[GSL] Who is worthy of competing in Code A - Page 87
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byQq
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ALPINA
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Liquid`Nazgul
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SuicidalSCV
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Wanted to ask, if you had a chance to hang out with Bratok? Just wondering) Thanks | ||
Tigi
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On January 14 2011 00:03 Talin wrote: If someone doesn't even try to qualify, does that automatically make him better than the guy who attempted to qualify and failed? I don't think so. If anything, it makes him even more of a wildcard. Why should he deserve the spot then? Liquid guys have been there longest, Liquid is the most powerful foreign team (by some margin), their members in Korea live in a pro team house and it is veeeery unlikely any foreigner who hasn't even been to Korea yet or played a single game against their top players is more qualified to play in Code A than Ret, Huk and Haypro. Its not they don't try to qualy, they don't have the chance. But if you have the chance to qualy just with your skill like the liquid guys why should they need a wild card? On the other hand people it would be more clever to give the spot to people that don't have the chance to qualy. For example HuK will probaly get a spot in prem, but Brat_OK could be the best player on the world, but as long as he doesn't have the money to go there he has no chance to qualy. (Obviously this is unrealistic cause he would find a sponsor to get him over there just see it theoretically). | ||
nathangonmad
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xzipit
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Rustug
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ReD-EyeD
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http://www.goodgame.ru/news.php?ocd=view&id=8418 Welcome to watch his games (TLO, WhiteRa, Satiini was his previous opponents). | ||
escapeandpunish
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Deckkie
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Longshank
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Talin
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On January 14 2011 00:16 Tigi wrote: Its not they don't try to qualy, they don't have the chance. But if you have the chance to qualy just with your skill like the liquid guys why should they need a wild card? On the other hand people it would be more clever to give the spot to people that don't have the chance to qualy. For example HuK will probaly get a spot in prem, but Brat_OK could be the best player on the world, but as long as he doesn't have the money to go there he has no chance to qualy. (Obviously this is unrealistic cause he would find a sponsor to get him over there just see it theoretically). Theoretically idea is that players who appear to be "the best players in the world" will be picked up by foreign teams that have the ability to send them to Korea, and then sent to Korea. None of the Liquid players would have gone to Korea by now if they weren't in Liquid, and they wouldn't be picked up and then sent to Korea (which I presume costs a fuckload of money) if Liquid didn't believe they could play on that level. That's simply how things work. If you can't even attract the interest of top foreigner teams, or you aren't on a good enough team that is willing to invest into sending you to Korea, then there has got to be a reason for that. In my opinion, the invites are there to ensure foreigner presence in the GSL as GOM believes (and rightly so) that it makes GSL more attractive to the foreign audience. Sure, the Liquid guys are already there and can qualify by skill via qualifiers, but qualifier games are always unpredictable. Even if you're generally good enough to go through, you can still lose to another good player and then you've got nothing to do for a month. Ret nearly lost in Code A qualifiers to (imho) inferior players because he was sick that day. Just because you're good enough doesn't mean you have to qualify. No foreigner could be confident enough to just storm through these qualifiers, and probably nobody would go through on their first try (or two) either. | ||
Mikilatov
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Dave.
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Ret Kiwikaki Mana | ||
Alezz
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netherDrake
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Since Ret didn't make it into the ro16 of Code A, which does not guarantee a spot in Code A, he should get a spot there, along with Huk/Haypro/Select. | ||
UFO
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Tigi
Germany472 Posts
On January 14 2011 00:34 Talin wrote: Theoretically idea is that players who appear to be "the best players in the world" will be picked up by foreign teams that have the ability to send them to Korea, and then sent to Korea. None of the Liquid players would have gone to Korea by now if they weren't in Liquid, and they wouldn't be picked up and then sent to Korea (which I presume costs a fuckload of money) if Liquid didn't believe they could play on that level. That's simply how things work. If you can't even attract the interest of top foreigner teams, or you aren't on a good enough team that is willing to invest into sending you to Korea, then there has got to be a reason for that. In my opinion, the invites are there to ensure foreigner presence in the GSL as GOM believes (and rightly so) that it makes GSL more attractive to the foreign audience. Sure, the Liquid guys are already there and can qualify by skill via qualifiers, but qualifier games are always unpredictable. Even if you're generally good enough to go through, you can still lose to another good player and then you've got nothing to do for a month. Ret nearly lost in Code A qualifiers to (imho) inferior players because he was sick that day. Just because you're good enough doesn't mean you have to qualify. No foreigner could be confident enough to just storm through these qualifiers, and probably nobody would go through on their first try (or two) either. Finding a team isn't about pure skills but also about popularity within the community. This is for example why ROX would prefer Brat_OK over a better player from Europe (lets say Jinro) if they had the choice. They are a russian sponsor, so they have to care about the popularity within the russian community (where Brat_OK is extrem popular as we have seen). So Liquid also did the same with their guys. They would barely recruit a Eastern europe/Chinese/Sea player who barely has anything to do with the community here on TL and might even have language barrer or visum problems or whatever. You are talking about top foreign teams ? Afaik only Liquid (and soon eg) offers their player a opputurity to go Korea and live there. Obviously Rox is a top foreing team too. Edit: Actually this thread doesn't really make sense since you wouldn't know who would accept an invitation. | ||
urdak
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