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On February 27 2011 21:23 Apolo wrote:Hey, i can't win an argument based on logic so let's just try to promote flame wars. Mature. Go back to drinking kool aid. It was just a joke by wat454, it's seems you are the one not being mature here. Chill out ^_^
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On February 27 2011 21:23 Apolo wrote:Hey, i can't win an argument based on logic so let's just try to promote flame wars. Mature. Go back to drinking kool aid. The mothership was imbalanced, that nerf is easily agreable, but not the amulet one. Even if it was stronger than it should, removing it is in no way a good solution. perhaps not +25 so it can't do it right away but pretty soon so like +15?
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So this warning about spawn larva buff ending, is it useful for keeping up with larva injections? Can you choose to turn off all other warnings and have only this one appear?
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Don't see why they can't give HT the BW energy buff.
High Templar start with 50 energy, had 200 total.
Make a upgrade that makes them get +12 energy starting, and +50 total.
Start with 62, 250 max.
No more warp-in storms, but can storm 3 times per templar if you bank energy.
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On February 27 2011 21:55 Fa1nT wrote: Don't see why they can't give HT the BW energy buff.
High Templar start with 50 energy, had 200 total.
Make a upgrade that makes them get +12 energy starting, and +50 total.
Start with 62, 250 max.
No more warp-in storms, but can storm 3 times per templar if you bank energy. Jinro also mentioned this is another thread. Seems like a good compromise. Now to only make this clear to Blizzard...
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On February 27 2011 21:55 Fa1nT wrote: Don't see why they can't give HT the BW energy buff.
High Templar start with 50 energy, had 200 total.
Make a upgrade that makes them get +12 energy starting, and +50 total.
Start with 62, 250 max.
No more warp-in storms, but can storm 3 times per templar if you bank energy.
Seconded!! Removing the amulet is a huge nerf... This is better. Jinro suggested this in the other thread as well. So it seems pros seem to think the same way too. Maybe pros should give this feedback to david kim since it looks like their opinion counts in these matters. IMO all energy upgrades (ghost , infestor etc) should work the same way... Not sure why this mechanic was changed from BW where it worked fairly well.
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- New league icons have been introduced to indicate division rank. These will indicate the Top 8, 25 and 50 players in each division.
No no no no no
If the ladder points actually meant something, or if they were going to give it to the top X% in a division based on hidden MMR, then fair enough, but why should I be rewarded with a fancy icon just because I used up more of my bonus pool than the players below me in my division?
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I'm a moron.
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On February 27 2011 22:18 The Touch wrote:Also: Show nested quote +- The notification that a player left the game during a paused game is no longer delayed until the game is unpaused. What? So now somebody can pause/leave and you, as the good mannered player that you are, have no idea that you're patiently waiting for somebody who has just left the game to piss you off? Seriously, Blizz? Seriously?
That's exactly what they fixed in this patch.
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Oh crap never mind - I totally read that wrong. But I'm sure I've seen the message displayed during the pause before, so I'm quite confused now.
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what i would like to know:
Poll: Was there more rage about...?No Amulet (77) 64% Fungal - No air (44) 36% 121 total votes Your vote: Was there more rage about...? (Vote): Fungal - No air (Vote): No Amulet
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Does the BroodLord really cost even more in this PTR patch, than on live patch ? Its like 150-100 corruptor, and 150-150 for morph to BL on live right?.
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On February 27 2011 22:41 KenZo- wrote: Does the BroodLord really cost even more in this PTR patch, than on live patch ? Its like 150-100 corruptor, and 150-150 for morph to BL on live right?.
We kind of went over this the last page
Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 20:49 Unfeared wrote: Broodlord morph cost increased to 250/250 Overseer morph increased to 150/100 blizzard why u no tell ??//!? It's bugged to include the previous unit's cost
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On February 27 2011 22:41 KenZo- wrote: Does the BroodLord really cost even more in this PTR patch, than on live patch ? Its like 150-100 corruptor, and 150-150 for morph to BL on live right?.
It's a known issue with the patch.
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o.o
Not that many high MMR players on, I suppose. GET ON THE PTR AND TEST THESE CHANGES!
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I feel the change to fungal is directed more towards PvZ, since toss has the slower moving units. The increase in dps more or less balances out the accuracy of fungal on terran. Players will feel it's a buff when they get better at aiming them. 2 consecutive fungals kill marines regardless of medivacs, or u get just use fungal after your lings have flanked them. Infestors might still not be effective against good tank marine placement, but against small group of bio or pure bio play it is definitely more effective. This change makes it more viable to go infestors as your first lair tech instead of using it only at late game as a support unit. More importantly, this makes zerg more fun to play with these slightly more challenging usage of infestors.
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On February 27 2011 23:09 babysimba wrote: I feel the change to fungal is directed more towards PvZ, since toss has the slower moving units. The increase in dps more or less balances out the accuracy of fungal on terran. Players will feel it's a buff when they get better at aiming them. 2 consecutive fungals kill marines regardless of medivacs, or u get just use fungal after your lings have flanked them. Infestors might still not be effective against good tank marine placement, but against small group of bio or pure bio play it is definitely more effective. This change makes it more viable to go infestors as your first lair tech instead of using it only at late game as a support unit. More importantly, this makes zerg more fun to play with these slightly more challenging usage of infestors.
I think this will just make zerg even more of a beast lategame TvZ using infestor ultra which will rape bio even more now, terran will realy need to incorporate ghost as a standard in tvz I guess
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On February 27 2011 23:09 babysimba wrote: I feel the change to fungal is directed more towards PvZ, since toss has the slower moving units. The increase in dps more or less balances out the accuracy of fungal on terran. Players will feel it's a buff when they get better at aiming them. 2 consecutive fungals kill marines regardless of medivacs, or u get just use fungal after your lings have flanked them. Infestors might still not be effective against good tank marine placement, but against small group of bio or pure bio play it is definitely more effective. This change makes it more viable to go infestors as your first lair tech instead of using it only at late game as a support unit. More importantly, this makes zerg more fun to play with these slightly more challenging usage of infestors. While this is true I personally feel this change is mosly directly towards ZvZ in anti Roach Measures, They just die ever so slow to fungal
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I don't get why people want to get the old HT back with 62 and 250 total mana upgrade. That alone is still quite a bit too much since strom in sc2 is nothing like it. Also, warp in units is much faster this time around so it is much faster to bank energy points. Thus, having a BW concept such as this is a not-so-bright one. If they were to change it, it definitely should not involve HT BW concepts. IMO i think this was an awesome change so that now toss doesn't just conjure a 10 food army to eat 60 supply food count of terran bio units.
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i hope all these new changes stick and go through!! its awesome.
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On February 27 2011 23:22 doomed wrote: i hope all these new changes stick and go through!! its awesome. I have to say most of these changes don't bother me very much a delayed stim while it is abit annoying it's not crippling, bunkering isn't that bad as long as salvage is still in, despite the infestor buffs tanks will offer good shelter vs them. it's not to bad, Though I wonder, how ZvZ roach war with infestor back up is going to go now that it does damage faster, reveals, and deals the anti armor dmg. it would be something fun to look out for in future games.
edit: I been thinking it will deal critical damage to armored units the entire time but 30% of 35 is like ~12 so 47? well i guess it's really good since it's no research and stuns the targets but +12 is not much
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