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nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
March 11 2011 09:51 GMT
#1001
Kelly is actually OK with DOA @@. Must be some kinda lack of chemistry with tasteless.
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Drow
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada60 Posts
March 11 2011 09:54 GMT
#1002
The biggest thing is that she doesn't bring anything to the cast. She can describe what is happening(building 2 barracks, saving money for a fast expo) but not why or how it will affect the game. Also when it is 3AM the last thing I want is to have to work to decipher a strong accent (I'm pretty sure males have accents too :O).
CookieMaker
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada880 Posts
March 11 2011 10:01 GMT
#1003
Listening to her right now after not watching GSL since first hearing her and she is SOOO much better than when she started. Actually okay to listen to, still needs to jsut get more comfortable in her role in the spotlight though (avoid awkward flimflam that doesn't pertain to the game). Shame she is leaving.
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nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 10:05:11
March 11 2011 10:01 GMT
#1004
There's plenty of female Asians on news channels that speak English just fine and not Engrish with some abhorred voice. So it's not about race or sex, but it's her voice, pronunciation, and the ability to articulate. It seems like the other caster is often carrying her through... She seems to lack knowledge of the game or make funny jokes compared to what the other casters have done.
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Schmurken
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2 Posts
March 11 2011 10:05 GMT
#1005
I was really happy when i heard the news about Kelly returning to Singapore. im not a hater and i wish her the best of luck. Though now when she returned to the Code A finals with DoA .. i feel we need to do something. I want the starcraft scene to grow in the west and she's is not face we want to show the newbies (no i dont think she is ugly). i mean the lack of game-sense, bad jokes and at stressful times not even beeing able to understand what she is saying. i know alot dont like Kelly because of the pronouncing of words, im fine with that but i can't accept as a fan and as a costumer at GOMTv to listen to a hurricane of words slapping me in the ears.

She might be great for a stream in Vietnam, probaly. But the stream for Europe and America? no she is not.

Can we start a petition so we can see actually how many who wants a new caster side by side to DoA? or a vote of some kind? we need to do something because this is a joke, i dont want GOMTv or the Starcraft community to loose viewers. Suggestions? start threads in a rational way, not a hating/trolling fashion and explain why we dont want Kelly to be voice of code A.
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frozenrb
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland389 Posts
March 11 2011 10:06 GMT
#1006
On March 11 2011 19:01 nalgene wrote:
There's plenty of female Asians on news channels that speak English just fine and not Engrish with some abhorred voice. So it's not about race or sex, but it's her voice, pronunciation, and the ability to articulate. It seems like the other caster is often carrying her through...


100% agree, her pronunciation is so bad... She should improve her English skills. Do you can imagine Kelly in tv? Sory, but im from Poland and i Have problems with understanding 3/4 of word's when she is speaking very fast...

English cast is for whole US, Europe, and other continents that don't understand Korean language. It should be flawless, with perfect English.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
March 11 2011 10:08 GMT
#1007
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Ovielord
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada60 Posts
March 11 2011 10:09 GMT
#1008
I honestly don't think she's good enough. I find it hard to listen to her. It's not because she's asian or female. lilsusie is asian and female, and I didn't have a problem with her when she casted with tasteless back then.
frozenrb
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland389 Posts
March 11 2011 10:10 GMT
#1009
For me her english is like.

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It's only my opinion.
nka203
Profile Joined May 2010
United States102 Posts
March 11 2011 10:12 GMT
#1010
Listening to her right now.. live on GomTV... had to mute it.
She's not sure what to say and when she does.. its about 3% informative and 97% useless + not understood. I used to tell the haters that she was doing a good job and she's just trying to be helpful.

Not so sure how helpful she is anymore.

I don't blame GomTV because they probably don't have many english-speaking staff members there that know how bad accents can be.
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
March 11 2011 10:15 GMT
#1011
On March 11 2011 19:05 Schmurken wrote:

She might be great for a stream in Vietnam, probaly. But the stream for Europe and America? no she is not.

Can we start a petition so we can see actually how many who wants a new caster side by side to DoA? or a vote of some kind? we need to do something because this is a joke, i dont want GOMTv or the Starcraft community to loose viewers. Suggestions? start threads in a rational way, not a hating/trolling fashion and explain why we dont want Kelly to be voice of code A.

Ironic.
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GertHeart
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States631 Posts
March 11 2011 10:15 GMT
#1012
You guys are seriously not even listening to her? 97% useless? Actually watch the full cast. Here's a hint all of your Accents(including USA) sound weird to others. Actually watch the whole thing if you watch it by the end you think "hmm I don't really remember it" guess what that means it didn't effect you actually.
He who conquers the past rules the future, He who conquers the future rules the past. - C&C Red Alert
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 11 2011 10:21 GMT
#1013
I find it funny that the thread went from being a legit group investigation of the circumstances of Kelly's leave and GOM's caster trial system to being yet another pointless debate about Kelly's gender and accent.

Keep it up, TL netizens. I am very proud of you all, yo.
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frozenrb
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland389 Posts
March 11 2011 10:24 GMT
#1014
On March 11 2011 19:15 GertHeart wrote:
You guys are seriously not even listening to her? 97% useless? Actually watch the full cast. Here's a hint all of your Accents(including USA) sound weird to others. Actually watch the whole thing if you watch it by the end you think "hmm I don't really remember it" guess what that means it didn't effect you actually.


97% of time i must focus on word's not the game. Actually all of accents sound weird but they are more or less understandable. I must think what she said.

Kelly: Banelin ( the whole end of the word is big mystery )
I: think
Kelly: 5 more word's
I: ok she said Baneling

I don't have problems with Khaldor, Endrey, Take... and many many other casters. Look at Carmac english... It may sound weird but it is clean.
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
March 11 2011 10:24 GMT
#1015
On March 11 2011 19:21 eviltomahawk wrote:
I find it funny that the thread went from being a legit group investigation of the circumstances of Kelly's leave and GOM's caster trial system to being yet another pointless debate about Kelly's gender and accent.

Keep it up, TL netizens. I am very proud of you all, yo.


Can't say anything about gender, but accent is a pretty important issue in a job like this.
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
March 11 2011 10:24 GMT
#1016
Guys, come on, be objective ffs. I was from Singapore, now live in Melbourne (aussie yeah!), had a Singaporean girlfriend, now have Caucasian friends in my university, bottom line is this...everyone understands me, but sometimes I can't understand her.

It doesn't really matter that she's a girl, or what ethnicity she is, her qualifications, your personal xenophobic tendencies...nope, not important. What's important: She does her job. You can't have a commentator in the world cup that is heard 60% of the time (and that drops to 25% in tense situations). You need to be heard 99.9% of the time, because people are paying to hear you talk.

It is also rather uncharacteristic of TL to be handing out so many warnings and bans for honest, but harsh criticism. This kind of censorship just doesn't happen in sports, period. I mean if she is causing you to mute the speakers, then fair enough, you find her that horrible, and is on tangent. We gave her a fair go, we didn't talk about her looks or anything...just because you're a somewhat vulnerable young Asian girl does not warrant a her flame shield. She's a working professional in a high-profile role. She needs to go, she needs to go.

So many white knights here too.
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RoseTempest
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada196 Posts
March 11 2011 10:27 GMT
#1017
I'm drunk, and i'm gonna give a brutally honest evaluation of kelly.

Facts:

-She screeches and gets completely incomprehensible whenever she's excited (don't argue, you know its true, when there's over 10 mutas, or 20 banelings or something)

-Her accent is unpleasant, personally, i find a british, italian, spanish, german, even RUSSIAN accent tolerable, her hardcore singlish accent is just atrocious. I'm not being racist, i'm chinese, many of my friends are from singapore, its just that the pronunciation and syllable emhpasis is just grating and terrible.

-Her analysis ISN'T that good, really. this is supposedly the one thing that she makes up for everything with, but fact is, her analysis is mediocre at best, and is consisted of making wrong statements, giving play by play re-iterations, and telling us how many units are on the map. to be honest, if i had nothing better to do, i'd go to korea and show her how its done.


Iunno guys, to be honest, there's always gonna be the white knights, (especially here) valiantly charging forward to defend their precious perfect asian waifu, but you can't objectively tell us that she's a good caster. Look at Doa, what is this, his 3rd cast? and he's already miles ahead of kelly.

Go to singapore, do awesome in whatever you choose to, but please don't cast any more gsl.
Jim7
Profile Joined December 2010
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 10:34:48
March 11 2011 10:29 GMT
#1018
The weirdest thing I've seen is that people want Tasteless and Artosis to cast but they are the ones who requested new commentators for Code A. I wonder how many people complaining understand that.

I can understand her fine. The only thing I'm missing from the commentators is that high level analysis that Tasteless and Artosis bring. They can predict what players are attempting and let you in on the bigger picture that's about to or is unfolding. Where as the Code A commentators are mainly reacting to what they see.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
March 11 2011 10:34 GMT
#1019
On March 11 2011 19:29 Jim7 wrote:
The weirdest thing I've seen is that people want Tasteless and Artosis to cast but they are the ones who requested new commentators for Code A. I wonder how many people complaining understand that.

I can understand her fine. The only thing I'm missing from the commentators is that high level analysis that Tasteless and Artosis bring. They can predict what the players are attempting and give you an inside view on what's going on where as the Code A commentators are mainly reacting to what they see.


That's why these two are casting code a. If they were tastosis level casting then they would cast code s, right?
There's no S in KT. :P
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 11 2011 10:34 GMT
#1020
On March 11 2011 19:24 LegendaryZ wrote:
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On March 11 2011 19:21 eviltomahawk wrote:
I find it funny that the thread went from being a legit group investigation of the circumstances of Kelly's leave and GOM's caster trial system to being yet another pointless debate about Kelly's gender and accent.

Keep it up, TL netizens. I am very proud of you all, yo.


Can't say anything about gender, but accent is a pretty important issue in a job like this.

True, but it has been debated to death in countless other posts in countless other threads in SC forums all over the place. No one is gonna change their mind through internet arguing.

Heck, the first half of this thread had been much more productive compared to this internet argue-fest. We actually figured out the timeline confirming GOM's caster selection cycle, and we also figured out that Kelly was not fired, only that her casting trial period had ended.

Now everyone is just rehashing the same arguments over and over again, only with different words, and consequently, the value of the thread has taken a nosedive.
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