EPT[Poll]Multiple Characters for one Account? - Page 2
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SCdinner
Canada516 Posts
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
 but on the flip side, there isnt too much happening on the sea servers. | ||
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lindn
Sweden833 Posts
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Reptilia
Chile913 Posts
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nitdkim
1264 Posts
On January 16 2011 11:57 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: I think a better solution would be to give each account 4 1v1 ladder standings depending on Race used. but blizzard doesn't falter to common sense... | ||
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AirbladeOrange
United States2573 Posts
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woozie
Sweden53 Posts
On January 16 2011 15:38 AirbladeOrange wrote: Having multiple accounts would lead to the ladder being even more meaningless than it already is. People will probably be too concerned with their win/loss ratio on their main account. People would also be more inclined to try really dumb strategies or just do things to piss you off. It would not be best for the game as a whole. Well, without this feature I feel that you're kinda "stuck" into one or two main races that you can be competitive with; if you start playing your worst race, you'll probably not have a very good time since you're completely outmatched. Griefers/smurfers could be a problem, but couldn't you just report those people and have their entire account suspended for a while? | ||
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dmillz
Canada270 Posts
On January 16 2011 12:50 Deja Thoris wrote: From Blizzards point of view they are a business and in it to make money. The $60 you pay for a copy of starcraft represents the time and effort spent developing the game. Crucially it also pays for the battlenet servers, maintenance and so on. Your $60 buys you an account on their servers. Want multiple accounts? Pay multiple fees! This pretty much. While I agree it would be nice to have different rankings for each race, why would Blizzard want to do that when currently you pay for the same feature. | ||
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lowlypawn
United States241 Posts
On January 16 2011 13:16 PraetorianX wrote: I would vote no 1000 times if I could. I hate smurfing and multiple accounts because: A) You never know who's who B) It breeds stat-obsession C) Peope would be less serious about winning and less reliable, especially in random games Exactly, having lived the WC3 smurf festival first hand this is such a superior experience. In WC3 you basically had total anonymity. This lead to tons of griefing, team killing and a ridiculous amount of smurfing. Many probably don't remember when the ladder matched by level only. A decent player could get to level 10,11,12 fairly easy with only a hand full of losses. They could manage record of 90-5 or some crazy shit like that, It was ridiculous. Then right when the smurf actually started to face some real competition they would make a new account and repeat the cycle. It was a new player nightmare. Then Blizzard came out with the patch 1.15 in WC3 that radically changed the matchmaking system, it matched by skill (ELL, expected ladder level). Oh my $%^^& god, the crying and whining was out of control. In fact it reminds me a lot of this current topic. Eventually people came to accept matchmaking systems that match by skill (like true-skill and SC2), not level or stats that can be easily manipulated. Which is what brings me to another point. When you bought SC2, YOU bought it so YOU can play it. A single copy of SC2 does not entitle you to multiple accounts for your brother, brothers friends and a few extra accounts you can smuf on... Your family and friends can come over the play the campaign, but if they want to get serious about online they need their own account... I see nothing wrong with this and it make good business sense. I hope Blizzard makes a $%^& ton of money from SC2 so they will continue to make amazing games in the future. The point about needing other accounts to "practice" your off race is just pure BS. If you are serious about practicing playing people far below your skill level is not good practice, just play the computer until you get the mechanics down. Secondly a diamond Zerg is not going to play Terran at a bronze or silver level. Maybe platinum, maybe, and will probably be back at diamond level within 40 games. And even if you did lose 40 games in a row, who gives a shit (hell I have lost 10 in a row with my main), only stat whores will care. So just suck it up and just take the losses, that's the price you pay for changing races. If the losses bothers you that bad skip a few meals at in-and-out and buy a second copy of SC2. You want to smurf, you got to pay. The ONLY thing I prefer over WC3 vs SC2 is on WC3 I could play on any server. Playing a few games on the Asian or European server was kind of fun even with the horrible lag. But other then that the one account per CD is the best solution to combat, smurfing, griefing and all the other shit people do when they have complete anonymity and no accountability. | ||
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woozie
Sweden53 Posts
Which is what brings me to another point. When you bought SC2, YOU bought it so YOU can play it. A single copy of SC2 does not entitle you to multiple accounts for your brother, brothers friends and a few extra accounts you can smuf on... Is there anything wrong with perhaps not being able to buy a game copy of every game for everyone in a family? If they wanted to play together they have to purchase several copies ofc, but it there's only one person playing at one time, I see nothing wrong with it. the point about needing other accounts to "practice" your off race is just pure BS. If you are serious about practicing playing people far below your skill level is not good practice, just play the computer until you get the mechanics down. I might have the basics of playing another race down, but I don't want to get matched up with people who are really good with their races when I'm far from as good with my main ... It's all about finding a even match, because is it ever fun to have to lose 40 games in order to find a level where your off race is evenly matched? Isn't this the kind of stuff that discourages playing races you're worse with? Besides, when I feel like playing my main race I have to own people way below my skill level in order to get to diamond, or whatever my skill level happens to be. Now if there's someone that would repeatedly create new chars in order to smurf, couldn't Blizzard just suspend that account for some time? That way smurfers would get punished for griefing. | ||
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Deleted User 61629
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GuTTuRaLPanda
Sweden54 Posts
For the pros, they can have their practice charas wich noone knows who they are, so that they wont give away any BOs/strats before tourneys, and then they can have their real characters when they play in the tourneys/do official matches or whatever. For the normal user I simply cant see why smurfing/account sharing would be a problem. If your a family with 3 kids I think it's absoluteley unreasonable that you should buy 1 copy of EVERY SINGLE GAME except for Starcraft 2. It's not fucking cheap either. If someone could explain to me why Smurf accounts are bad please do so. Just as Day9 often speaks of it's important just to play for the fun and test out new stuiff that you wouldn'd do if you were super seriuos and competitive every game. | ||
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Tyree
1508 Posts
I like the idea of different ranks on the 3 races and random, that would be fine, but several accounts? No, while 5% of the playerbase will use it for good, the other 95% will use it to beat up on Bronze players day and night. | ||
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GuTTuRaLPanda
Sweden54 Posts
On January 16 2011 19:42 Tyree wrote: Seems like the community has forgotten what a huge problem smurfing used to be. I like the idea of different ranks on the 3 races and random, that would be fine, but several accounts? No, while 5% of the playerbase will use it for good, the other 95% will use it to beat up on Bronze players day and night. Not if you have a limited amount of characters. Say 3? | ||
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DeLoAdEr
Japan527 Posts
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b0urne420
Canada112 Posts
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GuTTuRaLPanda
Sweden54 Posts
On January 16 2011 19:47 b0urne420 wrote: if this were allowed, i think nobody will really try in ladder anymore, and it will be rampant with obnoxious cheese builds since everyones trying to pad their record with their new account. Why do you think that this is? It's still the same people laddering, just not the same names. What will happen is rather tourney results will matter more then ladder stats. | ||
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Trang
Australia324 Posts
On January 16 2011 11:51 woozie wrote: Also, if you have siblings that want to play trough the game themselves, it would be useful to give them a character of their own, so that they can play their own campaign and have their own ladder stats. The only reason I see to not give us multiple characters is that it would be a lot easier for good players to create smurf accounts. But this still happens - all it requires is to buy another copy of the game. Let me get this straight. You're saying that you need more characters for things like letting your sibling play --- and the fact that you have to buy another copy of the game for your sibling is too hard/inconvenient that multiple characters is justified. Yet at the same time, you said effectively that smurfers will smurf because 'all it requires' (implying its easy) is to buy another copy of the game --- and that this should mitigate against the (allegedly) only reason to not have multiple characters. So which is it? Is it hard or is it easy to buy another copy of the game? Sounds like to me if it's too hard for you to buy another game for yourself, then it's too hard for most smurfers to buy another game. Hence one character per account really does limit smurfing a big deal. Look at both sides of the coin fairly. Now, as some other people have said in this thread, a better solution would be to have separate stats/MMR for different races. But then again, how about those people who want to race switch after they've already worked their way up and want to keep playing the same opponents? You want to force them to have to work their way up again? Personally, I would suggest a middle ground. It costs something less than a full copy to buy more characters --- dear enough to deter mass smurfing, but cheap enough that you can afford it if you want to play another race. | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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GuTTuRaLPanda
Sweden54 Posts
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