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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220667 It has a poll to see if I should add a section for SotG and the Day[9] Daily. Please leave feedback on why not if you think we shouldn't. With an overwhelming YES vote (90%), I'll be adding this. I have the structure and 20 some dailies in right now, but it looks like crap, so I'm taking some time to make sure people don't barf after viewing the page. | ||
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
I've added in the first round of match detail information. When you see a match somewhere, you can now expand it to see more information. Right now the detail information is limited to Season, Date, Tournament Section, Division/Round, and Group when applicable. In this area is where I'll be adding other parameters on which to rate matches. Also, tell others about this site! If we can get more people using this, we'll have more accurate ratings, ratings for more matches, and hopefully if it gets big enough, I can get some people to help me on it so we can get new match information up sooner! | ||
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mardi
United States1164 Posts
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DerekJCEX
United States64 Posts
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Krehlmar
Sweden1149 Posts
Good initiative. | ||
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dvide
United Kingdom287 Posts
So it's a nice site and a great idea, because the sheer amount of matches and tournaments being played means that I just can't possibly watch everything. It's a great problem to have, but I'd find it really useful to be able to see what the best games were from each night. But right now I honestly find it too difficult to find yesterday's games. It should be right there as the default when you go to the site imo. Also I think the fact that this is so cumbersome right now also means that less games are being rated too, making the site less accurate overall for everybody. Who watches a cool game and then wants to go through the trial and error process of finding the correct division in order to rate it? It should be right there, available to rate straight away when you visit the site. So when I watch a cool game like NesTea vs sC I can just go to the site and click on 5. I'm not saying you should replace the views you already have. They're still useful, but they're more suited towards historical records. We just need more views and an appropriate default view, which I think should be a list of the most recent games (even possibly sub-sorted by the rating too now that I think of it). Imagine being able to look at a list of the highest rated games from yesterday spanning across all tournaments; that would be super useful I think! | ||
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
Added last 20 matches played to home page. ** Found a visual designer to work with me on this, so sometime in the next month or two (hopefully much soooner) you can expect a huge visual overhaul. ** It's been in the works for a while, but I pounded it out today for you dvide. <3 Still needs some visual work though. | ||
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LotsofLuck
United States62 Posts
On May 09 2011 11:53 Koibu0 wrote: Update Added last 20 matches played to home page. ** Found a visual designer to work with me on this, so sometime in the next month or two (hopefully much soooner) you can expect a huge visual overhaul. ** It's been in the works for a while, but I pounded it out today for you dvide. <3 Still needs some visual work though. Great, looking forward, thanks for all your hard work! Hopefully you can make it more automated so you don't have to do all the work, but I really appreciate what you have done so far! | ||
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dvide
United Kingdom287 Posts
On May 09 2011 11:53 Koibu0 wrote: Update Added last 20 matches played to home page. ** Found a visual designer to work with me on this, so sometime in the next month or two (hopefully much soooner) you can expect a huge visual overhaul. ** It's been in the works for a while, but I pounded it out today for you dvide. <3 Still needs some visual work though. Hey thanks man  looks cool though the up & down matches aren't yet there listed. Is it automated? Still that was something like what I was thinking. Hope I didn't sound condescending. I just wanted to be as convincing as possible that it would be a good feature <3 | ||
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
On May 09 2011 22:24 dvide wrote: Hey thanks man looks cool though the up & down matches aren't yet there listed. Is it automated? Still that was something like what I was thinking. Hope I didn't sound condescending. I just wanted to be as convincing as possible that it would be a good feature <3Things will show up automatically in the last 20 list. The only issue we might have is the logic says, "Show 20 games, ordered by most recent, with a date that is less than today". So, when an up and down match is played, its on the 15th (lets say). But that really means it airs on the 14th for us, but wont show up until the 16th... if that made any sense. They'll be there. | ||
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dvide
United Kingdom287 Posts
On May 10 2011 00:38 Koibu0 wrote: Things will show up automatically in the last 20 list. The only issue we might have is the logic says, "Show 20 games, ordered by most recent, with a date that is less than today". So, when an up and down match is played, its on the 15th (lets say). But that really means it airs on the 14th for us, but wont show up until the 16th... if that made any sense. They'll be there. Oh right I see. Maybe in that case it would be wise to store the times of the games too, rather than just the date. So then you could order by 'less than now' rather than 'less than today', with an appropriate time zone conversion going on. The only issue with that I'm thinking is that people could start rating the games at the moment they start rather than after they've ended. So if the GSL has 4 matches in one day, then at the scheduled time of the broadcast people could start rating the very last match of the day which obviously wouldn't have even started yet, let alone ended. So perhaps if the games were automatically listed but offset by a few hours to stop that sort of abuse, but also with a way for an admin account (i.e. you) to manually flag each game as being finished if you're around at the time. And then maybe you can find other trusted people to help you out with that task too, so that more often than not the games will be listed very soon after they're finished (and the worst case scenario would only be a few hours delay). And to make this job easier for the admins, they would have a different default view from normal accounts which would list all the games, including those ones that have started (i.e. date & time is less than now) but are not yet flagged as finished (i.e. it's still before the automatic time offset). And each of these unfinished games would have a simple button for admins that they just have to click in order to flag the game as being over. So then all the admins would need to do is to visit the website and click 'finished' if they're watching live, and spectators who are watching live can also just visit the page and click their rating. These same admins could also help you out with adding new match-ups and new tournaments to the schedule. Forgive me, I'm just thinking out loud. I don't know if you already have other admins helping you | ||
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
Before today will have to be good enough for now. If you really want to see today's matches, it's not too terribly hard to find them. | ||
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
Added State of the game. Added Weapon of Choice Added Day[9] Dailies I wont be adding all the episodes back the beginning for all these shows. I may add older dailies, but only new SotG and WoC from where we are now. | ||
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pingy[wen]
United States157 Posts
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
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LotsofLuck
United States62 Posts
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
On May 11 2011 19:49 LotsofLuck wrote: The buttons on the left side of the screen, with "Add Show, Add Player, Add Match", is this to cut down on the number of submissions you have to do manually? How is that going to work, exactly? You should not be seeing that.... wtf? That's supposed to be for admin's only. [edit] Fixed. It would be bad if people started adding random stuff. I mean, no serious harm, but it'd create a lot of clean up for me. Thanks for bringing that up. | ||
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LotsofLuck
United States62 Posts
On May 12 2011 01:20 Koibu0 wrote: You should not be seeing that.... wtf? That's supposed to be for admin's only. [edit] Fixed. It would be bad if people started adding random stuff. I mean, no serious harm, but it'd create a lot of clean up for me. Thanks for bringing that up. Sure no problem. I was up pretty late last night so I wasn't sure if I was dreaming it. Although it does bring up a interesting idea. Until you get the system running more automated, it is possible that you can have other people helping you write up the lists for the players/games/matches? It does seem like a lot of work to do correctly the first time...but it's probably best if you're the one setting up the official lists. I don't know if there's an intermediate solution until you get things fully automated. For example, I'd be crazy enough to go through the past Day[9] daily s and writing up the descriptions.... | ||
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Koibu0
United States513 Posts
On May 12 2011 02:56 LotsofLuck wrote: Sure no problem. I was up pretty late last night so I wasn't sure if I was dreaming it. Although it does bring up a interesting idea. Until you get the system running more automated, it is possible that you can have other people helping you write up the lists for the players/games/matches? It does seem like a lot of work to do correctly the first time...but it's probably best if you're the one setting up the official lists. I don't know if there's an intermediate solution until you get things fully automated. For example, I'd be crazy enough to go through the past Day[9] daily s and writing up the descriptions.... I'm quite excited for the day when I have other people to help me out on this, but right now I keep changing so much of the back end that it doesn't make sense yet to add on another person. Once things stabilize in a few months, then I might be ready to get some trusted people to help me out. Right now, my biggest priorities are: Visual redesign User preferences User generated match info 1) I've been talking with about a dozen different designers, and will be getting the first round of sample work from them on friday (those that I didn't scare off). 2) For user preferences, I need to find some time where I don't have anything else going on so I can sit down and pound it out in one setting. 3) For the user generated match info (other parameters on which to rate matches), I'm a little stuck in the "what would work best" stage and really need some feedback, but it doesn't look like people want to give it  | ||
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