EPTiGware Hacking [ you decide ] reps included. - Page 12
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Dagobert
Netherlands1858 Posts
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esla_sol
United States756 Posts
the thread is good because it puts him under the spotlight. it is still too early to make any accusations, but i wouldnt be surprised either way. these kind of hacks are by no means undetectable, and being in the top 200 and what not i am confident he will get the ban hammer if he was indeed cheating. | ||
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
-He teams with someone who is a known hacker from other games, or it's even the same person. -He flies to the top of the ladder all of the sudden while noone knows who he is. -He play like someone in diamond but has 'magical best-in-the-world game-sense' even though he hardly scouts. -He doesn't attend any live events. -Multiple well-known players have stated that they played suspicious games against him. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to see what's going on here. I can't believe there's still people defending this guy. | ||
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Sorcery
United States2 Posts
This is Josh Price (Sorcery on sc2). After talking with many of my friends, I wanted to be upfront with the sc2 community that it was indeed me on iGware playing the solo games that brought it to rank 1 NA. And, yes I was using maphack in some of those games. Sometime in February, David Zhu (iGware) approached me with a maphack program and told me it would be fun to use in sc2. We started to use maphack in some team games. David agreed to use his account as the maphacking one, and I had no problem with this because I did not want to risk my own account being banned. Just to reiterate, I have never hacked on Sorcery... the account is "pure" and clean of hack. Then, David urged me to raise his 1v1 ladder stats as high as possible with the maphack. So, once again, thinking it would be fun, I used maphack on his account and soloed until it was at the top ranks in the world and tried to win as fast as possible using various cheeses. Although I have never hacked on my main account (Sorcery), I know I should not have hacked on my friend's account even if it was not my own. I got too caught up in moment and played for him because he's my friend. I should have resisted my friend's tempting reasons for using the hack and played fairly. Despite many of my friends trying to convince me to stop, it took me this long to finally come forth and I am sorry. From hereforth, I swear for whatever it still means, that I will not hack again. Sorry to all the people I lied to keep this a secret. -Josh Price . User was banned for this post. | ||
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.dezwaluw.org/img/fun/well-well-well.jpg) User was warned for this post | ||
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iGware
United States1 Post
1) yes, Josh Price (Sorcery, aka LastHitMagic in DOTA) hacks 2) Josh was the one playing solo on my account 3) Typically when we played team games, he played on my account and I played on his account (so the iGware in those team games was him). A comparison of hotkeys with the 1v1 and 2v2 will bear this out. I apologize for my actions and will be leaving behind iGware for good. Lastly, I'm sincerely sorry to those who were deceived or hurt by our actions, David User was banned for this post. | ||
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Tyree
1508 Posts
You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to see what's going on here. I can't believe there's still people defending this guy. I think the people defending him, havent actually seen the replays at all and are just playing devils advocate for "fun". If you do watch the replays presented here, there can be absolutely no doubt that this player is indeed maphacking. No player in the history of Brood War nor SC2 has shown this kind of Houdini game sense before. If you are too lazy to watch the replays, then really dont bother commenting | ||
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worosei
Australia198 Posts
and iGware from the descriptions they prob. hack :p, but the accounts and posts just seems odd... there needs to be more drama as well than just a confession if it's real too! also HuK is pure love for his post fixing his grammatical error. U cant beat him. He notices everything, even the bad spelling, and will just huk you. | ||
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PinkPrincess
United States149 Posts
What is conclusive to me is that I spoke with iGware and others on Bnet (prior to this series of confessions being posted), and they told me that Josh does indeed hack [in fact, I first heard it a couple hours ago]. After this, I talked with him for a while, and he agreed to post the confession above (not that I specifically endorse the contents - but I felt that he should post a confession here, as opposed to simply disappearing or trying to continue hiding it). I do not believe there is any excuse for ever hacking. While iGware and others acted as enablers by keeping his secrets from me and others, it was ultimately his decision to hack, and no excuses can account for that. I'm sorry that the situation ended up this way, but I am glad that the truth ultimately came out. I believe that Sorcery is a genuinely good player (even apart from hacking), and I hope he will try to demonstrate this by showing his skill in 1v1 ladder while always live streaming his games as he plays (I and others helped him earlier this evening with setting up a livestream, as at that point I believed him when he claimed not to hack and wanted to help him demonstrate it to others) I said earlier if people determined conclusively that he hacked, you could ban me; I stand by that if you wish (I'm not going to beg to be banned, but I cannot rightfully complain if you do, considering I said the words) Note: I confirm that the above people posting are the REAL posters, even though they only have 1 post each. It's not some troll attempt by people. | ||
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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StateSC2
Korea (South)621 Posts
Was that you, Sorcery, playing on iGware's account? | ||
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PinkPrincess
United States149 Posts
On March 12 2011 20:04 State wrote: Did you hack at the Berkeley LAN too? Was that you, Sorcery, playing on iGware's account? Yes, it was Sorcery playing on iGware's account. I cannot say for sure since they did not include me in their hack discussions knowing my feelings about hackers, but I would be extremely surprised if he did not hack in it. | ||
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HuK
Canada1591 Posts
On March 12 2011 20:02 worosei wrote: first, is that actually the real Socery (josh price) making the TL account? and iGware from the descriptions they prob. hack :p, but the accounts and posts just seems odd... there needs to be more drama as well than just a confession if it's real too! also HuK is pure love for his post fixing his grammatical error. U cant beat him. He notices everything, even the bad spelling, and will just huk you. LOL this is so much fun! ^.^;; | ||
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m3rciless
United States1476 Posts
On March 12 2011 19:57 Logros wrote: Oh come on. -He teams with someone who is a known hacker from other games, or it's even the same person. -He flies to the top of the ladder all of the sudden while noone knows who he is. -He play like someone in diamond but has 'magical best-in-the-world game-sense' even though he hardly scouts. -He doesn't attend any live events. -Multiple well-known players have stated that they played suspicious games against him. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to see what's going on here. I can't believe there's still people defending this guy. well put, and vindicated by events. | ||
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Lochat
United States270 Posts
Also, said hack-deniers should probably look into what constitutes evidence. This isn't Descartes land. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
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TommyLove
United States24 Posts
On March 12 2011 19:51 m3rciless wrote: If he was right about those people then that actually stands to his credit. Was there a conclusion either way? i would say protech is right 10% of the time. normally he would cry hack when he's raging like crazy | ||
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
On March 12 2011 20:12 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: The Sorcery account is from September 2010 so most likely real. And their friend (PinkPrincess) comfirmed it, so it's real. | ||
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Vitamintv
United States35 Posts
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
On March 12 2011 19:57 Logros wrote: Oh come on. -He teams with someone who is a known hacker from other games, or it's even the same person. -He flies to the top of the ladder all of the sudden while noone knows who he is. -He play like someone in diamond but has 'magical best-in-the-world game-sense' even though he hardly scouts. -He doesn't attend any live events. -Multiple well-known players have stated that they played suspicious games against him. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to see what's going on here. I can't believe there's still people defending this guy. sc2 / sjow hardly scouts+good game sense good game sense from playing... | ||
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