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[Q&A] Official NASL Thread - Page 19

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Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
February 23 2011 08:25 GMT
#361
On February 23 2011 17:10 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 17:09 Defacer wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:02 Macabre wrote:
On February 23 2011 16:57 don_kyuhote wrote:
On February 23 2011 16:55 Macabre wrote:
http://www.justin.tv/teamqq/b/280083999

The face behind NASL. Incontrol. What a great human being.

He really is.
Western eSports really woudn't be the same if it wasn't for iNcontroL.
No way.

Racist as hell, immature, and fake. Yeah, the exact type of person I would hire professionally.


Question for mods: Can I get banned for calling someone a dickhead?


Yes.

I'm no mod, but I'm a pretty good expert at reading rules: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883


Then I respectfully and adamantly disagree with Macabre's shitty opinion.
Momildo
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil93 Posts
February 23 2011 08:25 GMT
#362
All this discussion about the broadcast being live or not has just made cross the line from lurker to poster.

"LIVE Games?: The games will be cast live! When will the games be broadcast vs when they are cast? This depends on the production. Everything will follow a schedule of broadcasting, etc. We will produce an amazing product, that's what I can say."

This piece of information makes it quite clear. It is not certain that the broadcast will be live or not, it depends on the production. At first it probably won't be as they will be working to make a good final product full of goodies for us. Later, when they have a better grasp of the whole show maybe they will be able to make it live, if they can deliver a good product while doing a live show.

It would be better if the broadcast was not lvie at first 'cause there would probably be many mistakes, small and big, and the forums would overflow with stupid comments about how the NASL would fail and never improve. Better that they correct those mistakes before time and learn with each new show how to better produce it and deliver a great final product to us.

It says right there Cast vs Broadcast?, it depends on the production. We can only hope that it becomes a fully live show as soon as possible, as everyone will agree that it is more exciting.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 23 2011 08:25 GMT
#363
On February 23 2011 17:25 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 17:10 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:09 Defacer wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:02 Macabre wrote:
On February 23 2011 16:57 don_kyuhote wrote:
On February 23 2011 16:55 Macabre wrote:
http://www.justin.tv/teamqq/b/280083999

The face behind NASL. Incontrol. What a great human being.

He really is.
Western eSports really woudn't be the same if it wasn't for iNcontroL.
No way.

Racist as hell, immature, and fake. Yeah, the exact type of person I would hire professionally.


Question for mods: Can I get banned for calling someone a dickhead?


Yes.

I'm no mod, but I'm a pretty good expert at reading rules: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883


Then I respectfully and adamantly disagree with Macabre's shitty opinion.


I already reported him, but you get a golden star for being baller!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 08:28:54
February 23 2011 08:28 GMT
#364
On February 23 2011 17:24 oursblanc wrote:
Does that mean you are not using Justin.tv? Since they have a built in bandwidth changer.


Question regarding this, if you aren't, are you using the same software that MLG is using? cant remember the name though.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Enzyme
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia183 Posts
February 23 2011 08:29 GMT
#365
Thinking about it, why are they mentioning that it is live at all? Is there any difference between commentating live and just commentating on replays when you are going to delay the broadcast by a day? We aren't seeing the games live either way. People hate replays because it means that the game already occurred, it's over. If you are delaying the games anyway, why not just cast them from replays and be done with it.
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
February 23 2011 08:31 GMT
#366
On February 23 2011 17:21 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 17:16 Dhalphir wrote:
Question:

You say the free stream quality is 800kbp/s while the HQ paid one will be 3mbps.

Is this variable? If I don't have a connection to the server good enough to sustain that sort of speed, can I scale down my quality so as to have a smooth experience? Or will I be relegated to VODs?

Related issue - Will premium stream holders get priority on bandwidth?


Hi, I've answered this question before but I will repeat: we will be considering this issue internally and think of a solution that can also cater to people whose internet cannot handle the stream quality. Will update when we have a definitive answer to this!


Apologies, it was not in the OP.

Just wanted to stress how important it is that you keep this option in mind. American internet is blazingly fast, especially when connecting to other American sites, but an Australian or European connection does not do nearly as well, even when connecting to nearby servers, let alone trying to connect to America.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 23 2011 08:31 GMT
#367
On February 23 2011 17:29 Enzyme wrote:
Thinking about it, why are they mentioning that it is live at all? Is there any difference between commentating live and just commentating on replays when you are going to delay the broadcast by a day? We aren't seeing the games live either way. People hate replays because it means that the game already occurred, it's over. If you are delaying the games anyway, why not just cast them from replays and be done with it.


If there's no difference, why make a problem of the distinction?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
February 23 2011 08:32 GMT
#368
On February 23 2011 17:29 Enzyme wrote:
Thinking about it, why are they mentioning that it is live at all? Is there any difference between commentating live and just commentating on replays when you are going to delay the broadcast by a day? We aren't seeing the games live either way. People hate replays because it means that the game already occurred, it's over. If you are delaying the games anyway, why not just cast them from replays and be done with it.


Seconding this. I watch GSL live despite buying a premium ticket and having access to higher quality VODs because the experience is different Live. You know you're watching it with tons of other people, its all happening as you're watching it.

I'd have trouble explaining rationally to someone WHY its an important distinction to me, but its still an important one.
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Enzyme
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia183 Posts
February 23 2011 08:35 GMT
#369
On February 23 2011 17:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 17:29 Enzyme wrote:
Thinking about it, why are they mentioning that it is live at all? Is there any difference between commentating live and just commentating on replays when you are going to delay the broadcast by a day? We aren't seeing the games live either way. People hate replays because it means that the game already occurred, it's over. If you are delaying the games anyway, why not just cast them from replays and be done with it.


If there's no difference, why make a problem of the distinction?


Well by mentioning they are commentating it live, they are making out like it's some fabulous feature, which it clearly isn't. They've even been capitalizing the word LIVE as if it's something amazing, when really it's no better than commentating on replays. In fact, they'd be better off just commentating on replays because then they wouldn't have to worry about delays and issues they could just record whenever they wanted. They are going out of their way to try and sell a meaningless "feature".
oursblanc
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1450 Posts
February 23 2011 08:35 GMT
#370
With the GSL, if you don't watch it live you know that thousands of people will be seeing it before you.

That won't be happening with the NASL.
An oasis of horror in a desert of boredom!
Barolt
Profile Joined February 2011
98 Posts
February 23 2011 08:36 GMT
#371
Out of curiousity, how do you define a Korean player? If NesTea moved to Los Angeles, for instance, would he be considered a Korean player? Where does Select fit? What about IdrA? He's lived in Korea for a few years now. He could be considered a 'Korean player', right?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 08:39:57
February 23 2011 08:37 GMT
#372
On February 23 2011 17:35 Enzyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 17:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:29 Enzyme wrote:
Thinking about it, why are they mentioning that it is live at all? Is there any difference between commentating live and just commentating on replays when you are going to delay the broadcast by a day? We aren't seeing the games live either way. People hate replays because it means that the game already occurred, it's over. If you are delaying the games anyway, why not just cast them from replays and be done with it.


If there's no difference, why make a problem of the distinction?


Well by mentioning they are commentating it live, they are making out like it's some fabulous feature, which it clearly isn't. They've even been capitalizing the word LIVE as if it's something amazing, when really it's no better than commentating on replays. In fact, they'd be better off just commentating on replays because then they wouldn't have to worry about delays and issues they could just record whenever they wanted. They are going out of their way to try and sell a meaningless "feature".


Aren't you making this issue or possible antic more of an issue than it really is?
What changes exactly besides your mindset? Do the games get better? Are the players supremely better if we watch them live?

If we pray to them knowing they're playing as we're praying, do they receive some otherworldly benediction?

If they play live and we cheer and chant their names into the starry night sky, will they feel our blessing? Will they feel our call for help, our need to see them succeed, to achieve the best of their abilities as we stare at the illuminated square of our monitor! Will they know that I am staring right at them, into their soul, feeling the pulse of their fingers as they apply several maneuvers in real-time as I glare at his opponent, hoping he/she will crumble at the idea and possibility that thousands of people are transmitting a vast hatred for that person, that player, that obstacle preventing my favourite player from succeeding!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Enzyme
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia183 Posts
February 23 2011 08:39 GMT
#373
On February 23 2011 17:37 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 17:35 Enzyme wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:29 Enzyme wrote:
Thinking about it, why are they mentioning that it is live at all? Is there any difference between commentating live and just commentating on replays when you are going to delay the broadcast by a day? We aren't seeing the games live either way. People hate replays because it means that the game already occurred, it's over. If you are delaying the games anyway, why not just cast them from replays and be done with it.


If there's no difference, why make a problem of the distinction?


Well by mentioning they are commentating it live, they are making out like it's some fabulous feature, which it clearly isn't. They've even been capitalizing the word LIVE as if it's something amazing, when really it's no better than commentating on replays. In fact, they'd be better off just commentating on replays because then they wouldn't have to worry about delays and issues they could just record whenever they wanted. They are going out of their way to try and sell a meaningless "feature".


Aren't you making this issue or possible antic more of an issue than it really is?
What changes exactly besides your mindset? Do the games get better? Are the players supremely better if we watch them live?

If we pray to them knowing they're playing as we're praying, do they receive some otherworldly benediction?


While I would prefer to watch the games entirely live, that is not the point I am making at all.

I am not saying "THEY MUST BROADCAST THE GAMES LIVE!!!!"

I am saying "Given the fact they cannot broadcast the games live, why are they pretending that commentating them live makes any difference at all, and why are they doing this when replays would give the exact same experience with less effort on their end?"
Shaetan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1175 Posts
February 23 2011 08:41 GMT
#374
On February 23 2011 17:29 Enzyme wrote:
Thinking about it, why are they mentioning that it is live at all? Is there any difference between commentating live and just commentating on replays when you are going to delay the broadcast by a day? We aren't seeing the games live either way. People hate replays because it means that the game already occurred, it's over. If you are delaying the games anyway, why not just cast them from replays and be done with it.


Casting from replays requires syncing up of the commentators/observers etc. and can result in desynced casts (like the showmatch). This way at least the commentary will be synced to the games.
My Casts: www.youtube.com/Shaetan
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 23 2011 08:42 GMT
#375
On February 23 2011 17:39 Enzyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 17:37 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:35 Enzyme wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:29 Enzyme wrote:
Thinking about it, why are they mentioning that it is live at all? Is there any difference between commentating live and just commentating on replays when you are going to delay the broadcast by a day? We aren't seeing the games live either way. People hate replays because it means that the game already occurred, it's over. If you are delaying the games anyway, why not just cast them from replays and be done with it.


If there's no difference, why make a problem of the distinction?


Well by mentioning they are commentating it live, they are making out like it's some fabulous feature, which it clearly isn't. They've even been capitalizing the word LIVE as if it's something amazing, when really it's no better than commentating on replays. In fact, they'd be better off just commentating on replays because then they wouldn't have to worry about delays and issues they could just record whenever they wanted. They are going out of their way to try and sell a meaningless "feature".


Aren't you making this issue or possible antic more of an issue than it really is?
What changes exactly besides your mindset? Do the games get better? Are the players supremely better if we watch them live?

If we pray to them knowing they're playing as we're praying, do they receive some otherworldly benediction?


While I would prefer to watch the games entirely live, that is not the point I am making at all.

I am not saying "THEY MUST BROADCAST THE GAMES LIVE!!!!"

I am saying "Given the fact they cannot broadcast the games live, why are they pretending that commentating them live makes any difference at all, and why are they doing this when replays would give the exact same experience with less effort on their end?"


I have no idea.
Neither do you.
What changes? What difference does it make?

You're focusing on something so pointless and needless. Is that what you're going to do when watching the games? Ensure that everyone and their mother knows that this isn't "live" by one standard or another?

Or do you want to just watch some baller games and get over yourself.

Here's a question: why are they playing the U.S? Why aren't they play in Korea? What difference does it make? Why do they have a NASL when they can have in Canada since I'll be watching it from where I am which may be in another country and thus location is rather pointless.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
February 23 2011 08:46 GMT
#376
On February 23 2011 17:37 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 17:35 Enzyme wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:29 Enzyme wrote:
Thinking about it, why are they mentioning that it is live at all? Is there any difference between commentating live and just commentating on replays when you are going to delay the broadcast by a day? We aren't seeing the games live either way. People hate replays because it means that the game already occurred, it's over. If you are delaying the games anyway, why not just cast them from replays and be done with it.


If there's no difference, why make a problem of the distinction?


Well by mentioning they are commentating it live, they are making out like it's some fabulous feature, which it clearly isn't. They've even been capitalizing the word LIVE as if it's something amazing, when really it's no better than commentating on replays. In fact, they'd be better off just commentating on replays because then they wouldn't have to worry about delays and issues they could just record whenever they wanted. They are going out of their way to try and sell a meaningless "feature".


Aren't you making this issue or possible antic more of an issue than it really is?
What changes exactly besides your mindset? Do the games get better? Are the players supremely better if we watch them live?

If we pray to them knowing they're playing as we're praying, do they receive some otherworldly benediction?

If they play live and we cheer and chant their names into the starry night sky, will they feel our blessing? Will they feel our call for help, our need to see them succeed, to achieve the best of their abilities as we stare at the illuminated square of our monitor! Will they know that I am staring right at them, into their soul, feeling the pulse of their fingers as they apply several maneuvers in real-time as I glare at his opponent, hoping he/she will crumble at the idea and possibility that thousands of people are transmitting a vast hatred for that person, that player, that obstacle preventing my favourite player from succeeding!


It sounds dumb when you put it that way, and maybe it is, on a rational level, but its still important to me.

I get much less excited sitting down to watch the VOD of a game I missed from the GSL (even if it was going to be a huge epic game like Jinro vs Idra or something), than I do sitting down live knowing its going down right now.

I watched the HuK code a games live and danced around my room when he won the first game. If it was a VOD I would not have.

I can't explain it. But I guarantee you I'm far from alone in feeling this way.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 08:49:17
February 23 2011 08:48 GMT
#377
On February 23 2011 17:46 Dhalphir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 17:37 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:35 Enzyme wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:29 Enzyme wrote:
Thinking about it, why are they mentioning that it is live at all? Is there any difference between commentating live and just commentating on replays when you are going to delay the broadcast by a day? We aren't seeing the games live either way. People hate replays because it means that the game already occurred, it's over. If you are delaying the games anyway, why not just cast them from replays and be done with it.


If there's no difference, why make a problem of the distinction?


Well by mentioning they are commentating it live, they are making out like it's some fabulous feature, which it clearly isn't. They've even been capitalizing the word LIVE as if it's something amazing, when really it's no better than commentating on replays. In fact, they'd be better off just commentating on replays because then they wouldn't have to worry about delays and issues they could just record whenever they wanted. They are going out of their way to try and sell a meaningless "feature".


Aren't you making this issue or possible antic more of an issue than it really is?
What changes exactly besides your mindset? Do the games get better? Are the players supremely better if we watch them live?

If we pray to them knowing they're playing as we're praying, do they receive some otherworldly benediction?

If they play live and we cheer and chant their names into the starry night sky, will they feel our blessing? Will they feel our call for help, our need to see them succeed, to achieve the best of their abilities as we stare at the illuminated square of our monitor! Will they know that I am staring right at them, into their soul, feeling the pulse of their fingers as they apply several maneuvers in real-time as I glare at his opponent, hoping he/she will crumble at the idea and possibility that thousands of people are transmitting a vast hatred for that person, that player, that obstacle preventing my favourite player from succeeding!


It sounds dumb when you put it that way, and maybe it is, on a rational level, but its still important to me.

I get much less excited sitting down to watch the VOD of a game I missed from the GSL (even if it was going to be a huge epic game like Jinro vs Idra or something), than I do sitting down live knowing its going down right now.

I watched the HuK code a games live and danced around my room when he won the first game. If it was a VOD I would not have.

I can't explain it. But I guarantee you I'm far from alone in feeling this way.


No, I know the feeling. I was the same way at first: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ostrich Syndrome

If I ignore it's not Live, it becomes irrelevant.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
February 23 2011 08:50 GMT
#378
On February 23 2011 17:48 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 17:46 Dhalphir wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:37 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:35 Enzyme wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:29 Enzyme wrote:
Thinking about it, why are they mentioning that it is live at all? Is there any difference between commentating live and just commentating on replays when you are going to delay the broadcast by a day? We aren't seeing the games live either way. People hate replays because it means that the game already occurred, it's over. If you are delaying the games anyway, why not just cast them from replays and be done with it.


If there's no difference, why make a problem of the distinction?


Well by mentioning they are commentating it live, they are making out like it's some fabulous feature, which it clearly isn't. They've even been capitalizing the word LIVE as if it's something amazing, when really it's no better than commentating on replays. In fact, they'd be better off just commentating on replays because then they wouldn't have to worry about delays and issues they could just record whenever they wanted. They are going out of their way to try and sell a meaningless "feature".


Aren't you making this issue or possible antic more of an issue than it really is?
What changes exactly besides your mindset? Do the games get better? Are the players supremely better if we watch them live?

If we pray to them knowing they're playing as we're praying, do they receive some otherworldly benediction?

If they play live and we cheer and chant their names into the starry night sky, will they feel our blessing? Will they feel our call for help, our need to see them succeed, to achieve the best of their abilities as we stare at the illuminated square of our monitor! Will they know that I am staring right at them, into their soul, feeling the pulse of their fingers as they apply several maneuvers in real-time as I glare at his opponent, hoping he/she will crumble at the idea and possibility that thousands of people are transmitting a vast hatred for that person, that player, that obstacle preventing my favourite player from succeeding!


It sounds dumb when you put it that way, and maybe it is, on a rational level, but its still important to me.

I get much less excited sitting down to watch the VOD of a game I missed from the GSL (even if it was going to be a huge epic game like Jinro vs Idra or something), than I do sitting down live knowing its going down right now.

I watched the HuK code a games live and danced around my room when he won the first game. If it was a VOD I would not have.

I can't explain it. But I guarantee you I'm far from alone in feeling this way.


No, I know the feeling. I was the same way at first: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ostrich Syndrome

If I ignore it's not Live, it becomes irrelevant.


ye i just look at my wall and pretend im watching a starcraft game
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
Skrelt
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands306 Posts
February 23 2011 08:52 GMT
#379
the 2 questions i read above me about map pool where ignored, so 3th lucky charm??

What is the map pool gonna be like? A ESL example, where you work together with iccup? (saw much good games on those maps) or a more GSL like mappool? Or just gonna create your own maps? or does the ladder diced your map pool?
The Wolfpack - Metalband from the Netherlands
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
February 23 2011 08:52 GMT
#380
On February 23 2011 17:48 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 17:46 Dhalphir wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:37 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:35 Enzyme wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 23 2011 17:29 Enzyme wrote:
Thinking about it, why are they mentioning that it is live at all? Is there any difference between commentating live and just commentating on replays when you are going to delay the broadcast by a day? We aren't seeing the games live either way. People hate replays because it means that the game already occurred, it's over. If you are delaying the games anyway, why not just cast them from replays and be done with it.


If there's no difference, why make a problem of the distinction?


Well by mentioning they are commentating it live, they are making out like it's some fabulous feature, which it clearly isn't. They've even been capitalizing the word LIVE as if it's something amazing, when really it's no better than commentating on replays. In fact, they'd be better off just commentating on replays because then they wouldn't have to worry about delays and issues they could just record whenever they wanted. They are going out of their way to try and sell a meaningless "feature".


Aren't you making this issue or possible antic more of an issue than it really is?
What changes exactly besides your mindset? Do the games get better? Are the players supremely better if we watch them live?

If we pray to them knowing they're playing as we're praying, do they receive some otherworldly benediction?

If they play live and we cheer and chant their names into the starry night sky, will they feel our blessing? Will they feel our call for help, our need to see them succeed, to achieve the best of their abilities as we stare at the illuminated square of our monitor! Will they know that I am staring right at them, into their soul, feeling the pulse of their fingers as they apply several maneuvers in real-time as I glare at his opponent, hoping he/she will crumble at the idea and possibility that thousands of people are transmitting a vast hatred for that person, that player, that obstacle preventing my favourite player from succeeding!


It sounds dumb when you put it that way, and maybe it is, on a rational level, but its still important to me.

I get much less excited sitting down to watch the VOD of a game I missed from the GSL (even if it was going to be a huge epic game like Jinro vs Idra or something), than I do sitting down live knowing its going down right now.

I watched the HuK code a games live and danced around my room when he won the first game. If it was a VOD I would not have.

I can't explain it. But I guarantee you I'm far from alone in feeling this way.


No, I know the feeling. I was the same way at first: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ostrich Syndrome

If I ignore it's not Live, it becomes irrelevant.


Not as easy as you make it sound for most people. Some don't have the mental visualization ability.

The interface for the VODs being totally different to the stream also doesn't help with this. If I could pull up the entire show as one video on demand instead of having to click for every new game it would help the suspension of disbelief a lot.
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