. I'd cheese so hard and ask if you would like some wine with it. It wasn't a total risky cheese either he just countered how whitera played each game.
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
They are pro players, they play to win! Everyone who bmed would have cheesed their ass off if they could earn 15k. I'd cheese so hard and ask if you would like some wine with it. It wasn't a total risky cheese either he just countered how whitera played each game. | ||
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dormer
United States1314 Posts
On April 15 2011 18:45 Geo.Rion wrote: Understandable? Sure, anti-climatic as shit? Absolutely yes, it's the 5th game, if you know your opponent does 1 thing and wanna take advantage of it with a boring allin, might as well do it the first or second set, it ruins the whole atmosphere of the deciding set, and as a PRO he should know that. But.. He knew that White-Ra did the same thing in the first four games.. If he had done it in the first or second set, he wouldn't have known if White-Ra was doing it every game, and thus it would have been much more risky. | ||
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gm.tOSS
Germany898 Posts
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dakalro
Romania525 Posts
On April 15 2011 17:32 DarkRise wrote: You can't blame the fans and MC. Mc doing it for money and fans was mad for having a horrible ending (it was 2-2 and ended up with a cheese). Money is on the line, what do you expect? Well i also think the fans just didn't expect him to do that because of his overbearing arrogance but its the way he plays. I actually found it was one of the more entertaining series. Tied and so masterfully won by MC. The pro games aren't all in how they click, I'm sure there's plenty more that can click as fast/as well as them, there's more entertainment in how the actually make decisions since that's the one thing amateurs don't really do or have to do. Remember this was the final game of 3 series, 1 in Team WC, 3 in TSL, 5 in DH, MC didn't just cheese, he outplayed, in the entire sense of the word play when it comes to pro SC2 not just master league play. | ||
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Inex
Bulgaria443 Posts
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On April 15 2011 18:45 Geo.Rion wrote: Understandable? Sure, anti-climatic as shit? Absolutely yes, it's the 5th game, if you know your opponent does 1 thing and wanna take advantage of it with a boring allin, might as well do it the first or second set, it ruins the whole atmosphere of the deciding set, and as a PRO he should know that. It's not like if he didn't proxy gate we'd see amazing creative play. It is a PvP, almost everytime only thing you can see is 4gate and Colossus. He saw the opportunity, and went for it. It's legit. If WhiteRa wasn't making a zealot as he said, he should take advantage of it. This is his job, and money is on the line. The most amazing PvP I've watched was I think in Assembly game, Adelscott vs I think Naniwa(or HuK? can't remember) It was a game on Shakuras and Adelscott player brilliant, flanking the opposition Protoss in his own base and ending the game with double prong attacks. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
But it's just like for a kick boxer who is about to start a championship match,he studies his opponent and see that he has a bad,broken 2 times knee,so he aims for that knee in the match. Is it calculated?Yes.Will he get the title and the money if he do that?Probably yes.Is it fair to exploy it?Imo no. There's the difference.Imo players of MC's caliber shouldn't have to resort to such strategies,even if their life depends on it. | ||
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ket-
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Cade
Canada1420 Posts
On April 15 2011 18:45 Geo.Rion wrote: Understandable? Sure, anti-climatic as shit? Absolutely yes, it's the 5th game, if you know your opponent does 1 thing and wanna take advantage of it with a boring allin, might as well do it the first or second set, it ruins the whole atmosphere of the deciding set, and as a PRO he should know that. This train of thought is the most unreasonable, detrimental thing to esports. "PRO"s should play the game to WIN. NOT to please the crowd. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
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zeru
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Darkzler
Sweden58 Posts
 Not many people can pull off something like that in the last game. | ||
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juksan
Russian Federation83 Posts
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
It was bad enough when you all complained about the proxy in the heat of the moment in the LR thread. The fact that you mouthbreathers didn't understand why MC did it and why it was awesome I can accept, but when you actually berate MC for playing risky and stupid when he did the exact opposite you should all be banned from this community for life. Even if he HAD won without earning it that's still no excuse for acting like a bunch of self-entitled assholes. Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. Fucking hell. | ||
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snarl
Canada812 Posts
On April 15 2011 19:19 Steveling wrote: It's not that we say that it was a 50% gamble from MC.Ofc it wasn't,he scouted this weakness in white ra's play from the 4 previous games. But it's just like for a kick boxer who is about to start a championship match,he studies his opponent and see that he has a bad,broken 2 times knee,so he aims for that knee in the match. Is it calculated?Yes.Will he get the title and the money if he do that?Probably yes.Is it fair to exploy it?Imo no. There's the difference.Imo players of MC's caliber shouldn't have to resort to such strategies,even if their life depends on it. How is that in any way a fair comparison? It's more like MC notices that WR always lets his guard down when he goes for a kick so MC throws a punch when he sees it incoming, knocking WR out. WR chose his own build order and not to scout his own base. He only has himself to blame. | ||
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StarBrift
Sweden1761 Posts
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Inflexion
Canada560 Posts
On April 15 2011 19:19 Steveling wrote: It's not that we say that it was a 50% gamble from MC.Ofc it wasn't,he scouted this weakness in white ra's play from the 4 previous games. But it's just like for a kick boxer who is about to start a championship match,he studies his opponent and see that he has a bad,broken 2 times knee,so he aims for that knee in the match. Is it calculated?Yes.Will he get the title and the money if he do that?Probably yes.Is it fair to exploy it?Imo no. There's the difference.Imo players of MC's caliber shouldn't have to resort to such strategies,even if their life depends on it. Why "shouldn't he have to resort to such strategies, even if their life depends on it?' WTF. This thread makes my brain hurt. I have a feeling a lot of the people who are BMing him don't come from a BW background or have watched professional BW at all. It was the competitive and do-anything-to-win type of mentality that was why BW was and still is so successful in Korea (only true e-sports with a regular league + sponsorship, etc.). What is less entertaining than two dudes putting everything on the line, to scratch and claw to, putting their blood and pride on the line to become victorious? If you want a friendly match where they are lovely dovey with each other + be cute and have guaranteed macro games then you can pay these players to do a show match. On April 15 2011 19:19 Steveling wrote: There's the difference.Imo players of MC's caliber shouldn't have to resort to such strategies,even if their life depends on it. That's like saying the Lakers in the finals game 7 against Celtics and the score is in favor of the Lakers 80-60 with 2 mintues left in the game. And then Phil Jackson saying 'hey, let's make this a game to remember for the audience - who cares about our championship, ; we'll let the Celtics score 20 in a row on us without us playing defense; that way, we can give Kobe the ball for the last shot when it is 80-80 just to make it exciting'. According to your logic, I mean, Kobe will make the last shot for sure 100%, so might as well make it exciting for everyone. 'A player of his caliber shouldn't have to resort to running out the clock (because they have a 20 point lead) and playing lame, even if their life depends on it.' | ||
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Gnax
Sweden490 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On April 15 2011 19:41 StarBrift wrote: Who are these ridiculous fanboys that BM MC for winning games? God people need to calm down and take a good look at themselves sometimes. Should have seen the live report thread, it was not nice lol. Think about 10pages every 30sec of crap the moment the cheese started. | ||
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
Play to win. Baffling how anyone can hold that against anyone, baffling. | ||
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