On February 17 2011 12:59 Loser777 wrote:
Lactic Acid is not responsible for muscle soreness or fatigue--and lactic ACID is definitely not produced in muscle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactic_acid

in support of "lactate does not cause acidosis"

The acidosis that is associated with increases in lactate concentration during heavy exercise arises from a separate reaction

in support of "lactate does cause acidosis"

The effect of lactate on acidosis has been the topic of many recent conferences in the field of exercise physiology
..
Lactate is a strong anion, and causes a reduction in [SID], which causes an increase in [H+] to maintain electroneutrality.

GagnarTheUnruly

United States655 Posts

February 17 2011 04:21 GMT

#24

Apparently lactate doesn't get protonated (converted to lactic acid) under normal conditions in the muscle, so technically it always exists as lactate in the muscle. But muscles definitely produce lactate.

The only difference between lactate and lactic acid is one weakly bound hydrogen ion.

Typhon

United States387 Posts

February 17 2011 04:21 GMT

#25

oops, i fail at posting

ROOTdrewbie

Canada1392 Posts

February 17 2011 04:22 GMT

#26

thats not lactic acid thats carpal tunnel !

Ridiculisk

Australia191 Posts

February 17 2011 04:27 GMT

#27

I sometimes begin to feel stiff after playing for a few hours.

Just get up and move around a bit inbetween games. Have a stretch, it always makes me feel better.

(I go outside, have a smoke, get a drink, w/e)

It's probably just because your sitting in a position where your not exactly relaxed for extended periods of time.

Yoshi Kirishima

United States10325 Posts

February 17 2011 04:28 GMT

#28

thats not lactic acid thats carpal tunnel !

Ok this is really starting to scare me. Or rather, I am quite worried right now. This seems to happen most commonly with people 30-60? I'm only 16. WTF!!!

Reading more about this, it seems quite likely. Weak hand grip? I always felt I couldn't hold my hand in a fist tightly. Repetitive motions?

It seems however this isn't really a disease or something? How do I get rid of it? This article says I might need a splint. Wtffff

Mood: disappointed.

NearPerfection

232 Posts

February 17 2011 04:31 GMT

#29

You can get lactic acid from APM? My wrists will give out long before my arm ever does.

HentaiPrime

Canada85 Posts

February 17 2011 04:33 GMT

#30

it could be that your table is too high (or your chair too low)

u can test it by just sitting on a pillow while u play, maybe u won't experience the numbness then

megagoten

318 Posts

February 17 2011 04:33 GMT

#31

you are probably sitting wrong.

B-Wong

United States240 Posts

February 17 2011 04:35 GMT

#32

Just like working out you get "ripped". Some muscles get burnt down with lactic acid but they build up stronger over time. The faster that you increase your APM, the more accustomed your muscles will be and in time it won't be a bother to do 150+ APM.

GinDo

3327 Posts

February 17 2011 04:40 GMT

#33

On February 17 2011 13:28 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:

Show nested quote +

Well TLO has Carpal and Day9(i think he always talks about his carpal tunnel pillow

) and their pretty young. Take it easy on the videogames. And when you play move your wrists around in circles to warm up.

TheRPGAddict

United States1403 Posts

February 17 2011 04:42 GMT

#34

Just play more and your fingers will get used to it. To whomever said "I am not fat, I dont work out but I am athletic". Just because someone is skinny/not fat does not mean that they are in shape and vice versa. Thats a very misunderstood conception. Being in physical shape or not should not matter in terms of physicality capability playing starcraft but rather mental endurance.

Yoshi Kirishima

United States10325 Posts

February 17 2011 04:45 GMT

#35

True, and I guess sharing that didn't help much.

-orb-

United States5770 Posts

February 17 2011 04:49 GMT

#36

I have no idea what you're talking about O_O

Maintaining 200+ apm isn't something that takes a lot of effort, although trying extra hard to be extra fast might.

There's no specific apm though, it's how much is "too high" for each person to maintain without effort I guess...

The whole thing seems pretty weird to me since i don't feel strain when my apm increases

Oxb

199 Posts

February 17 2011 04:53 GMT

#37

I've never felt that before while playing SC2 myself, thought it might be because you do something wrong as some people said. I mean, how relaxed in your arm while playing, not relaxed at all ,else this Lactic Acid won't realy happen. Both my arm are perfectly relax while playing, even when things are getting tight.
I doubt progamers have such a problem, if you'd run like a proffesional football player you'd get your lactic acid in your legs, a proffesional football player won't 'just get that'.

Fdragon

United States96 Posts

February 17 2011 05:05 GMT

#38

Hand Stretches.
I would give you a link to some but I cant find any.
There amazing and keep your hands limber but don't over do it or you'll dislocate your fingers.

Decko

United States150 Posts

February 17 2011 05:39 GMT

#39

Day 9 does some good stretches on his Mechanics daily, I've used them for years before playing guitar. Honestly I was getting some feeling of carpel tunnel when i was around 15, I know it sounds weird but playing guitar removed any sense of it what so ever. Guitar physically changes your left hand, it builds muscle in it and makes it incredibly flexible. Even if you don't learn how to play, get a really crappy acoustic guitar and try and do basic hand drills for 30 minutes. You'll get massive amounts of lactic acid, but eventually you can actually flex the muscles in your hand and they're noticeable. I get no pain in my wrists, hands or arms. I haven't had any feeling what so ever like carpel tunnel in years.

Some people get carpel tunnel from playing guitar, and it's because they bend their wrist too much, if you have proper form it's one of the best hand exercises in the world.

Neo.NEt

United States785 Posts

February 17 2011 05:45 GMT

#40

I'm not a doctor or a scientist but last time I checked you get lactic acid when you workout for too long... I'm talking like heavy squats here... not playing starcraft. I would be shocked if lactic acid was playing a key role in anybody's starcraft games... but I'm not a doctor.