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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
January 14 2011 22:40 GMT
#161
On January 15 2011 07:37 Firkraag8 wrote:
That bug needs to be fixed asap, but I'm surprised at how many people want it out of the map pool. Just like WarCraft 3 lost temple is my favorite map in SC2, followed closely by metalopolis and xel'naga caverns!

thor drop imba

and lol nice catch... i probably wont ladder til this is fixed...
:)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 14 2011 22:42 GMT
#162
I already have DQ, JB and Steppes veto'd. What should I unveto in exchange for LT?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
optical630
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom768 Posts
January 14 2011 22:42 GMT
#163
its hardly game breaking

you'll still scout anyway unless u wanna play blind
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
January 14 2011 22:44 GMT
#164
VERY VERY nice catch. I really hope they fix this. Man, you are going to save a lot of people a lot of frustration!
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
January 14 2011 22:46 GMT
#165
On January 15 2011 07:42 optical630 wrote:
its hardly game breaking

you'll still scout anyway unless u wanna play blind

It adds a lot more potential to cheese and early all-ins. If anything, it's a reason to take out a map that a lot of people dislike.
:)
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
January 14 2011 22:48 GMT
#166
On January 15 2011 07:42 Torte de Lini wrote:
I already have DQ, JB and Steppes veto'd. What should I unveto in exchange for LT?

Steppes and do the 12 drone rush!
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
January 14 2011 22:52 GMT
#167
On January 15 2011 06:56 JoshSuth wrote:
Made a video displaying the bug:


OP should add this video to the first post.

Great find; hopefully it is fixed asap.
dshsdhk
Profile Joined February 2008
Korea (South)61 Posts
January 14 2011 22:53 GMT
#168
ridiculous... i hope blizz remove LT just like they did with Shakuras, and btw, would be great to NEVER see LT on a map pool again.
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
January 14 2011 23:01 GMT
#169
Edited the OP with the video thanks AskJoshy
MuteZephyr
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania448 Posts
January 14 2011 23:09 GMT
#170
Wow, this is a pretty nice catch, but totally makes sense when you think about it. Normally you can see as the creep spreads, it "dissolves" plants it hits. But look carefully and you'll notice the plant dies before the creep covers it up.

The starting creep I guess destroys the plants before the fog of war view is constructed. It's an order of effects kind of thing: creep/plant effect executed -> fog of war image taken -> creep and hatch rendered. At least that's what I imagine.

Probably won't be a big deal for Blizz to fix if they choose to keep the map.
I don't Micro, I FEMTO. That's 9 orders of magnitude more extreme.
Lunit
Profile Joined July 2010
United States183 Posts
January 14 2011 23:10 GMT
#171
Wow this is huge really surprised no one else has found this
mookku
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland39 Posts
January 14 2011 23:12 GMT
#172
On January 15 2011 07:42 optical630 wrote:
its hardly game breaking

you'll still scout anyway unless u wanna play blind


This is actually way worse than the bug which lead to the removal of Shakuras Plateau (which actually was one of the more balanced maps out there). But I'm a pessimist and as such I don't see this map removed from the map pool anytime soon, they'll just announce it's a friggin' feature in the map, zergs having it too easy otherwise.

Gonna be loving the proxies everyone lame enough will throw at me after they figure this out. It's not like we're not having our cut of the cheesy bullshit already, ofc things like this have to happen as well. And saying you'll scout a zerg anyway... well... maaany of my opponents basically just scout where I am and at the most see if I go Hat->Pool or Pool->Hat anyways before leaving, and in two player maps many don't even bother scouting.
Taniard
Profile Joined June 2010
United States114 Posts
January 14 2011 23:17 GMT
#173
Nicely done thanks for catching the bug! How'd you find out?
An amateur practices until he can get it right, a professional practices until he can't get it wrong.
daChronik
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany15 Posts
January 14 2011 23:20 GMT
#174
holy cheese...... nice find. Let's hope blizzard gets a hold on that one. needs to be fixed asap...

for now i have reason to turn something (terrain) from low to medium.

greetingz and thx to OP

gl hf
jambOng
Profile Joined January 2010
United States86 Posts
January 14 2011 23:20 GMT
#175
Great catch OP!
GG.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
January 14 2011 23:24 GMT
#176
working as intended =_,= we zerg love you blizz but you surely dont have love for us (lol)!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
sicajung
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom297 Posts
January 14 2011 23:24 GMT
#177
thx for the info. this sucks T___T.
hope blizzard can fix this asap.
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1838 Posts
January 14 2011 23:31 GMT
#178
Moon < Lost Temple > (T)August


This is going to be interesting tomorrow.
Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
January 14 2011 23:31 GMT
#179
The sick thing is that the blizzard design team could fix the tree issue but not have the foresight to think of how it might apply on other maps.
Lanaia is love.
Daria
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia500 Posts
January 14 2011 23:36 GMT
#180
On January 15 2011 03:46 thespitfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 03:43 Bodhi wrote:
I wonder if Blizzard will take this out of the map pool.


i really doubt it. LT is a classic, and what about the fucking cliff

what about close spawn LT? You can look at the flowers, find none then 2rax blindly
daria[e]
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