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canikizu
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Wolf
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Severian
Australia2052 Posts
On April 07 2011 11:30 MrCon wrote: I think he had 700 APM because he held down the burrow hotkey with a very quick repeat rate. On April 07 2011 11:38 Syben wrote: I have seen the replay and though your idea and theory is a good tip, I dont think it really explains completely all of the shadiness of that players actions Yes, I did not mean to imply that the replay was an example of this technique. I was just telling the story of what made me decide to experiment. I don't think any human is capable of doing what was in that replay. I don't think my APM goes higher than 300-400 when I do this technique as fast as possible without concern for which Roaches I burrow.  On April 07 2011 11:41 Wolf wrote: Whoa. I wonder if you can do this with blink. If you managed to adjust your keyboard repeat rate such that it doesn't repeat the keypress before the hotkey is disabled (which I think is dependent on latency), then it would work. However, that doesn't seem practical. You'll occasionally try to Blink a Stalker which is already on cooldown, from what I've tried, which gets you "stuck" in the targeting-cursor mode and you can't select another Stalker without right-clicking. | ||
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Lysergic
United States355 Posts
The best keyboard settings to use are: Repeat Rate: Fastest Repeat Delay: Shortest I think it'd be best to do a combination of the regular method and this one, so you can keep Burrow on the same hotkey. Hold down R when you have to burrow individual Roaches quickly, release it everytime you no longer have to burrow. This would allow you to quickly burrow AND unburrow Roaches while holding R. Seems like it'd work better just as long as you don't hold R for too long (would make the Roach burrow then unburrow). | ||
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Jumbled
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On April 07 2011 11:30 MrCon wrote: I think he had 700 APM because he held down the burrow hotkey with a very quick repeat rate. The replay linked is of a hacker. The OP is just saying that it inspired him to look for a better way to do burrow micro, not that the replay uses this technique. | ||
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On April 07 2011 11:48 lysergic wrote: This probably explains the Map Hack Micro Bot thread, holding down a hotkey DOES cause your APM to shoot up past 600-700. It's the same thing that happens when you hold down Z to make 100 lings at once. The best keyboard settings to use are: Repeat Rate: Fastest Repeat Delay: Shortest I think it'd be best to do a combination of the regular method and this one, so you can keep Burrow on the same hotkey. Hold down R when you have to burrow individual Roaches quickly, release it everytime you no longer have to burrow. This would allow you to quickly burrow AND unburrow Roaches while holding R. Seems like it'd work better just as long as you don't hold R for too long (would make the Roach burrow then unburrow). No, it doesn't explain the other thread and OP has said this himself. The hacker in that thread is clearly botting and there's no excuse for it. He wasn't even individually selecting his queens and roaches. | ||
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rbx270j
Canada540 Posts
On April 07 2011 11:41 Wolf wrote: Whoa. I wonder if you can do this with blink. you'd at least have to have that extra click to chose a destination if it does, though. | ||
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nitdkim
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zylog
Canada943 Posts
On April 07 2011 10:41 smocca wrote: Nice tip. I have had burrow and unburrow on spacebar but I find myself constantly fumbling around if I try to do midbattle micro. I'll give this a shot. Does anyone know of a roach micro UMS like the marine split challenge? There's always the unit tester but a minigame would be kind of fun. There was one that came out a little while ago. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=186426 | ||
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Nisco
Brazil98 Posts
On April 07 2011 11:41 Wolf wrote: Whoa. I wonder if you can do this with blink. It wouldn't work quite as well because blink required a target point, but I can imagine holding down B for blink, then click on a unit --> clicking behind army --> repeat to work well. | ||
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
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Bozotclown
United Kingdom60 Posts
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tsuxiit
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On April 07 2011 11:48 lysergic wrote: This probably explains the Map Hack Micro Bot thread, holding down a hotkey DOES cause your APM to shoot up past 600-700. It's the same thing that happens when you hold down Z to make 100 lings at once. The best keyboard settings to use are: Repeat Rate: Fastest Repeat Delay: Shortest I think it'd be best to do a combination of the regular method and this one, so you can keep Burrow on the same hotkey. Hold down R when you have to burrow individual Roaches quickly, release it everytime you no longer have to burrow. This would allow you to quickly burrow AND unburrow Roaches while holding R. Seems like it'd work better just as long as you don't hold R for too long (would make the Roach burrow then unburrow). Ugh, if you had watched the replay, the replies in that thread and had a good sense of what is humanly possible in a game, you wouldn't be saying this. It's kinda annoying that people keep pretending he might have been just really good when what he did was literally impossible physically. | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On April 07 2011 11:48 lysergic wrote: This probably explains the Map Hack Micro Bot thread, holding down a hotkey DOES cause your APM to shoot up past 600-700. It's the same thing that happens when you hold down Z to make 100 lings at once. The best keyboard settings to use are: Repeat Rate: Fastest Repeat Delay: Shortest I think it'd be best to do a combination of the regular method and this one, so you can keep Burrow on the same hotkey. Hold down R when you have to burrow individual Roaches quickly, release it everytime you no longer have to burrow. This would allow you to quickly burrow AND unburrow Roaches while holding R. Seems like it'd work better just as long as you don't hold R for too long (would make the Roach burrow then unburrow). Ugh, if you had watched the replay, the replies in that thread and had a good sense of what is humanly possible in a game, you wouldn't be saying this. It's kinda annoying that people keep pretending he might have been just really good when what he did was literally impossible physically. | ||
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vol_
Australia1608 Posts
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ChefStarCraft
Canada350 Posts
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TiBe
Mexico200 Posts
On April 07 2011 11:55 Sein wrote: No, it doesn't explain the other thread and OP has said this himself. The hacker in that thread is clearly botting and there's no excuse for it. He wasn't even individually selecting his queens and roaches. And also the hacker not only burrowed the roaches but also move them in a short distance and then unburrowed them | ||
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On April 07 2011 10:50 Bio0rMech wrote: He had 700 APM, thats kinda impossible... Try to read past the first sentence. | ||
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