i love the marine vs baneling video the most. this kind of illustrates a point i've been trying to make that banelings are very easy to micro effectively but they are very limited. they are essentially micro capped while the skill ceiling on marines is limitless which can be very frustrating as a zerg player.

IoF

Australia27 Posts

April 09 2011 14:21 GMT

#491

I'd like to see the automation bot affecting both the baneling player, and the marine player, the baneling split i think could have been more effective in an ideal situation.

StUfF

Australia1437 Posts

April 09 2011 14:33 GMT

#492

Sentries vs Roaches! How powerful are perfect forcefields.
Vikings? Kiting and/or landing/lifting micro
Banshee cloaking shenanigans? Using banshee to uncloak/cloak to eat shots?
Ravens? Perfect Seeker missiles or perfectly kiting them.
Blink Stalkers.
Muta micro. Splitting for Thors, attack and fade vs marines.
Colossus + Void Prism? Drop play in general.
The ling AI with banelings would be pretty cool.
Crazy stuff with Phoenix?
Perfect 3 beam forever Void rays.
Killing DTs with no detection?

Coolwhip

927 Posts

April 09 2011 14:37 GMT

#493

Awesome video.

Now I will be disappointed if Idra or Dimaga wont do this next time though

Antisocialmunky

United States5912 Posts

April 09 2011 14:49 GMT

#494

Here's a challenge: Perfect forcefield placement vs roaches.

DJay_

United States103 Posts

April 09 2011 14:52 GMT

#495

that marine micro was insane keep up the good work guys

By.Fantasy

Thailand123 Posts

April 09 2011 14:59 GMT

#496

Perfect Blink Stalker vs Roaches is gonna be fun :D

Thenno

Netherlands33 Posts

April 09 2011 15:11 GMT

#497

On April 09 2011 23:10 Benjef wrote:
Mind = blown. If someone could something like that marine micro it would be godly.

MKP comes scarily close with his marine micro in a game on Shakuras vs. KyrixZenith. Excerpts of the micro in first part of this vid: + Show Spoiler +

Also, IMMVP does pretty well, as illustrated in the vid. MKP does move back into the blings again to attack them, something I didn't see IMMVP do (from memory, so I might be wrong). Once the mechanics are there, and pros have practiced enough, I think we will see Automaton-ish practices, at least regarding the marines. The sling-splitting is just insane, but maybe we can learn something from it regardless.

Concerning the 18k APM... Every single marine on the map is constantly polling and adjusting it's distance to other marines, to nearby banelings and simultaneously kiting. 18k APM, that's 300 APS, for 18 marines, so almost 17 actions per second per marine. Anyone can see that a human can come very close to executing this (say, with losing 5 marines) with substantially less actions per marine per second (but still insane APM for humans though). Mechanics like patrolsplitting and magic-boxing for marines are only the start to 'tricks' which can lower the APM requirements for automaton-ish miracles.

This might be stating the obvious, but I'm pretty optimistic about the skill ceiling of SC2

rakura

United States183 Posts

April 09 2011 17:03 GMT

#498

God help us all if this is input by Blizzard

TheOnlyOne

Germany155 Posts

April 10 2011 01:48 GMT

#499

Vs the Tanks you can use a small force of Zergling to run in, just say 6 with a big enough distance to each other, then run your big mob after them.

Most the time that will do the job allready, not perfect, but its good enough to have a big gain from this.

DropShip Actions should be crazy with allmost anything.

A Szenario could be:

A DropShip with 2 Marauders is moving around, drops them on the fly, the Marauders "stim" to shoot and run in the moving Dropship (or don't need stim at all).

Doing that with Marines should work aswell.

*With bunkers that should work too, unload Marines, before the melee/projectile hits, back in the bunker. Body Block Melee with the Marines so they can't touch the bunker. Should be totally impossible for humans, but crazy cool for an AI.

Perfect roach with Burrow against Stalkers with Blink would be spectacular.
Don't even know who would win actually.

I think Roaches should win, as they can pre-emptive go in with burrow and have no cooldown on burrow/unburrow ; they also regenerate to 100% and not just shield.

*But yes, pretty much everything would be just plain cool to watch, and the outcome of a Perfect AI is pretty much unpredictable.

NoMoreHero

United States78 Posts

April 10 2011 12:12 GMT

#500

God have mercy if IdrA learns to Micro like that.