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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15712 Posts
March 09 2011 19:56 GMT
#61
Some people are more sensitive to accent differences than others. I myself am really good at understanding thick asian accents, but I know people (such as my girlfriend) who are just plain bad at it. These people truly do have reason to complain, as they actually struggle to understand her sometimes.

I really liked the personality that she contributed, but her game knowledge was really shaky, and her accent was somewhat of a deal breaker to a lot of people. The GSL is a really big tournament with a lot of money and prestige going into it. Sure, Kelly is a good caster, but the GSL calls for more than just good. They should be truly excellent casters all around.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
March 09 2011 19:57 GMT
#62
Let's not be sensationalist, she wasn't fired. Her contract was for one season all along.
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sanya
Profile Joined February 2011
482 Posts
March 09 2011 19:58 GMT
#63
On March 10 2011 04:47 Dudemeister wrote:
For being the most tolerant and mature community out there, we really fucked up this time!



errr no , no we didn't.
this was the equivalent of hiring paris hilton to moderate a panel on quantum physics in hebreic.
if this news proves accurate then gomtv is simply correcting a mistake.
If wishes were fishes , we'd all cast nets.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
March 09 2011 19:58 GMT
#64
Uh, you guys are stirring up unecessary shit.

GOM as well as the casters have already said that they're rotating in a bunch of code A casters as a sort of "try out"

The complaining/bitching had nothing to do with this, she's not getting fired, this was her tryout, and GOM will evaluate which 2 casters they want to keep after they try out several more casters.
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Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
March 09 2011 19:58 GMT
#65
On March 10 2011 04:55 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 04:53 DayJP wrote:
OP is completely unreasonable and out of freaking arguments. Branding a near "yall racist" post to kelly's critics (which I am, even got some bans for it) should be punishable as well as "badmouthing" miss kelly milkies





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That's how Singapore seems to be taking it.


Is the accent what people generally have problems with?

I was more annoyed by the complete lack of Starcraft 2-knowledge. Sexism and racism has nothing to do with anything.
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Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2092 Posts
March 09 2011 19:58 GMT
#66
It was really just the peoples choice and reaction towards her commentary that many especially non native english speakers doesn't understand her too well. And now she doesn't tell why she is leaving but just that she is going back without any proper explanation?
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LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
March 09 2011 19:58 GMT
#67
I was under the impression that she was a temp or something. I mean it seems like GOM hijacked her from Singapore to cast the GSL. I'm saying that in a way that means, they needed someone ASAP and she responded. Tasteless thanked her countless times on stream saying that she came out on really short noticed. I doubt people got her fired. If people absolutely loved her, then they probably would've extended her contract, but like they said, it was only for one season.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 20:00:18
March 09 2011 19:58 GMT
#68
On March 10 2011 04:48 rysecake wrote:
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On March 10 2011 04:46 CrazyCow wrote:
Now I can stop watching Code A on mute.


You're an asshole. People like you made her leave/get fired (whatever happened). This community has been absolute garbage to her. I honestly feel sorry for Kelly.


Why is he an asshole?
In his opinion (and the opinion of a lot of other people) she just wasnt cut to be a caster, because of her flaws (accent).
If you're not capable of doing your job good enough your contract isnt extended (I dont say that she didnt do her job good enough, that's surely a topic for discussion). It's normal life. Why should "esports" be different?

Also regarding the "cycling of casters" it isnt even sure that she got fired or if GOM planned to extend her contract in the first place.
echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
March 09 2011 19:59 GMT
#69
On March 10 2011 04:45 Ribbon wrote:
http://esfiworld.com/news/kellymilkies-return-singapore

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Unfortunately for the young lady, the communities'reaction to the announcement was less than complimentary and would have been enough to dent anyone's confidence. However, Kelly previously told ESFI World, "It does not affect me negatively mentally or emotionally in any way. It just makes me want to work harder. I am focused on being the best I can be."

Almost exactly one month after travelling to South Korea, Kelly will be returning to Singapore, according to her Twitter feed, she will leave Seoul on the morning of March 15th. In a recent interview with ESFI World, Kelly explained how she "would very much like to stay in Korea" and had "most definitely" enjoyed her time in the country.

Unfortunately, she refused to let us know if she would be going back to South Korea citing that her current contract with GOMtv was only for the duration of one season and explaing that she cannot disclose information about the future.


Congrats to everyone who complained about the accent! You got her fired! Now e-sports is a Singapore-free environment!

Way to go.

That is ridiculous, sure there were those who took their complaints and voiced their opinions in a fashion that was unprofessional and distasteful. However, the truth is the truth, many people could not understand her accent or could not tolerate her accent. It was probably nails on the chalkboard for some people and that is simply the truth, no beating around the bush. Am I glad she's leaving, a small part of me is, not because I hated her, but because her accent was a little hard to understand. Will I miss her, probably yes as well, she's a great caster when it comes to her enthusiasm and energy and her chemistry was fantastic.
"Or a school bus over a bunch of kids" - Tasteless --- “A man's errors are his portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
aLuLz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany175 Posts
March 09 2011 19:59 GMT
#70
Wow, that is actually retarded. Although her accent was really there, it was 100% understandable and she has a lot of insight into the game. Not nice..
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
March 09 2011 19:59 GMT
#71
She was getting better, why stopped now? D=
zoltanium
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia171 Posts
March 09 2011 20:00 GMT
#72
On March 10 2011 04:53 ibreakurface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 04:53 Shockk wrote:
On March 10 2011 04:47 Dudemeister wrote:
For being the most tolerant and mature community out there, we really fucked up this time!


This sums it up nicely. Regardless of why exactly she's leaving.

She had a thick accent, it made her casting a headache to listen to. It isn't because she is oriental, it's because she can't be understood.

Okay, but some of the calls that were made against her by users on TL/reddit/etc were incredibly rude/racist/misogynistic that were defintely not characteristic of the TL/sc community.
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DayJP
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil477 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 20:03:16
March 09 2011 20:00 GMT
#73
On March 10 2011 04:55 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 04:53 DayJP wrote:
OP is completely unreasonable and out of freaking arguments. Branding a near "yall racist" post to kelly's critics (which I am, even got some bans for it) should be punishable as well as "badmouthing" miss kelly milkies





[image loading]

That's how Singapore seems to be taking it.


rofl i'm gonna read this, but by the looks of it, seems to be a helluva butthurting empty victimization nationalist piece of writing

-edit: well i was so wrong, the article is pretty lame



User was temp banned for this post.
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ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
March 09 2011 20:00 GMT
#74
Aside from her heavy accent I thought she was doing pretty good as a commentator. I agree with HuK, her knowledge of the game is better than 80% of TLnet posters.
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Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
March 09 2011 20:00 GMT
#75
On March 10 2011 04:50 trucane wrote:
What are you saying OP? That one isn't allowed to complain about something one don't like? Why are you trying to make us feel some kind of guilt just because she wouldn't get a renewed contract? I for one am really glad to hear about this, it's nice to see that GOM actually cares about the feedback they get.


Because what half the people did wasnt complaining. Posting once that you dont like Kelly casting is one thing. Posting in every TL thread about GSL about how you have to mute the stream because of how horrible she is is different.
Personally i couldnt care less about the caster, I watch a lot of BW and I cant even understand what theyre saying and that doesnt change my enjoyment of the game.
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
March 09 2011 20:00 GMT
#76
If she is sincere about becoming a better caster, I have no problem with seeing her return.
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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
March 09 2011 20:01 GMT
#77
On March 10 2011 04:59 antilyon wrote:
She was getting better, why stopped now? D=

Cause the people who paid for streams, and people who watch GSL have been non-stop hating on her. I wouldn't blame them. If i put my money into something i would want to atleast make it enjoyable for me.
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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 20:02:21
March 09 2011 20:01 GMT
#78
We'll see how moletrap does (I hope we'll see him on air) , I tried my best to like Kelly as a caster , but really her english is not good enough to cast in such a high profile tournament. However she greatly improved her knowledge , was funny at time etc... basically almost everything to be a good caster expect the english.
Arcticc
Profile Joined June 2010
United States203 Posts
March 09 2011 20:02 GMT
#79
On March 10 2011 04:59 aLuLz wrote:
Wow, that is actually retarded. Although her accent was really there, it was 100% understandable and she has a lot of insight into the game. Not nice..


I don't think she had great insight.

I don't really feel guilty either. In the end, it's an entertainment product that I have purchased and glad I'll be able to continue supporting it because I truly do enjoy the GSL. The only thing I haven't enjoyed in the 5 seasons I've purchased is Kelly and the poor Marine King finals.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 20:02:56
March 09 2011 20:02 GMT
#80
I feel like reposting the top comment from the equivalent thread on Reddit:
Quoting John the Translator's interview:
Some people have claimed we are running a 'beta' test for casters in Code A. This in a sense is true. This is the final procedure for selecting casters for Code A. We need to test them out in actual matches and see the reaction. We plan to try out few more casters over next few seasons. So if one caster stops showing up after a season it does not mean he or she is fired. It just means it's next candidate's turn for the try out. I know from my experience that everytime we make some changes people freak out but without changes there can be no improvement.
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