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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
Yes he was frozen arbiter but jinro was actaully pretty unsuccessful in sc1. In the latter days of Bw i dont think he played at all. Im happy to see him doing so well now but Nony has what i feel more is more experiance and a little bit more talent. People who just joined TL for sc2 probably dont know how Incredible Nony was and assume hes just an inferior player to Jinro. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On March 13 2011 03:15 Globkin wrote: Eh, Jinro won 2 games from MC if I recall correctly. The first game was on lost temple (which no longer exists cause Blizzard deemed it terran favored  ) and in the second game MC screwed badly. So yeah you are basically judging from a game. But what we do know is that Jinro always chokes and gets beaten badly in the end. People shouldn't pretend he's better than he is just because he's a foreigner, he hasn't done anything impressive so far. The way I see it he had success when terran was favored and now that protoss have figured out the game he doesn't make it far (Ro16 was a given since he was head of the group). I expect him to drop to code A next season since he will get a tough group next time (though so many bad players made it far this season that he could get an easy group again.) sc2 is so random  I will be cheering for Jinro though but mainly cause he's such a nice guy. This has to be the among the worst posts I've read on teamliquid. So disrespectful its just sad. | ||
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rolfe
United Kingdom1266 Posts
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Treehead
999 Posts
On March 13 2011 03:52 rolfe wrote: i have to just post and say wow at tylers play. can't wait to see him in the TSL, especially in later rounds hopefully. Tyler - fruitdealer and tyler - MC could be amazing matches I agree. These matches will be fun to watch. I just hope people figure out sooner than later that Tyler is a beast, and just because he isn't a beast on the korean scene currently doesn't mean PvX is broken if/when he beats someone who is. I agree. These matches will be fun to watch. I just hope people figure out sooner than later that Tyler is a beast, and just because he isn't a beast on the korean scene currently doesn't mean PvX is broken if/when he beats someone who is. On March 12 2011 07:33 Serpico wrote: Because esports dont work the same as sports at all really. They're much more complicated and less straight forward in their balance. Yes, there is a difference between sports and sc2. Sports also contains judgemental calls by officials, whereas SC2 doesn't. My point was about respect and about unfounded opinions. First, making claims which imply that someone's victories were illegitimate is incredibly disrespectful. You should never do this in the first place, even if the concerned party isn't bothered by it. It's just common courtesy. Second, It isn't as though someone has broken down tyler's attacks point by point and explained why they believe certain aspects were too strong, examined jinro's decisions and come to the conclusion that any decision he could've made would've been ineffective, or analyzed tyler's decisions and came to the substantiated conclusion that he was playing terribly. They simply said, "Based on this, P is broken". There's more to the game than that, as your post implies. | ||
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Ashok
Australia339 Posts
On March 13 2011 03:15 Globkin wrote: Eh, Jinro won 2 games from MC if I recall correctly. The first game was on lost temple (which no longer exists cause Blizzard deemed it terran favored ) and in the second game MC screwed badly. So yeah you are basically judging from a game. But what we do know is that Jinro always chokes and gets beaten badly in the end. People shouldn't pretend he's better than he is just because he's a foreigner, he hasn't done anything impressive so far. The way I see it he had success when terran was favored and now that protoss have figured out the game he doesn't make it far (Ro16 was a given since he was head of the group). I expect him to drop to code A next season since he will get a tough group next time (though so many bad players made it far this season that he could get an easy group again.) sc2 is so random I will be cheering for Jinro though but mainly cause he's such a nice guy. Jinro made it to GSL Ro4 twice, beating even MC along the way and taking games off MKP (an insanely good player). It's quite obvious he's one of the VERY best players in the world. He doesn't need to prove that to anyone. This latest game between Tyler and Jinro just shows that Tyler is ALSO really really good. | ||
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frozt_
United States234 Posts
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Arisen
United States2382 Posts
On March 13 2011 08:28 frozt_ wrote: Tyler has always been a scary player when he has time to practice, I imagine his practice for TSL3 is what is being shown off. However Jinro was playing from Korea to US which is incredibly bad for latency. 3/4 of the games were played on Korea server, latency was in Jinro's favor | ||
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On March 13 2011 03:32 Tabbris wrote: People who just joined TL for sc2 probably dont know how Incredible Nony was and assume hes just an inferior player to Jinro. Well, to be fair, he most likely is the inferior player in SC2. I'm not saying that from a biased perspective either -- Jinro practices a lot more than Tyler and he has actual results to show. From an purely objective standpoint, Jinro is the more accomplished and by all measurable statistics a superior player. This could change, but the facts are facts as they stand. | ||
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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
On March 12 2011 07:10 Hider wrote: Sports are balanced. sc2 is not. The statistic shows a clear trend, that terran atm cant beat good protoss players. It was about fking time, after a 2010 with 50% terrans in every top 8 in every tourney. The race have all the resources to succed. P's figured out how to deal with T's after being beated every time. Now is terran turn to find the way. | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On March 13 2011 08:41 Belha wrote: It was about fking time, after a 2010 with 50% terrans in every top 8 in every tourney. The race have all the resources to succed. P's figured out how to deal with T's after being beated every time. Now is terran turn to find the way. Not that I buy into these so-called trends at all yet as there hasn't been enough time, nor do I think there's any TvP imbalance as of yet, the main reason Protosses have been winning lately isn't because they "figured out" anything. It's because every tournament has started using new, bigger maps and as I'm sure we all know, Terran's strategies up until now greatly depended on small maps. | ||
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Kashll
United States1117 Posts
On March 12 2011 16:17 VdH wrote: Haha...Tyler IS Nony  my favourite foreign protoss...gonna try and copy that double forge build. Even though it fails miserably if you don't hit perfect timings, it looks and feels so elegant.Romania | ||
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