EPTTyler v Jinro at PAX (Spoilers) - Page 6
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thebigdonkey
United States354 Posts
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VdH
Romania78 Posts
On March 12 2011 10:05 MindRush wrote: Tyler is such a baller, reminds me of a guy called NonY in broodwar. He always mobilises and beats better ranked players - have to love him Haha...Tyler IS Nony  my favourite foreign protoss...gonna try and copy that double forge build. Even though it fails miserably if you don't hit perfect timings, it looks and feels so elegant. | ||
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Moonling
United States987 Posts
On March 11 2011 21:45 Pulz wrote: Are there VoDs/Streams of the game? Check out Husky's youtube page there all pretty good games not just this one | ||
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
On March 12 2011 16:05 thebigdonkey wrote: No disrespect to Tyler cause I like him and like watching him play, but it looked like Jinro was struggling quite a bit with latency. He missed some emps quite badly. Tyler said earlier in this thread that the first 3 games were on the Korean server. So I don't think that latency had to do with it. Jinro has said a bunch of times that he doesn't do well in TvP and has lots of problems with the match up. Tyler is just getting really good and is getting back into the form that made him so famous in BW | ||
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Arisen
United States2382 Posts
On March 12 2011 16:05 thebigdonkey wrote: No disrespect to Tyler cause I like him and like watching him play, but it looked like Jinro was struggling quite a bit with latency. He missed some emps quite badly. Tyler stated earlier in this post that the first 3 games were hosted on Korea, thus latency would have been better for Jinro than Tyler. As I had stated earlier, trying to demean Tyler's play by saying that he was only doing so well because of some problem on the opponents end is really weak, regardless of opponent, his play was great, which was the point of the post. | ||
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Lennon
United Kingdom2275 Posts
On March 11 2011 18:20 Naniwa wrote: showmatches? really!? then it must be very serious. Have you ever tried meditation? | ||
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Loser777
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barkles
United States285 Posts
On March 12 2011 16:05 thebigdonkey wrote: No disrespect to Tyler cause I like him and like watching him play, but it looked like Jinro was struggling quite a bit with latency. He missed some emps quite badly. Well, he missed some of those emps REALLY badly, certainly much worse than one could explain with any amount of latency. I mean, I've seen many people play from NA to KR (including Tyler), and the latency isn't as bad as Jinro made it look in those games imo. | ||
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starcraft2rush
306 Posts
On March 11 2011 18:20 Naniwa wrote: showmatches? really!? then it must be very serious. Are you for real? /slams door in trolls face BTW great job Tyler. You had some beast-mode control those games. The more results you put up in SC2 the more my respect grows. | ||
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Jayrod
1820 Posts
On March 12 2011 11:49 Hider wrote: The best playr in the world has played like 700 ladder games and dont practice custom games? Jinro has probably plaed like 5 times or more as many tvp as Tyler has played Pvts. I meant MC, but Tyler practices a lot vs. ai iirc so I think your points an exaggeration. Also whitera has an absurd amount of games played and he has a brilliant rts mind. It's like people are insinuating Tyler only won because he uses toss. He won because he was the better player in this show match. | ||
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Jayrod
1820 Posts
On March 12 2011 16:34 barkles wrote: Well, he missed some of those emps REALLY badly, certainly much worse than one could explain with any amount of latency. I mean, I've seen many people play from NA to KR (including Tyler), and the latency isn't as bad as Jinro made it look in those games imo. Games 1-3 were on KR. Tyler won despite lag but not due to it. | ||
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Owii
United States357 Posts
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FrostyTreats
United States355 Posts
MMM/Ghost + tanks... i had some good success with it in practice games on the GSL maps.. any thoughts? | ||
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Denizen[9]
United States649 Posts
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Globkin
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FrostyTreats
United States355 Posts
On March 13 2011 02:14 Globkin wrote: I think this was a combination of Tyler being a much better player and Protoss being slightly favored at the moment. I think people expects too much from Jinro, he has been doing fine on GSL so far but he always ends up being outclassed in an advanced round as soon as he gets a tough opponent (with the exception of MC, and TvZ was easy with the old maps, let's face it). Nony on the other hand I could see winning a GSL if he trained. I think it would have been 3-0 if they had played on the NA server first. I wouldn't underestimate jinro... at all. hes one of the only terrans in the game to have actually beaten MC..... with a hat trick none the less... (didnt practice tvp) I think the issue is terrans are too focused on bio heavy armies and the MU just doesn't favor it anymore with all the new maps and the focus of sentries early on. You shouldn't put too much thought into 1 series.... im sure jinro playing to the best of his ability would outclass nony ;D | ||
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sAfuRos
United States743 Posts
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Globkin
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On March 13 2011 02:27 FrostyTreats wrote: I wouldn't underestimate jinro... at all. hes one of the only terrans in the game to have actually beaten MC..... with a hat trick none the less... (didnt practice tvp) Eh, Jinro won 2 games from MC if I recall correctly. The first game was on lost temple (which no longer exists cause Blizzard deemed it terran favored  ) and in the second game MC screwed badly. So yeah you are basically judging from a game. But what we do know is that Jinro always chokes and gets beaten badly in the end. People shouldn't pretend he's better than he is just because he's a foreigner, he hasn't done anything impressive so far. The way I see it he had success when terran was favored and now that protoss have figured out the game he doesn't make it far (Ro16 was a given since he was head of the group). I expect him to drop to code A next season since he will get a tough group next time (though so many bad players made it far this season that he could get an easy group again.) sc2 is so random  I will be cheering for Jinro though but mainly cause he's such a nice guy. | ||
Mikelius
Germany517 Posts
On March 13 2011 02:53 sAfuRos wrote: Opposingly, Tyler was definitively THE best foreigner for Brood War, and he has the micro/macro/game sense advantage over anyone really. Who was Jinro in Brood War? Never heard of him. Sc2 being a different game, the advantage is certainly not the same, but to say Jinro outclasses Nony is just wrong, especially since he just lost 1-3 to him. Jinro was FrozenArbiter you dolt. | ||
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FrostyTreats
United States355 Posts
On March 13 2011 03:15 Globkin wrote: Eh, Jinro won 2 games from MC if I recall correctly. The first game was on lost temple (which no longer exists cause Blizzard deemed it terran favored ) and in the second game MC screwed badly. So yeah you are basically judging from a game. But what we do know is that Jinro always chokes and gets beaten badly in the end. People shouldn't pretend he's better than he is just because he's a foreigner, he hasn't done anything impressive so far. The way I see it he had success when terran was favored and now that protoss have figured out the game he doesn't make it far (Ro16 was a given since he was head of the group). I expect him to drop to code A next season since he will get a tough group next time (though so many bad players made it far this season that he could get an easy group again.) sc2 is so random I will be cheering for Jinro though but mainly cause he's such a nice guy. actually, The map favored protoss with no cliff abuse. the map is imbalance because of the cliff. a cliff that wasn't abused... and i cant believe you have the nads to try and say jinro is bad or point out that he has gotten lucky with easy groups.... of all the foreigners that have come to korea..only him and idra have gotten the furthest. you overlook 1 series. 1 series doesn't define a persons career. Jinro got to where he was because hes good. oh and need i remind you.. he has accomplished more then any foreigner in sc2? Winning mlg? placing top 4 twice in GSL. <---- Qualifying for the GSL is a feat in of it self something tyler has yet to accomplish. | ||
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