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mufin
United States616 Posts
On February 06 2011 10:12 Megaliskuu wrote: Yup I say gg every game therefore I'm the best player in the world. Get a fucking clue kid. Idra took down the best sc2 player in the world. "your not my father!!11!!11!!" | ||
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Highways
Australia6120 Posts
http://www.justin.tv/24california/b/278893657 source | ||
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Bond(i2)
Canada926 Posts
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zergules
United States55 Posts
On February 06 2011 04:52 seffer wrote: It is the real mvp, but I don't know why he didn't just end it with that 2 base push around the 8-9 in-game minute mark. He backed up instead. It's entirely possible he knew the game was won, but wanted the chance to practice his macro TvZ against one of the few people who could provide a challenge. Thanks Artosis for casting it. I've already seen the video, but I'll watch your casted version for anything I missed the first time. Great game! | ||
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mufin
United States616 Posts
On February 06 2011 11:21 Bond(i2) wrote: It's depressing as a zerg user to see that MVP had 60% of Idras supply for pretty much the whole game, but still almost won on multiple occasions. T_T meh you can't judge a zvX game in that manner. on 3-4 bases+, zerg's strength comes from their 300 food push not from being slightly ahead in food count. | ||
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Warrice
United States565 Posts
On February 06 2011 11:21 Bond(i2) wrote: It's depressing as a zerg user to see that MVP had 60% of Idras supply for pretty much the whole game, but still almost won on multiple occasions. T_T mvp never really almost won" he went for a 2 base timing attack and didnt follow through, he was behind but held on for pretty much the rest of the game. | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
how the hell do you spread your marines like that? | ||
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Inflexion
Canada560 Posts
On February 06 2011 11:21 Bond(i2) wrote: It's depressing as a zerg user to see that MVP had 60% of Idras supply for pretty much the whole game, but still almost won on multiple occasions. T_T I don't get what you're getting at. If Terran was even supply with Zerg the entire game, Zerg will get rolled every game because Terran units are way more cost effective. This is by design. Terran has cost effective and very defensive units while Zerg relies on a lot of bases, flanking and superior supply to 'throw' at the Terran. The rest comes down to decision making and player performance..... This is how the game should be played and what 'more' games should be like. What's the problem at the moment is that the game never gets to this stage because of the strength of 2raxing, bunker rushes, cheese, close positions, etc.... Now, you're complaining about how 'depressing' it is?......... This is a great game and this is how the game should be played. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On February 06 2011 11:01 lolsixtynine wrote: Leaving a game on ladder with no gg =/= rage quitting And Defacer, I don't see why it's a strategic weakness. If anything, attracting asshole behavior from other players is a competitive advantage. If someone plays differently from their normal behavior, they'll be playing suboptimally; the same concept applies in poker (more so there, but still somewhat here). I'm just talking about this specific example today, GuineaPig was being obnoxious on IdrA's stream, trying to make him tilt. IdrA didn't ... but he also lost. The loss is a coincidence. IdrA doesn't tilt often, but he has a rep for being tilt-able. So people don't play him the same way. You think it's a good thing, but I've seen IdrA lose to a lot of bunker rushes and 2-rax bullshit. Yes, people are changing the way they play for IdrA, but my gut tells me IdrA gets the short end of the stick 90% of the time. Who's tilting who here? IdrA been good at staying true to his macro-style, and playing the 'right way,' but all this all-in cheese is why you see players like Fruitdealer almost dropping out of Code S -- he's going away from what he's good at and trying his own paranoid all-ins. But that's probably a separate issue. | ||
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
On February 06 2011 11:26 FliedLice wrote: my facial expression at 19minutes: O_O how the hell do you spread your marines like that? 5 control groups and then manual splitting of the groups if you have time/apm to spare On February 06 2011 11:01 lolsixtynine wrote: Leaving a game on ladder with no gg =/= rage quitting Exactly. No gg = wasn't a good game. People throw out gg's for no reason, not saying it doesn't mean anything important. Cussing your opponent out then leaving does. | ||
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Aquafresh
United States824 Posts
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Gorguts
Canada254 Posts
On February 06 2011 11:34 Aquafresh wrote: Watching this from IdrA's fpview I didn't realize how late MVPs third was. I knew he missed the stim timing attack because he thought there was a base at 9 but it looks like the big ass 2 base push that IdrA delayed by catching those tanks and medivacs was designed to end the game right there. It wasn't until MVP abandoned that position that he took his 3rd and he was behind from that point onward. his stim timing attack might have won the game if he committed, idra's baneling nest wasnt even done when MVP was near his creep. you could tell MVP was afraid of banelings because he only sent the marauders in to kill the creep tumor. | ||
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Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
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BeyondCtrL
Sweden642 Posts
For those who are debating whether IMMvp conciously decided to make it a "practice" game or simply thought IdrA had the units to deal with his push please stop. I bet you both players made every decision in the game thinking they would win. So either way Mvp was betting on himself, he didn't "let the game go", It was a bold, beautiful, and brutal game. 5/5 | ||
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Xirdain
United States28 Posts
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Mindflow
Korea (South)320 Posts
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SlapMySalami
United States1060 Posts
On February 06 2011 11:24 mufin wrote: meh you can't judge a zvX game in that manner. on 3-4 bases+, zerg's strength comes from their 300 food push not from being slightly ahead in food count. 300 food push is day9s term for ZvP 300 food push is pretty much impossible for ZvT. If you win the engagement with your first army it's GG you win. If you lose with your first army he still has enough units to finish you off and will gain such a good position by sieging in your base that it is GG for you. | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
On February 06 2011 11:26 FliedLice wrote: my facial expression at 19minutes: O_O how the hell do you spread your marines like that? yup probably the best micro move I have seen in the game. This is the kind of stuff we were all whining for during beta. | ||
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legendre20
United States316 Posts
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Deekin[
Serbia1713 Posts
On February 06 2011 10:01 flanksteak wrote: He has a live stream, which he provides, for everyone to see; both his wins and losses. So no, you don't get to make drive by snide comments about someone, especially when you're wrong. Wow you seem to not have any clue of what you talking about. Im not talking about his stream. Im talking about the replays that he gives to Artosis and that Artosis commentates. Its been around 5-6 videos like that where Artosis commentates Idras games and all of them he have won. So its not that exciting to watch when you know who wins. | ||
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