I think this is definitely a good idea. I for one would like to learn more than my main race, but I'm reluctant to do so based on the fact that I don't want my ladder ranking to tank while I get better with a different race.

Cybren

United States206 Posts

January 16 2011 21:13 GMT

#82

no guys Blizzard is owned by Activision.

Vivendi merged with Activision. The company that they formed is called Activision-Blizzard.

Blizzard (the developers) are a company under that.

Blindo

United States102 Posts

January 16 2011 21:16 GMT

#83

On January 16 2011 11:57 danl9rm wrote:
multiple characters? no.

separate ratings per race? maybe.

This. It wouldn't be fair for bronzies to have to deal with diamond players who have a smurf account to steamroll noobs. You should also be able to selectively hide any account information. That way pros can hide build orders, ranking, or anything else.

MuteZephyr

Lithuania448 Posts

January 16 2011 21:18 GMT

#84

On January 16 2011 11:57 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
I think a better solution would be to give each account 4 1v1 ladder standings depending on Race used.

This is the best solution IMO. Unfortunately this will increase smurfing as well, but not nearly as bad as extra accounts will.

The smurfing was absolutely terrible in BW, not to mention people weren't as accountable for their actions. Now, if you do some stupid shit like hack or harass people, you can't hide behind different accounts. Thank god blizz tied personal info to our accounts, it prevents BNet from falling apart into the cesspool of pornographic maps, hacking, and smurfing that the original did (EDIT: oxford comma FTW).

seodoth

Netherlands315 Posts

January 16 2011 21:19 GMT

#85

if it results in being able to smurf ( aside from buying another sc2) = no
cant believe people saying they dont mind smurfinge.. That is what destroyed sc1 and wc3 online play for me. No way to play people of my skill lvl and to grow consistently better.

danielsan

Romania399 Posts

January 16 2011 21:23 GMT

#86

4 1v1 ladder standings depending on Race used is the most reasonable but reason is not an argument when considering profit. so it's not likely to happen.

TWIX_Heaven

Denmark169 Posts

January 16 2011 21:46 GMT

#87

I think that there is many smart ways that this could be handled.

For example you could have a system where you had one account, but you had access to maybe 4 "characters". These could be for different races, practice, or whatnot. All of these would share account name and then have unique character names, ie. Flash.Main (whatever in not trying to be creative here) for one character and maybe Flash.Alt for number two. All the characters shared MMR and they all linked to the same account. This way there basically is no smurfing, if you wanted to smurf for real you would still have to buy another copy. BUT it would allow people to practice their off-race or whatever. Like when in WoW, people would exploit changing teams to get points and high ranking, but then blizzard made it so that your MMR stayed even though you changed teams, this is basically the same idea.

It would mean however that people would prolly not care much about their off-characters and hence the ladder experience would be somewhat lower - for some. But since a character name would always be followed by a account "name" so to say, people would still know who they where playing. So say i was in plat and i meet a player called LiquidTLO.Wazzaduude959 i could clearly see that it was in fact just TLO smurfing my plat ass hardcore, but then i won and because TLO's MMR is so high i would intantly be promoted to masters and get an invite for GSl (seeded to semis ofcourse) - nah im just kidding but seriously this would be a system were everybody kinda wins and can have characters for all kinds of stuff. Like also team clans, you could have names like BeyOND.teamTwix for playing with your friends also called teamTwix? yeah? yeah? cool right?! :D

but not to worry, i think someday blizzard will implement something like this, but it will prolly cost us the green. for reals!

anyways!

MousecL1ck1

187 Posts

January 16 2011 21:52 GMT

#88

I hate smurfing so I don't mind the one character per account. I don't think it will be implemented in the future anyway, seems like this is how Blizzard wants to roll.

SCdinner

Canada516 Posts

January 16 2011 21:55 GMT

#89

Yes I think its general consciencious that people should have a different ladder for each race. Furthermore I have no idea why blizzard won't let us see our win ratios for every matchup. I was looking forward to seeing that since they released the profiles in the beta but I have received no word on it yet

Joroth

United States318 Posts

January 16 2011 21:56 GMT

#90

I agree i wanna septate ladder rating for other races D:

Mercury-

Great Britain804 Posts

January 16 2011 21:57 GMT

#91

Multiple accounts and full region switching/access should have been in the game since the beginning.

flodeskum

Iceland1267 Posts

January 16 2011 21:58 GMT

#92

On January 17 2011 06:23 danielsan wrote:
4 1v1 ladder standings depending on Race used is the most reasonable but reason is not an argument when considering profit. so it's not likely to happen.

4 1v1 ladder standings is hardly reasonable, would lead to a lot of account sharing and smurfing.

A single additional standing for offracing would be more than enough tbh, and I doubt we'll ever see that.

CherubDown

United States171 Posts

January 16 2011 21:59 GMT

#93

"I actually prefer paying 60 dollars for a new account," he exclaimed with great sarcasm.

ArtOfRandom

United States36 Posts

January 16 2011 22:19 GMT

#94

Smurfing pretty much ruined WC3 ladder for casual players, but yeah seperate race rankings shoulda been in the game.

imyzhang

Canada809 Posts

January 16 2011 22:19 GMT

#95

i do want multiple chars per acc, but i can see why blizz wants to go against this. but i really DO WANT clan tag support -_-

numLoCK

Canada1416 Posts

January 16 2011 22:35 GMT

#96

Smurfs don't really ruin the experience for me and I really enjoy having multiple accounts, so I voted yes. There is probably a much better way to deal with smurfs anyway, its not like each account starts at 0 and works its way up like on iccup, smurfs will have to tank their new accounts to stomp the bottom level players anyway.

Herculix

United States946 Posts

January 16 2011 22:44 GMT

#97

i voted yes.

this is not the same thing as smurfing you guys. smurfing is to be able to have infinity accounts to constantly reset your ranking when you are not satisfied with your record. keyword, INFINITY.

if you have multiple characters yet the amount you can make is limited, and if you can look at someone's account and see all of the names they have registered under the account, because you are in the end still using 1 master account, at most you can only smurf as many times as you have characters, and then you'll be back to square 1, having to pay money for more smurfs. there will be a sudden influx of players playing higher than their placement ranking if this was implemented but it will come to balance out and there will be nothing like wc3.

MMR is also very strong at ranking your skill, you will be matched against players your level in no time even if your visible ranking doesn't reflect that. you can see it at work if you have ever watched someone like Huk stream when they get a new account on a different server, where they're like rank 1500 diamond but playing korean top 200 players who are ranked 3k+.

alternatively to separate characters, and i think it's a better solution which has been suggested many times, is to have MMR be dependant on the race you're playing on that account. it removes the anonymity but still gives you the proper MMR you would have if you are off-racing, since you are not as good with your off-race and MMR should reflect that.

Kippers

United Kingdom100 Posts

January 16 2011 23:02 GMT

#98

I vote yes so long as your limited to 3 accounts [1 a race].
Keeps smurfing to a minimum, and helps people get more practice with different races without lowering their MMR.

Torpedo.Vegas

United States1890 Posts

January 16 2011 23:21 GMT

#99

3 accounts times how many million sales is still a 2:1 smurf to actual account ratio.

I Hott Sauce I

United States91 Posts

January 16 2011 23:30 GMT

#100

Custom matches???