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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
April 08 2011 09:36 GMT
#61
On April 08 2011 15:23 Zruku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 11:30 MrCon wrote:
On April 07 2011 10:50 Bio0rMech wrote:
He had 700 APM, thats kinda impossible...

I think he had 700 APM because he held down the burrow hotkey with a very quick repeat rate.

I really doubt he had insane that APM, the fact that the roaches burrowed then moved in the back and were brought up as soon as they had green health with them all selected makes me really doubt he was playing legitimately.

Yep, I answered the guy without watching the replay, a big mistake as he indeed is hacking.
CookieMaker
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada880 Posts
April 08 2011 09:48 GMT
#62
Something tells me i need a better keyboard to be able to make this work efectively :D
Micro your Macro
samuraibael
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia294 Posts
April 08 2011 10:05 GMT
#63
Wow what a great OP. I didnt even know you could change keyboard repeat rates.
It will make for more setup when playing away from home though.
Malpractice.248
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States734 Posts
April 08 2011 20:48 GMT
#64
On April 07 2011 10:41 smocca wrote:
Nice tip. I have had burrow and unburrow on spacebar but I find myself constantly fumbling around if I try to do midbattle micro. I'll give this a shot.

Does anyone know of a roach micro UMS like the marine split challenge? There's always the unit tester but a minigame would be kind of fun.

How do u change JUST burrow hotkey? I cant seem to figure it out?
And unburrow for that matter.
Darksteel
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland319 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 21:51:29
April 08 2011 21:14 GMT
#65
On April 09 2011 05:48 Malpractice.248 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 10:41 smocca wrote:
Nice tip. I have had burrow and unburrow on spacebar but I find myself constantly fumbling around if I try to do midbattle micro. I'll give this a shot.

Does anyone know of a roach micro UMS like the marine split challenge? There's always the unit tester but a minigame would be kind of fun.

How do u change JUST burrow hotkey? I cant seem to figure it out?
And unburrow for that matter.



Go to the Hotkey menu -> select Zerg -> select Roach -> you get 2 windows of actionbuttons, one for being unburrowed and one for being burrowed. Burrow and unburrow are essentially two different actions but are bound to same key by default.

Also regarding the Roach burrow stuff, I tried this on unit tester with 30 roaches against a repaired Planetary Fortress and its not only easy to do, but with average 100-120 overall APM in normal games I managed to burrow micro with 450-500 APM for extended period of time. Also the burrowed roaches flee if they take damage, meaning that if I burrow a roach, and the roach next to it gets hit by the PF splash, the roach runs away from the PF for couple of seconds. This is quite similiar of the behaviour seen in the "hacker replay". I'm not commenting whether or not there was a hack used in the replay, but basically if you can click with 700 APM, you can burrow micro with 700 APM.

Here is a quick and dirty video of the results.



Note that in Starcraft terms, I'm normally really slow 100-120 APM with not that great of a mouse accuracy. Also single PF is easier to micro against than armies, but you get the point what real pros could do with megagosu burrow micro.
Malpractice.248
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States734 Posts
April 08 2011 21:17 GMT
#66
So; its under Standard? Does that mean it wont work w/grid ? o.O
Darksteel
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland319 Posts
April 08 2011 21:30 GMT
#67
On April 09 2011 06:17 Malpractice.248 wrote:
So; its under Standard? Does that mean it wont work w/grid ? o.O


Yeah I guess so. Not sure thou
smocca
Profile Joined May 2010
United States83 Posts
April 08 2011 21:36 GMT
#68
On April 09 2011 06:17 Malpractice.248 wrote:
So; its under Standard? Does that mean it wont work w/grid ? o.O


That's correct.

I'm a grid user but I wanted to make a few changes so I just recreated grid under a standard hotkey scheme. It doesn't end up exactly like grid, but very close and you can then customize things like this burrow hotkey and anything else.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
April 08 2011 21:38 GMT
#69
I think it is completely ridiculous that there has been blink micro for the longest time, but no zergs have done burrow micro... I have a feeling we will soon see zergs actually micro their roach armies... especially for those roach timing attacks with burrow... again... it seems so strange that it still hasn't happened and I have been wondering for awhile.

Of course they still have to macro, but the same goes for every race.
TheDemigod
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia79 Posts
April 09 2011 00:24 GMT
#70
On April 08 2011 11:14 ImmortalTofu wrote:
^^ TO YOU my dear friend, learn to read the OP. He stated that the person in the replay was a hacker, and that he wasn't, he was merely inspired by the amazing power of roach micro in the replay to try to figure out an efficient way to do that kind of micro that way and found it.

To OP: Thanks for the work, very awesome, and I hope to see it used against me... (I kinda deserve it after all my silver league blink rushes vs. zerg... :/)


Where in my post did I direct my comment to OP? Please show me.
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
April 09 2011 03:44 GMT
#71
On April 09 2011 06:14 Darksteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 05:48 Malpractice.248 wrote:
On April 07 2011 10:41 smocca wrote:
Nice tip. I have had burrow and unburrow on spacebar but I find myself constantly fumbling around if I try to do midbattle micro. I'll give this a shot.

Does anyone know of a roach micro UMS like the marine split challenge? There's always the unit tester but a minigame would be kind of fun.

How do u change JUST burrow hotkey? I cant seem to figure it out?
And unburrow for that matter.

snip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwVVd7xd0Ww&feature=player_detailpage

Note that in Starcraft terms, I'm normally really slow 100-120 APM with not that great of a mouse accuracy. Also single PF is easier to micro against than armies, but you get the point what real pros could do with megagosu burrow micro.

Thanks for making that video!
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