EPT[Q&A] Official NASL Thread - Page 17
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FrostyTreats
United States355 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
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aristarchus
United States652 Posts
On February 23 2011 14:45 FrostyTreats wrote: question How long is a season? 13 weeks I believe... please read people. | ||
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
On February 23 2011 13:38 Xeris wrote: LIVE Games?: The games will be cast live! When will the games be broadcast vs when they are cast? This depends on the production. Everything will follow a schedule of broadcasting, etc. We will produce an amazing product, that's what I can say. Basically, can't give 100% answer about this because we are still working on improving our product and getting everything right for launch! Xeris you guys are awfully close at being completely deceptive on this LIVE! thing. I understand it from a marketing prospective but, NOTHING about this is live and you guys are trying to sell it as hard as you can that it is. I wish you guys would just be honest and completely upfront and stop using the word LIVE. Everything is recorded and shown at a later date. That is EXACTLY what's happening. There is no LIVE about being shown a recording of previous events even if the reactions from the casters were of the LIVE event. I would also stop since I have no doubt in my mind that you guys will run into technical difficulties(comps crashing, bad takes, and schedules) and some games will be played earlier than they are supposed to and then casted from replays at a later date. It WILL happen, it's the nature of an online event dealing with several time zones and the timespan you guys are dealing with. Don't hide the replay bar area if you are confident these issues will never occur and we'll always be getting a LIVE! cast. I am planning on supporting this but, the fact that you guys continue to play this as a LIVE! event is a huge downer. Again, be upfront and honest and let people make the decision if they want to buy a ticket to a nightly scheduled playback of VOD's for 2 months. I plan on buying it knowing what it truly is but, you guys are just asking for a flame fest when Zero Hour rolls around and people who tuned in realize they are just watching VOD's on a schedule of what they THOUGHT/EXPECTED to be a LIVE sporting event. | ||
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hadhubhi
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Sobba
Sweden576 Posts
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warshop
Canada490 Posts
On February 23 2011 14:58 Hrrrrm wrote: Xeris you guys are awfully close at being completely deceptive on this LIVE! thing. I understand it from a marketing prospective but, NOTHING about this is live and you guys are trying to sell it as hard as you can that it is. I wish you guys would just be honest and completely upfront and stop using the word LIVE. Everything is recorded and shown at a later date. That is EXACTLY what's happening. There is no LIVE about being shown a recording of previous events even if the reactions from the casters were of the LIVE event. I would also stop since I have no doubt in my mind that you guys will run into technical difficulties(comps crashing, bad takes, and schedules) and some games will be played earlier than they are supposed to and then casted from replays at a later date. It WILL happen, it's the nature of an online event dealing with several time zones and the timespan you guys are dealing with. Don't hide the replay bar area if you are confident these issues will never occur and we'll always be getting a LIVE! cast. I am planning on supporting this but, the fact that you guys continue to play this as a LIVE! event is a huge downer. Again, be upfront and honest and let people make the decision if they want to buy a ticket to a nightly scheduled playback of VOD's for 2 months. I plan on buying it knowing what it truly is but, you guys are just asking for a flame fest when Zero Hour rolls around and people who tuned in realize they are just watching VOD's on a schedule of what they THOUGHT/EXPECTED to be a LIVE sporting event. I seriously don't think that they've ever been anything other than upfront. The problem probably lies with the questions asked. It will be live as the recording will happen live during the games. As Xeris pointed that, there's a huge difference between recording and broadcasting. The broadcasting will be delayed, how long, I cannot say (I think they mentioned it on SotG, but I wasn't listening to it yet). It's all the better for us. You have to take into count that games are played from the player houses. That said, it is in our best interest, as watchers, to have the broadcast delayed. NA is not like Korea, it is not logistically realistic to have players flown to the studio to play (obviously). Seriously, if NASL gets the numbers, we never know where this could end up. This could be the very beginning of eSports as a profitable profession in the West. | ||
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
On February 23 2011 16:07 warshop wrote: I seriously don't think that they've ever been anything other than upfront. The problem probably lies with the questions asked. It will be live as the recording will happen live during the games. As Xeris pointed that, there's a huge difference between recording and broadcasting. The broadcasting will be delayed, how long, I cannot say (I think they mentioned it on SotG, but I wasn't listening to it yet). It's all the better for us. You have to take into count that games are played from the player houses. That said, it is in our best interest, as watchers, to have the broadcast delayed. NA is not like Korea, it is not logistically realistic to have players flown to the studio to play (obviously). Seriously, if NASL gets the numbers, we never know where this could end up. This could be the very beginning of eSports as a profitable profession in the West. If foreigners can fly to korea and get a house in a foreign country without speaking the language (lots of foreigners have flown out there not many have qualified) I dont see how the logistics for north americans in a north american tournament (and foreigners if they are serious about it). What i do understand is the money isnt there for it yet, but in the future i dont see why they couldnt do this. It would be more accesible for north americans and europeans alike compared to korea. If people arent serious enough to be living in the place of a tournament with such a huge prize pool then i dont even know if i want to watch them play i want to watch pro gamers whos proffesion is starcraft | ||
Adebisi
Canada1637 Posts
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warshop
Canada490 Posts
On February 23 2011 16:14 cheesemaster wrote: If foreigners can fly to korea and get a house in a foreign country without speaking the language (lots of foreigners have flown out there not many have qualified) I dont see how the logistics for north americans in a north american tournament (and foreigners if they are serious about it). What i do understand is the money isnt there for it yet, but in the future i dont see why they couldnt do this. It would be more accesible for north americans and europeans alike compared to korea. If people arent serious enough to be living in the place of a tournament with such a huge prize pool then i dont even know if i want to watch them play i want to watch pro gamers whos proffesion is starcraft Because we are not there yet in the West. NASL is trying to make it, but one small step at a time. Yes, foreigners are going to Korea, but you do have to notice the small portion of players actually going there. I mean, housing 50 players is not an easy feature per season. Players do not want to move out for just a season, hence their teams need to back them up. Granted, if every team out there was willing to buy a house in LA to have them play in the studio, it would be feasible, but I doubt there's that many team that can achieve this at the current state of eSports in the West. Also, you have to take into account that Korea is not North America. They have a decade of eSports experience, where we basically have none (at least, comparing proportion). In the end, I'm sorry if you only want to watch pro gamers who's profession is Starcraft 2, but as a player, what interests me is the game in the end. You can have dedicated players, such as Hyperdub, who is probably a great guy, but I mean, I hope to god I will not have to watch his game against oGsMC again. On a side note, most of the players who will compete in NASL are dedicated to SC2, but that doesn't even matter. | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
On February 23 2011 16:07 warshop wrote: I seriously don't think that they've ever been anything other than upfront. The problem probably lies with the questions asked. It will be live as the recording will happen live during the games. As Xeris pointed that, there's a huge difference between recording and broadcasting. The broadcasting will be delayed, how long, I cannot say (I think they mentioned it on SotG, but I wasn't listening to it yet). It's all the better for us. You have to take into count that games are played from the player houses. That said, it is in our best interest, as watchers, to have the broadcast delayed. NA is not like Korea, it is not logistically realistic to have players flown to the studio to play (obviously). Seriously, if NASL gets the numbers, we never know where this could end up. This could be the very beginning of eSports as a profitable profession in the West. Recording is always live, you can't NOT record something live. If they choose to broadcast at a different time than they record, then the broadcast itself is NOT LIVE. Just because they record them casting the games live, does not actually make the games live if they broadcast a day later. Take a movie for example, movies are clearly shot "live" but are released as productions that we clearly consider "not live." | ||
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warshop
Canada490 Posts
On February 23 2011 16:26 ch33psh33p wrote: Recording is always live, you can't NOT record something live. If they choose to broadcast at a different time than they record, then the broadcast itself is NOT LIVE. Just because they record them casting the games live, does not actually make the games live if they broadcast a day later. Take a movie for example, movies are clearly shot "live" but are released as productions that we clearly consider "not live." I'm sorry, perhaps I wasn't explaining it right. In short, the games will have been played at the same time of the commentary, hence the "live recording". It won't be from replays. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
1. Games are commentated in real-time as they are played Which is different from this process. 2. Game is played 2.2 Game is commentated after its already been played. | ||
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warshop
Canada490 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
On February 23 2011 16:37 Torte de Lini wrote: When they mean live. They mean the following: 1. Games are commentated in real-time as they are played Which is different from this process. 2. Game is played 2.2 Game is commentated after its already been played. however, no one actually thinks that when they see "games casted live," they expect a live stream. xeris is a smart guy, i'd be surprised if he didn't know that's how most people will interpret what he wrote. the way he wrote it could easily confuse some people. | ||
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Cuddle
Sweden1345 Posts
I know EU isn't your main demographic I just want to make you guys aware that we have GSL live in the morning/early and it would be awesome if it did not collide with the rebroadcast of NASL. It's not a huge deal but I for one would appreciate not having to chose. If there are no major technical issues with having the rebroadcast in the afternoon, please consider it. | ||
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warshop
Canada490 Posts
On February 23 2011 16:44 Cuddle wrote: @Xeris: I know EU isn't your main demographic I just want to make you guys aware that we have GSL live in the morning/early and it would be awesome if it did not collide with the rebroadcast of NASL. It's not a huge deal but I for one would appreciate not having to chose. If there are no major technical issues with having the rebroadcast in the afternoon, please consider it. Rebroadcast of the NASL will be at 18:00 CET. It was confirmed on SotG. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On February 23 2011 16:43 rauk wrote: however, no one actually thinks that when they see "games casted live," they expect a live stream. xeris is a smart guy, i'd be surprised if he didn't know that's how most people will interpret what he wrote. the way he wrote it could easily confuse some people. I think he assumed that everyone would have the ostrich syndrome. If the information isn't there, there is no problem. If you didn't know that this is what they meant by "live" would you have had a problem? | ||
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Rampager
Australia1007 Posts
2. Game is played 2.2 Game is commentated after its already been played. This isn't the process. It's: 2. Game is played and commentators are there as it happens and casting it. 2.2. A day later, with all the delays/bullshit cut out and post-production/music/graphics put in, the game (already commentated.) is broadcast to us. 2.3. Everyone is happy as a clam because that's a seriously great way to do it. Keep doing what your doing Xeris, major props for the work you guys are putting into this. edit: This wasn't aimed at Torte, I read your post, and I definitely meant to expand on 1. rather than 2. Just clarifying. | ||
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