EPTGood jobs guys and thanks lots for the info!
SC2 Ladder Analysis: Division Tiers - Page 10
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dtz
5834 Posts
Good jobs guys and thanks lots for the info! | ||
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MasterAsia
United States170 Posts
On November 19 2010 18:37 MasterAsia wrote: I also have a conjecture: The gap (multiple of 63) cumulates up with time. Since the blizzard top200 day this week is somewhere between 15 and 16 weeks from the release of sc2, I conjecture the gap is 4 times the number of weeks from the release. If the gap is always fixed, the extra 200 or 300 pts should be very significant when the top players only has 500 points, but I did not observe this. Excalibur_Z, what do you think of my conjecture? | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On November 21 2010 13:25 MasterAsia wrote: Excalibur_Z, what do you think of my conjecture? I think it's not true, I just think most of the first diamond divisions are higher tiers - this is why most of the people on top 200 are from older divisions. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On November 21 2010 03:40 Shadowed wrote: Page up: http://sc2ranks.com/masters It's not linked anywhere else right now since this is just testing. This only shows US, and only divisions with modifiers set in 1v1 diamond. Gold number is modified points, white is original, everything is sorted by modified. YOU ARE A TOTAL BOSS. Now I can know where I am gonna be in top 200. :DD | ||
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MasterAsia
United States170 Posts
On November 21 2010 13:34 Pokebunny wrote: I think it's not true, I just think most of the first diamond divisions are higher tiers - this is why most of the people on top 200 are from older divisions. You are right, but it doesnt say anything about my conjecture. My conjecture is about why this number is 63 instead of 73 or 53 and how this number will go next week. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On November 21 2010 13:39 MasterAsia wrote: You are right, but it doesnt say anything about my conjecture. My conjecture is about why this number is 63 instead of 73 or 53 and how this number will go next week. I'm saying the number probably doesn't change, because it's uncommon for newer divisions to be S-rank, so they just make the newer divisions have higher modifiers to make them closer in pts. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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vanick
United States53 Posts
On November 21 2010 13:25 MasterAsia wrote: Excalibur_Z, what do you think of my conjecture? We can definitely examine this once the next Top 200 is released. I'm a little skeptical, but if you're right then I believe it would be related to the current max bonus pool. Which currently is pretty much the same thing because we haven't had a new season yet. The reason I'm skeptical is that each division represents a subset of the total MMR range captured by a league. If the league boundaries are static along the MMR range (which may or may not be the case) then I'm not sure what the reason would be to increase the offsets of the divisions over time. It's not like people in a +252 division just start at 252. They can start at 0 and work up like normal. So a person at 0 points in an A-rank division would be (in theory) -63 in an S-rank division. Does that make sense? I'm not sure this is a good example. | ||
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MasterAsia
United States170 Posts
On November 21 2010 13:45 Pokebunny wrote: I'm saying the number probably doesn't change, because it's uncommon for newer divisions to be S-rank, so they just make the newer divisions have higher modifiers to make them closer in pts. So allaboutyou is 252 points ahead of his real level since the first day he is in the ladder? If that is the case, I think he should have ruled the ladder for a much longer time. He almost always stands evenly against me (if not better) since very long ago, and I am almost always about 200 points below the highest player in the ladder. | ||
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vanick
United States53 Posts
On November 21 2010 14:32 MasterAsia wrote: So allaboutyou is 252 points ahead of his real level since the first day he is in the ladder? If that is the case, I think he should have ruled the ladder for a much longer time. He almost always stands evenly against me (if not better) since very long ago, and I am almost always about 200 points below the highest player in the ladder. That is what I think, yes. We haven't had a solid history for this stuff at all so next week's Top 200 should be telling. | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12235 Posts
On November 21 2010 13:25 MasterAsia wrote: Excalibur_Z, what do you think of my conjecture? I guess we'll see next week! I suppose it's possible, but I don't think it's very likely. I think they just determined that 63 would be a good level of separation between tiers. We'll all find out together next week, though. | ||
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Cryosin
United States182 Posts
Divisions are created when one fills up. | ||
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IamOBESE
United States134 Posts
On November 21 2010 16:45 Cryosin wrote: I think your confusing better players joining diamond league first vs better players being in better divisions. Divisions are created when one fills up. If you read the thread you would know this is not the case | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
hurry to get their ratings http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/1191653 I'm #164 with 2388 pts in S-rank. Tied with nexx, 2514 in Corsair Uncle (though I have not checked his match history (edit: his w/l ratio hasnt changed so nvm)), that would be 126 pts, putting Corsair Uncle at B-rank still. Also, that means that the modifier doesn't change, as I thought :D Right behind Etherone in Corsair Iota, and he has 2516, putting that also at B-rank. Rank Character Name Wins-Losses Points 1 Katari 1168-711 2905 2 TTOne 617-358 2902 3 SeleCT 551-211 2794 4 AlLaboUtyOu 673-471 2977 5 Cheese 392-236 2784 6 MasterAsia 362-233 2783 7 Boyardee 378-202 3000 8 ViBE 338-224 2741 9 Gretorp 343-235 2740 10 InflowMini 998-841 3051 11 ROOTdrewbie 282-140 2727 12 ROOTslush 651-396 2719 13 EGStrifeCro 490-322 2716 14 Magulina 144-84 2706 15 Cranklodocus 685-542 2704 15 OpTiKzErO 592-448 2704 15 ROOTSheth 302-190 2704 18 OrgA 218-134 2695 18 HasHe 927-689 2695 20 JJYAN 216-103 2692 21 Perplexity 570-462 2690 22 dde 324-229 2685 23 ZpuX 130-70 2680 24 EGAxslav 587-411 2676 25 CrunCher 377-265 2675 26 Mankeyz 329-248 2674 27 ROOTCatZ 857-688 2672 28 Baz 1383-1171 2727 29 TheZealot 111-53 2660 30 dKiLLeR 290-190 2657 31 NamhciR 392-222 2656 32 MnMEdward 609-514 2655 33 DeAtHRoW 371-223 2648 34 DuFFmAn 659-539 2647 35 sixjaxNewsh 158-93 2641 36 LiquidHuK 479-170 2639 36 PiQLiQ 1164-943 2639 38 Kyhol 554-426 2638 39 EGMachine 229-148 2636 40 CocoA 536-395 2627 41 EGIdrA 227-82 2622 42 ThisIsJimmy 581-460 2612 42 Warden 779-646 2864 44 avilo 537-438 2607 45 rsvp 498-424 2669 46 ROOTDdoRo 825-649 2844 47 CellaWerra 380-231 2591 48 lamp 275-185 2588 49 NadaViKinG 296-232 2574 50 theognis 336-244 2695 51 sikatrix 409-301 2561 52 Maker 700-603 2686 52 Broom 198-130 2560 54 iKillBanshee 303-240 2559 54 Agh 636-497 2559 54 SKU 218-149 2685 57 Fenix 306-140 2558 58 InflowLooky 888-762 2556 59 SPeCiaLiST 432-346 2555 59 EGiNkA 421-285 2555 61 Slurgi 463-381 2554 62 ROOTqxc 318-130 2551 63 toddman 636-524 2546 63 Namkung 317-248 2546 65 junny 275-206 2545 66 PainUser 267-124 2543 66 OnEMoReTrY 337-259 2543 68 Azz 447-364 2539 69 BrokenRhythm 881-722 2537 70 LeeHyoRi 421-327 2536 70 nEAnS 581-436 2536 72 SiN 541-436 2535 73 MnMVadar 717-609 2534 73 Nadagast 267-178 2534 75 EGLzGaMeR 540-413 2531 76 InflowLinko 492-368 2530 77 vVvRigid 650-516 2526 78 Dhalism 729-614 2525 79 VTAttero 185-122 2522 80 LuckyFool 481-387 2517 81 Capoch 455-343 2515 82 bLuR 535-448 2640 83 lovemyRM 496-436 2513 83 AlexCMoi 390-263 2513 85 Denelorn 191-80 2511 86 ROOTBubba 349-256 2510 87 Levin 635-470 2503 88 hiturheart 209-149 2502 89 Mark 511-389 2501 90 Kangwook 531-445 2747 90 BananaMilk 123-70 2495 92 KANAKO 461-358 2805 93 prosu 431-359 2489 94 sKsYeN 536-441 2735 94 DarkCell 245-185 ??? 94 LiquidTyler 203-107 97 Yakero 155-48 98 Bamboocha 250-178 99 Spades 627-508 100 LiquidRet 128-43 100 Humble 249-189 100 RaNGirLxD 360-289 103 NeverDawn 207-139 104 FlyingSheep 330-248 105 owmygroin 997-901 106 Mura 492-432 106 NGry 219-146 106 Fenneth 354-290 109 Ryze 967-864 110 REBUKED 733-558 111 scvrusher 265-199 112 Destiny 780-696 113 BigMac 190-141 113 LiquidNazgul 179-112 115 EnvY 658-548 116 stev 387-322 117 DalaiLameR 111-76 118 SoFtBalL 135-71 119 dayvie 486-365 119 sLeepisT 402-328 121 VTmisery 395-320 122 Zelniq 1034-818 123 KawaiiRice 215-106 124 Xog 789-704 125 ACERGAMEGMMA 1534-1410 126 nGenJazBas 117-67 126 Taurent 345-197 126 Toosneaky 580-497 129 fpx 138-90 130 deth 202-155 130 Antimage 392-298 132 TaurosPKM 433-365 132 lime 296-233 134 LegendofBert 552-474 135 RuFF 936-804 136 Android 592-472 137 Kalu 155-99 137 makoplux 595-538 137 Blade 330-267 140 CombatEX 765-679 141 mystik 409-351 141 NKULUNKULU 378-322 143 InflowCoppah 553-448 144 RaNgeD 739-654 144 Thugnificent 994-882 146 FireZerg 492-405 146 Science 144-106 146 Arena 231-186 146 spekkiO 136-88 146 VTWhiplash 341-286 151 mkengyn 450-386 151 MsButtloaves 160-112 151 mTwDIMAGA 84-45 151 nGenMaFia 137-94 155 POlar 386-328 155 simonlegosu 493-428 157 ReasoN 174-106 158 CubonePKM 387-315 158 Ikki 393-335 158 BoO 530-444 161 Drew 370-299 2392 162 ReSpOnSe 791-680 2391 163 Etherone 414-342 2516 164 Pokebunny 218-157 2388 164 nexx 145-91 2514 166 GoGoGo 100-59 167 FeaR 800-724 167 Ocean 592-522 169 giX 276-208 169 Time 982-877 171 AhhBoxxah 151-84 171 Lost 433-371 173 cVen 381-320 174 stogez 209-132 175 jungik 241-192 175 PhiliBiRD 202-147 175 ROOTFayth 305-227 178 John 281-224 178 Andro 682-601 180 NOVAstalife 407-266 180 Ganon 214-160 182 magnolia 550-506 183 VTGoddeR 588-512 183 Malice 695-527 183 Aoratha 419-358 186 Shoey 478-417 187 Pookie 464-397 188 Hawk 357-285 189 GplaysNet 113-79 190 MattDamon 664-578 190 CNBgrtmn 194-139 192 Nostra 871-769 192 RedAlert 336-265 194 ZekoXPn 470-399 195 ButteryLlama 641-544 196 SeaofStorms 182-130 197 GRITmadison 1119-1035 197 JEcho 352-280 199 ClosingTimE 308-254 200 Kvz 445-385 | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
198. JEcho 2606 199. ClosingTimE 2479 200. Kvz 2352 Btw JEcho is top #1 at his diamond division. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
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dtz
5834 Posts
and http://sc2ranks.com/masters looks very very identical. Probably some variations here and there because the top 200 blog is 1 hour old and we don't know what time they actually plucked the data before pasting it. Congratulations is in order. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On November 23 2010 01:54 dtz wrote: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/1191653 and http://sc2ranks.com/masters looks very very identical. Probably some variations here and there because the top 200 blog is 1 hour old and we don't know what time they actually plucked the data before pasting it. Congratulations is in order. ya I'm checking the current pts vs the snapshot right now, using win/loss total to make sure they haven't played any games | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12235 Posts
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