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Let me start by saying that I don't condone in any way cheesing, especially to the extreme that I took it that week. I don't play like this.
I had taken an extended break before the lockout of season 1. I started the week needing to burn up 1840 bonus pool. That's a lot of games.
I crunched some numbers: there's absolutely no way I'd have enough time to play that many real games in one week.
I wanted a better emblem for the season.
Solution? Fast games. 6 pools(7 vs zerg).
What did I learn? It works amazingly.
**NOTE** The following percentages are based on master's 1500 through 3300-3400 players. There is a wall you hit shortly after where the percentages drop largely. Terran to about 2-5%, Zerg is about the same, and Protoss to around 55-65%.
Win ratio vs Terran: ~15-20%
Win ratio vs Zerg: ~65-75%
Win ratio vs Protoss: ~85-95%
My MMR at the end sat at at around 3800-3900. I fought a few "e-famous" people including Flabulous, Kiwikaki, and VTWhiplash (to be fair I had no idea who this guy was until I saw him on the Dallas stream a few days ago...and again to be fair I still don't).
What are your thoughts on 6pooling at high levels of play?
You can find the replay pack here:
6-7 pool replay pack
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Anything that wins that high of a % is viable, although I would learn a different ZvT allin like baneling bust.
Cheese is part of the game, if anything more people should cheese / do refined cheese/timing attacks because overall it will help ladder players test their builds more anyway.
It's a big flaw that NA players don't refine timing attacks / cheese because it just helps everyone, including macro players who have to actually execute their "standard" builds better / react better to cheese.
If anything it exemplifies how "soft" (terrible) NA ladder / non top top players is/are.
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That's pretty hilarious. Not sure why you'd want a replay pack, though.
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do the protoss players get mad at you? I guess i should do this more since I'm in gold and 99% of protoss 4 warpgate
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My ZvZ strat for a while was 7pool just because I find that matchup rather frustrating. I've since changed my strat because playing what seems to be a coinflip (I can win or my opponent can win, all depending on the build he chooses at the start) was further frustrating.
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Protoss players got absolutely pissed(most), and I don't blame them.
That VTWhiplash guy's brain exploded.
The replay pack is more to see the BM that people portray or if people want to learn how to stop it. It includes all the games I lost as well.
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Funny...but sad at the same time......(im toss)
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I played a guy like this yesterday. He 6pooled me with all his drones + bad micro so I checked his matchlist to how he got his MMR that high and I saw he 6pooled every game. Shows how easy the NA ladder can be...
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I can imagine protoss especially having a hard time on 4 player maps as the chance is pretty big that you're gonna scout it too late to react properly.
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yo which game is whiplash
:D
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Zergs need to be 6pooling way more often.
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If a Protoss player is in the top 400 and hasn't learned how to safeguard themselves from 6pool, they deserve to lose.
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6 pooling is a great way to piss somebody off. I was once 6 pooled 3 times in a row, losing them all. That made me so furious that the next 20 games all I did was 6 pool, 6 rax and proxy gate. Didn't work out very well for me though.
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how do you even check your mmr?
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I always 10 gate in PvZ because of this
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On April 11 2011 07:21 rottenpotato wrote:
Protoss players got absolutely pissed(most), and I don't blame them.
That VTWhiplash guy's brain exploded.
The replay pack is more to see the BM that people portray or if people want to learn how to stop it. It includes all the games I lost as well.
Lol ya I tend to get pretty angry when I lose to cheese. I am much more experienced vs 6 pool now though, so I challenge you to a 6 pool rematch whenever! My rage is never a personal attack of hatred, just me venting my frustration.
(also blizz should make a spawning pool require 2 overlords, dustin browder's excuse for keeping 6 pool in the game is that they want the player to be on the edge of their seat from the start of the game which is some BS)
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On April 11 2011 07:24 Pokebunny wrote:
yo which game is whiplash
:D
I'm not sure 
I took all the replays for that week and removed the 3-4 Zealot Frenzy games I played for fun. There might be a couple real games in there too (I started playing vs Terrans towards the end because the chance of loss with a 6pool was too great).
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probably the best and yes i dont enjoy doign it but sometimes 6 pooling a toss is fun if ur fursturated
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