I applaud MLG for taking steps to balance Blizzard's maps such as neutral depots and preventing close spawns. That said, I wish they would have been a bit more adventurous in their map choices, especially if these are to be the maps used all year (last year they showed reluctance to change the pool mid-season). Why they chose Crossfire over any of the GSL maps is beyond me. But seeing iCCup get some recognition is really cool.

ccJroy

United States483 Posts

March 01 2011 15:19 GMT

#285

Like others have said, nice job MLG. Great maps all around and personally as someone who offraces quite a bit i feel that all these maps are the best choice in terms of balance and macro/micro/diversity.

I'm glad there adding in the new LT, personally its the only new that i can stand outta the new map pool and wont give the cliff dropping that we see on the regular LT.

Should be a good time when the tournament series start.

MLG_Lee

279 Posts

March 01 2011 15:23 GMT

#286

On March 02 2011 00:13 Rokk wrote:
I applaud MLG for taking steps to balance Blizzard's maps such as neutral depots and preventing close spawns. That said, I wish they would have been a bit more adventurous in their map choices, especially if these are to be the maps used all year (last year they showed reluctance to change the pool mid-season). Why they chose Crossfire over any of the GSL maps is beyond me. But seeing iCCup get some recognition is really cool.

From my post earlier in the thread Rokk:

On March 01 2011 11:56 MLG_Lee wrote:
We do listen. Really, we do. :D As a league, I know we will always be under scrutiny, but hopefully this goes a little way to showing the community that we pay attention and that we often have reasons for the things that we do.

Along those lines, I see a lot of questions about why we chose Crossfire vs some of the other GSL maps. Personally, I love Crevasse, but we're also under some serious time constraints due to our bracket size and format. The average time in all the major competition replays we could get our hands on showed Crevasse exceeding our cut off. Unfortunately, so we really couldn't risk having a map that might delay the progress of the tournament. 5mins more every round ends up being a 3hr+ delay by the end of the weekend. And the schedule is already REALLY long for the players.

Crossfire, while not as good in allowing the macro-game to be played out as some of the other larger maps these days, has some really exciting elements to it that I'm looking forward to seeing on the main stage at Dallas.

Rokk

United States425 Posts

March 01 2011 15:27 GMT

#287

Sorry, I didn't have the time to read the entire thread. Thanks for the response, Lee. Since I have you for a second, are you guys planning to keep the same map pool for the year or has that not been decided yet?

MoreFaSho

United States1427 Posts

March 01 2011 15:29 GMT

#288

On March 02 2011 00:23 MLG_Lee wrote:

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From my post earlier in the thread Rokk:

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I totally get this, and I'm really happy with the map pool and I think the games will be awesome to watch, but can't you just as easily have one really long game hold up a large part of the tournament? I've seen ZvT on steppes of war end up having a 85 minute game before.

cYaN

Norway3322 Posts

March 01 2011 15:32 GMT

#289

I really like that mlg included iccup and gsl maps. After jp talking on woc on sotg about why mlg would "promote" other things with their map pool etc i was a bit scared

Being a bit too careful maybe, but much more important imo that you're willing to try^^ gw.

rastaban

United States2294 Posts

March 01 2011 15:37 GMT

#290

I love that they are paying such attention to the community requests, and then this post explaining why they picked what they did is great.

I am worried though because it seems like everything they are doing is just setting up the Jinro for another MLG win. I mean come on macro maps are so IMBA in his favor it is ridiculous! :D

Weavel

Finland9224 Posts

March 01 2011 15:38 GMT

#291

great maps.

Jaydos

Australia60 Posts

March 01 2011 15:43 GMT

#292

On March 02 2011 00:27 Rokk wrote:
Sorry, I didn't have the time to read the entire thread. Thanks for the response, Lee. Since I have you for a second, are you guys planning to keep the same map pool for the year or has that not been decided yet?

MLG have said that they will be changing maps during the season.

TT1

Canada10067 Posts

March 01 2011 15:44 GMT

#293

excellent map pool apart from scrap station, one of the most horrible maps for toss

TwoMagTrav

United States195 Posts

March 01 2011 16:13 GMT

#294

Awesome map pool. Great for Zergs and macro players. Maybe the patch will drop before the tourney and we will have another ZvZ final like Assembly. lol

whatthefat

United States918 Posts

March 01 2011 16:22 GMT

#295

Fantastic decisions! MLG FTW

Ponyo

United States1231 Posts

March 01 2011 19:03 GMT

#296

smart for keeping shakuras in. Really is a great map. Think cross pos only is an awesome stipulation that they are adding.

Raiznhell

Canada786 Posts

March 01 2011 19:46 GMT

#297

What I don't like is how there is NO close positions at all. Like if ramps cannot be blocked anymore then why not keep close positions in it adds an entertaining element to the game I mean i get that Zerg players whine a whole bunch about it but it's not like their win-rate in close positions is less than 40%. It's like people are trying to eliminate cheese altogether and also trying to make the game favor 1 race. People forget cheese is still done SO often in BW and also there are maps where close positions is a factor like Python for example.

Otherwise I do love the maps but rigging them has me feeling uncomfortable.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

March 01 2011 19:51 GMT

#298

I truly support these maps. Especially with the custom changes.
I am not certain yet but I think I will buy a premium ticket for MLG. Depends on what they offer for Europeans though.

But I liked that they explained their format on SotG 27.