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So I was playing a game and was having some extreme lag. I asked the guy if I could pause for a second and he said sure, so while I'm trying to fix the lag I get greeted with starcraft sounds through my headset only to alt tab back in and see he has resumed the game. This was early on in the game so he got an advantage over me, and just rolled right over me. I was pissed so I verbally attacked him about it and afterwards he messaged me
"Jaguar: gg little little noob
Jaguar has reconnected.
Jaguar: noob biach"
What am I supposed to do in this situation?
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Alright so I cooled down and I guess what I really want to know is:
Poll: Does blizzard need to do something about their pause system or is it oNo it's fine how it is (261) 62% It's not a good system, but there isn't a better one. (104) 25% Yes please fix it (58) 14% 423 total votes Your vote: Does blizzard need to do something about their pause system or is it o (Vote): Yes please fix it
(Vote): No it's fine how it is
(Vote): It's not a good system, but there isn't a better one.
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Accept the fact that you lost 1 insignificant game to a stranger on the internet and that you should just ignore it and move one.
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Oh thanks for the help.
I understand I lost 1 game but I mean, what am I supposed to do next time? Play with a 2 second delay between everything I do? I don't like blizzards pausing idea.
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Nothing, there is nothing you can do. He was a douche, but you put yourself in that danger by pausing. It is BM by him, but not cheating or anything.
EDIT: Don't like Blizzard's pausing idea? Well, what do you want from them, a pause your opponent cant resume on? If you want to avoid this altogether you have to fix your system beforehand to avoid lag. You have no right to complain, really.
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Nothing you can do lol...
Just hope that the other guy doesn't unpause
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Alright, I guess now that I've cooled down the real question I want to ask is:
Does blizzard need to do something about their pause system or is it ok the way it is?
I added a poll at the top.
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On November 13 2010 12:54 hefty wrote:
EDIT: Don't like Blizzard's pausing idea? Well, what do you want from them, a pause your opponent cant resume on? If you want to avoid this altogether you have to fix your system beforehand to avoid lag. You have no right to complain, really.
Sure.
A say.... 30 second pause that the other person cannot un-pause, that you can only do once per match.
Would that be so big a problem? Is your 30 seconds so important to you?
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On November 13 2010 12:54 LooKe wrote:
Oh thanks for the help.
I understand I lost 1 game but I mean, what am I supposed to do next time? Play with a 2 second delay between everything I do? I don't like blizzards pausing idea.
Well your case might be genuine,but from my experience most of the times when the someone tries to pause the game it's normally because they're losing, and they just try to sit on it hoping for a disconnect, so the only solution is for you to allow unpausing by the opponent.
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I don't understand why people cry when other people unpause, Its just a ladder game and most people will pause for you but if they don't just get over it. What are you going to do report him to the fbi? In tournies people aren't going to do this crap but its just ladder. I swear to god man some people take this game a little bit too seriously
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If it was my system that's one thing but it was my brother being stupid on itunes, which I have no control over. Of course about 10 seconds after the game resumed I thought of this and yelled at him to stop and voila problem solved. I like Fa1nT's idea of a 1 time 30 second pause.
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Yeah there should be a short time before your opponent can unpause
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I would have waited for you  I've paused the game several times to go answer the door or something and I haven't been taken advantage of yet. Some people are just douches
edit: The 1 time only 30 second pause seems like a nice solution. Though I believe there are more situations where people pause for shits when they have lost, so this feature would probably be more of an annoyance to me 
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So you want to change how battle.net works over one game you had where someone unpaused and lost 10 points? Doesn't seem very reasonable to me. Being able to pause is a courtesy, how would you like it if during a middle of a battle you just pause just to annoy the other guy or pause before you ragequit. It will easily be abused, the way it works currently is fine.
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Why don't they do a system like madden where you have 3 pauses for like 30 seconds or something. That way you can pause, but you can't drive everyone insane with pausing.
Seems simply enough to me.
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All you can do is hope. I wait only if the person gives me a reason before going off, and give them 10 seconds to give a reason, which is adequate, imo.
I would never unpause just to get 10 points :l, but I would unpause if I think you just do it for no reason.
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I think it's best the way it is. I would hate for ppl to pause without saying anything and i have to wait until they resume. Even a 30 second wait is a lot if your opponent is a douch and just pauses without saying anything.
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This poll is so vague that it means nothing. If you made a pause that wasn't unpausable by the other player, people would still complain. It's fine as it is now -- it's not like you can pause multiplayer matches in other games either. Either pause and hope for the best or don't.
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Yeah just have timeouts like any other sport
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On the ladder, play to get better, not to win.
So you lost because the guy took a cheap shot. Next game.
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On November 13 2010 13:05 average650 wrote:
Why don't they do a system like madden where you have 3 pauses for like 30 seconds or something. That way you can pause, but you can't drive everyone insane with pausing.
Seems simply enough to me.
Imagine having to wait for 90s before you win. This system is bound to be abused and be irritating as hell.
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Frankly if you're having lag problems that's your own fault. Deal with it. It's BM for him to unpause if he tells you he'll wait but pausing is a courtesy, not a right.
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You are responsible for your own connection. If it isn't working well then take the loss. The functionality seems to be intended only for matches in which you know the other player will abide by the pause. For random matches against anonymous players just forget it.
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How to type when you've paused? In 1v1s I swear I cannot talk to the person to say "ready?" before resuming. As leelu dallas multipass once said, plaes halp.
And considering how many people BM pause, I think it's alright the way it is. As long as something is said before pause I've never experienced any problems with it.
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I think the best answer to this would be a sort of pause-request system. Basically, if you pause it, it sends a pause request to your opponent in a window on the top left or bottom right or something, and if your opponent accepts, then you have a guaranteed 60 second (or whatever time limit) pause which can't be unpaused by your opponent. If your opponent doesn't want to let you pause, they can deny it. Better than pausing/unpausing wars.
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If you begin a game, you should be able to finish it without pausing. The pausing system is like a backup and if your opponent is generous, he will let you pause the game if need be. That being said, if real life situations come around and you need to leave the computer, ask for the pause, if not, man up and take the loss. Its just a loss, it isn't a tournament and money is not on the line.
The reason why Blizzard wont implement a "timed" pause option is because a lot of troll will keep pausing the game when they are about to lose.. wasting your time and ruining the game. Even a minute is too much.
Edit: ^ The request system sounds good but what if you need to instantly pause during a tournament because of a keyboard/mouse/pc malfunction?
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Shouldn't be a pause system IMO, but for the sake of special cases in tournaments it's probably worth staying in the game. I will always resume online though unless you give me a time estimate that is reasonable.
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On November 13 2010 13:21 Ixas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 13:05 average650 wrote:
Why don't they do a system like madden where you have 3 pauses for like 30 seconds or something. That way you can pause, but you can't drive everyone insane with pausing.
Seems simply enough to me. Imagine having to wait for 90s before you win. This system is bound to be abused and be irritating as hell.
Good point. But you could mess with it a bit to get it right. Maybe only 1 timeout is necessary then. I don't know. In any case I think some form of that would be better.
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System doesn't need to be changed, their attitude is that if it's time to play you better be ready to play. If your opponent allows you to pause that is totally up to them. You are at the mercy of your opponent if you want to pause.
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He's a jerk for unpausing, but this system is the best one. Any sort of pause that you can't resume at any time would be a thousand times more annoying. And yeah, if you are playing on the same connection as your brother it is your fault. Your opponent shouldn't have to wait for you to fix your problems.
That doesn't make his underhanded play any more acceptable.
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Give everyone 10 pauses/month or a number proportional to your play time. Once you use it, gives you 20-30 seconds pause time. Your opponent cannot resume. It automatically resumes after the 20-30 seconds so you cannot pull some gay shit as well. Sure you can be a ass and abuse by pausing before you lose but that uses up your quota for the month. Btw this should not carry over and only works on ladder. You cannot "acrue" pause points.
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On November 13 2010 13:26 Johnny Yen wrote:
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How to type when you've paused? In 1v1s I swear I cannot talk to the person to say "ready?" before resuming. As leelu dallas multipass once said, plaes halp.
And considering how many people BM pause, I think it's alright the way it is. As long as something is said before pause I've never experienced any problems with it.
you just type normally.
always worked for me.
back to OP: if you hear sound, tab back in, you'll be lagging as the comp reopens sc2 up, and you can play on
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If you're scared of your opponent unpausing, just leave the game. That way, you won't get angry when your opponent outsmarts you. It's not reasonable for you to expect other people to wait for you. He wants to play the game as well. Sure, it is very rude and disrespectful, and I heavily frown upon it as do most people of the community, but you're not much better if you verbally attack someone. Have you never encountered rude people in real life? Please tell me you don't call them names and ask for a rematch. Just take the moral high ground and stay calm.
Any multiplayer game needs to have both players be in control of every possible function. Do you know any other real-time multiplayer games that let you pause without giving your opponent the ability to resume?
The request system that other people suggested is somewhat reasonable but it already works currently. Most people who would lie about allowing a pause would probably say no to a request anyways.
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I don't know what a better system would be, but it's pretty weaselly that he 'accepts' your pause and then undoes it while you're looking away. I think the best solution is to be able to report douchebags who do this and for them to be warned in some fashion, but that's only possible if the replay records pauses.
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Man lots of suggestions for a complicated quota or timed system here, trying to solve a problem that's not actually a problem. Far more players would be irritated by some pause timing system from a losing player than they currently are by an incredibly rare 'unpausing'.
Fix your issues before you start a game. If that's not possible, be prepared to accept a loss if something bad happens. The pause system is fine as is, and works as intended in important environments (tournaments).
On a side note, I would argue if you're going to be longer than 40 seconds, it's BM for you to ask your opponent to wait in the first place. GG out and let him get on with his day.
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its your fault for not getting everything in order before you ladder.
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Pausing should be avoided since it screws with a players rhythm and intuitive sense of game time. For a high-strung game like Starcraft, being forced to stare at the same screen for several seconds, doing nothing but waiting for your opponent to return and confirm that you're there... is really frustrating and can tilt people especially if your technical difficulties require upwards of 5 minutes to deal with. A new game could've been well underway in such time.
I never assume my opponent will let me pause unless he's a friend I'm familiar with, and even then I run it by him first. No one is obliged to honor a pause unless he can trust that the other party has reasonable justification (technical problems that are within the player's power to fix.)
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The only pause thing that needs to be changed is the pause->surrender bug where your opponent doesn't know that you've surrendered until they unpause. It sucks waiting there trying to be nice when your opponent has left. I've resorted to unpausing->pausing anytime my opponent pauses at a time where I feel like he's lost the game.
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Don't ladder if you're going to be distracted by real life.
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Can we stop bashing him for choosing to post something that genuinely made him question something? I have no idea what's going on in your lives but he didn't do anything to deserve some giant rage gush. At least answer his question, don't insult his maturity or something...
There really isn't a way to solve the problem you brought up about the pause system except that 30 second interval the opponent can't unpause thing. Make a pause unpausable and you will have players pausing, then going afk for 20 minutes so their opponents leave and they get a free win. The guy you played against was ridiculous, yeah.
Some people have said it's the problem of him not getting his connection and stuff in order before the game, and in this case that's true. But what about unforeseeable things that happen AFTER the game begins? (odd example): cat jumps on the desk and keyboard during a game. So you guys are saying he should have kicked the cat out of the room just because of something that MIGHT have happened? What if the doorbell rings or someone calls? Yes technically he's wasting his opponents time (like 30 seconds...) but there should be some courtesy between players. Or at least a level of understanding for things that might happen during a game.
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On November 13 2010 12:59 Fa1nT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 12:54 hefty wrote:
EDIT: Don't like Blizzard's pausing idea? Well, what do you want from them, a pause your opponent cant resume on? If you want to avoid this altogether you have to fix your system beforehand to avoid lag. You have no right to complain, really. Sure. A say.... 30 second pause that the other person cannot un-pause, that you can only do once per match. Would that be so big a problem? Is your 30 seconds so important to you?
Yes and it would be very annoying when the player that loses pauses the game like a douche because he lost. Players right now sometimes pause when they lose (dunno why) so they would do this too annoy you.
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This is close to the best if not the best pausing system. If you have a problem it is your fault. Your opponent is not obligated to have his/her game interrupted for any amount of time for you to fix it. Out of about 1100 games played I've had only one game where an opponent paused for a legit reason. The amount of games that have been paused for bad/troll reasons is probably in the single digits for me, but if a 30 second you-have-to-wait-pause that number would skyrocket.
On November 13 2010 13:57 JoeSchmoe wrote:
Give everyone 10 pauses/month or a number proportional to your play time. Once you use it, gives you 20-30 seconds pause time. Your opponent cannot resume. It automatically resumes after the 20-30 seconds so you cannot pull some gay shit as well. Sure you can be a ass and abuse by pausing before you lose but that uses up your quota for the month. Btw this should not carry over and only works on ladder. You cannot "acrue" pause points.
This idea is almost completely retarded. Please stop having opinions apply more thought before posting. Personally I still have yet to need to pause a game, so now I have X amount of free troll pauses to inconvenience people with. Pure genius. Your system fails its goal because the system will automatically unpause anyway even if the opponent was going to honor the pause. If you can't fix the problem/go to the bathroom/whatever in that 20-30 seconds you're out of luck. Your system would also cause more "gay shit" than it fixes.
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If you can find out that guy's TL id, send the replay to Chill and ask him to ban him. Chill really hates unpause abusers!
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I've already seen a good working pause function in Heroes of Newerth. Each team (1v1, 2v2, doesnt matter) gets 3 pauses a game, each pause has a 1 minute lock on it. After that 1 minute is up the opposing team may unpause the game.
No, we don't actually need 3 pauses or the full minute, but this makes it so that if you must pause for something, at least you know the minimum amount of time you have and so you are not completely at the mercy of someone who doesn't care to wait for you.
I have not yet had this happen to me, but I still agree with the OP. The current pause system is based purely on the honor system. Considering blizzards track record with cracking down on "discouraged" behavior, you'd think this would be something that they were concerned is being abused, regardless of how insignificant and rare it is.
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Why not change it so there's actually an official request form, from the game it self? If the player accepts the pause request, a pause will occur lasting for 20 seconds. Showing the timer until the game resumes.
I really don't see why a system like that is out of the question. Really it would just take the deception out of the question, so that a player can't manipulate the situation.
If a player denies you a pause, too bad.
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Blizzard should just add a "Ask for a 1 minute unresumable pause" button. Problem solved!
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Just give each player 2 pauses of 1 minute or so. Like it was in q3a (memory is kinda failing me atm)
It worked pretty well imo.
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Whenever someone pauses without saying anything I wait about 10seconds and ask whats up, if they ask for a tiny break then sure, ill wait 30-60 seconds.
however, some people have actually been abusing this so I've been thinking about just unpausing a few seconds in, sometimes when I unpause they have already left the game and I've been waiting there like a tard. (this links in with if I'm winning and they pause I unpause earlier.)
it feels super cheap unpausing early, but I've been seeing people do this more often now :/
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best would be a consensual pause for a set amount of time from in game
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There's always going to be that asshole / douchebag that will unpause it the moment he can.
For the most part it works and there is no reason to change it. It's just that we tend to remember that asshole who unpaused it more than the person who didn't, so it gets vocalized more and the problem seems larger than it actually is.
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It is pretty easy to solve this. A request button that asks the opponent for a pause for a range of different times (10 sec ~ 5 mins?). If he agrees and selects on the option, you get an un-resumable pause for that length of time. After that either can resume.
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It sucks that he was such a dick about it, but I don't really think that there should be anything done about it.
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There should be a time limit and the other player shouldn't be able to unpause. Just make it something short like a minute. If you can't solve the problem you're pausing for within a minute, you should surrender. The way it is now is retarded. I don't feel good when I have to unpause a game because the dude is taking over five minutes to return.
BTW. How the hell do you chat while paused? Enter doesn't do anything.
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Keep the system,
Ive had one other guy that unpaused 2 while I had to go to the toilet. I just threw the game away and surrendered and thanked him for the waste of time.
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The only possible system is something where you request the pause, then if your opponent accepts they can't unpause for a minute or something.
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this is exactly what i mean by Battlenet 2.0 being a step back from its predecessors.
In WC3, wasn't there a time limit on how long you could pause each time? I remember it being 2 mins, and from then on, yr opponent could then resume. In that 2 mins tho, yr opponent couldn't unpause.
Isn't that a much better system than currently?
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Its your own fault that you laddered unprepared. People that wont pause for you are usually bad mannered dicks but thats their choice and its understandable.
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I've had to pause the game a few times to answer the door / phone and people have always been ok as long as you say what you're doing.
People have paused on me, and if they say why ill be happy with it, if they don't ill wait for a reasonable length of time.
Only once have I unpaused, that was when some guy just paused while he was flying his CC off and had no base (i had air units), he was just being a douche.
The system is fine as it is, at least in Europe people are generally well mannered, but what else could you do? A system which pauses for a fixed amount of time would be abused by BM losers and while 30s wouldnt matter much in 1 game if people start doing it all the time it would get very frustrating.
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On November 13 2010 14:42 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 12:59 Fa1nT wrote:On November 13 2010 12:54 hefty wrote:
EDIT: Don't like Blizzard's pausing idea? Well, what do you want from them, a pause your opponent cant resume on? If you want to avoid this altogether you have to fix your system beforehand to avoid lag. You have no right to complain, really. Sure. A say.... 30 second pause that the other person cannot un-pause, that you can only do once per match. Would that be so big a problem? Is your 30 seconds so important to you? Yes and it would be very annoying when the player that loses pauses the game like a douche because he lost. Players right now sometimes pause when they lose (dunno why) so they would do this too annoy you.
So? they can also fly into a corner of the map for 3 minutes while you tech to air units, blizzard has not removed that BS yet, whats your point?
People abuse everything, doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.
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Pausing is fine, it's a privilege if your opponent allows it. With pausing timers all the newbs and lamers on bnet would manner pause when they lost, it would become extremely annoying.
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On November 13 2010 20:09 Exathor wrote:
this is exactly what i mean by Battlenet 2.0 being a step back from its predecessors.
In WC3, wasn't there a time limit on how long you could pause each time? I remember it being 2 mins, and from then on, yr opponent could then resume. In that 2 mins tho, yr opponent couldn't unpause.
Isn't that a much better system than currently?
This is incorrect. The War3 pausing system is identical to SC2's.
The pausing system is fine as is. If you need to pause you are inconveniencing your opponent. If you are polite and request to pause people tend to be understanding. It is then your responsibilty to be FAST. If you have a phone call that you need to take, or someone is at the door, you should leave. This is the polite thing to do.
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On November 13 2010 13:05 storm44 wrote:
So you want to change how battle.net works over one game you had where someone unpaused and lost 10 points? Doesn't seem very reasonable to me. Being able to pause is a courtesy, how would you like it if during a middle of a battle you just pause just to annoy the other guy or pause before you ragequit. It will easily be abused, the way it works currently is fine.
Wasn't there a time before people could unpause in SC1? I realize people abuse it but a small timer would be nice. If nothing else, at least 1 minute for the first pause and no time for the next 2.
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It's interesting that a community that is bat-shit insane about "manners" are too impatient to wait 30 seconds for someones pause.
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The pausing system is fine. Anything with out the opponent being able to unpause is too abusable.
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i would like a short countdown if the game starts again?!
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On November 13 2010 23:29 Fa1nT wrote:
It's interesting that a community that is bat-shit insane about "manners" are too impatient to wait 30 seconds for someones pause.
Well, the "problem" is that "the community" consists of more more than one player and therefor there are more than one opinion. Some like bm, some hate bm, some don't care, some are stressful about their freetime and want to play as much as possible whilst other can wait for more than a couple of minutes for a stranger on bnet.
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A one time pause is a good idea. What they did (or still do) in HoN (Heroes of Newerth, back when I played) is that everybody in the game got a chance to pause for 60 seconds which the opposing team could not change. After this period, anybody in the game could unpause. This was useful for disconnects, and I'm surprised that SC2 doesn't have a 're-connect' function either.
Obviously we're talking about 2 different games, (in HoN, losing a teammate is detrimental and at higher levels, completely decimates your hopes of winning) but the idea is good. Having a one-time pause per game to ensure fairness. After all, we're keeping score here. Yes there may be abuse, but if the opponent has nothing better to do with their time than waste yours, then can't you laugh it off? I'm sure most people we play aren't completely bad mannered and will GG out as soon as they realise there is nothing to play for anymore.
And to those that oppose the idea, why? Are you so obsessed with 30-60 seconds out of a (average length) 15+ minute game? Or are you just the type of person to pick a free win over good manner? That's more than shameful on your part imo.
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can't it be a timed pause where you only have X amount of time where your opponent can't unpause? i don't see whats so hard about this, and if you need additional time either hope your opponent doesn't BM you or use up another pause, make it something like 30 seconds or a minute for each pause
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On November 13 2010 13:21 Ixas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 13:05 average650 wrote:
Why don't they do a system like madden where you have 3 pauses for like 30 seconds or something. That way you can pause, but you can't drive everyone insane with pausing.
Seems simply enough to me. Imagine having to wait for 90s before you win. This system is bound to be abused and be irritating as hell.
90s isn't that long. If it affects you too much they could easily lower the duration to 20s. Why have pause in the game if you don't use it because your afraid they will unpause?
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I've had many instances when I needed to pause for 10 seconds to answer the door, asked if I could please pause for 10 seconds, and then come back to find he resumed. I've never paused for longer than 10 seconds, but have had many a game ruined because of this. I'd say 6-8 games.
I think the real question is, why would anyone do this? Is it fun to play against someone you know is afk? Whenever anyone does this, I usually float all my buildings over to his base so he can kill them more easily, then question his ability to compete on a normal level.
How about a separate 10 or 12 second pause for each player, that even gives the opponent a heads up countdown or something? I want something that's quick, easy to access (having to type "may I pls paus for 2 secs?" and then wait for the reply can be hard sometimes) but also fair for everyone.
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I don't know about you guys but I've basically never had anyone do that to me and I don't think it happens particularily often. I'd definetly be more bothered by a '30 second timeout' which you cannot unpause. Basically everytime you play 4v4 with your friends and stomp some people your going to have to wait 2 minutes just to win the game, in addition to them kiting with command centres etc? (Yes, this happens each and every game).
If you're worried about things like this you should check your internet before you start playing.
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It's fine the way it is. Sure there will be some assholes who will resume the game before you're ready but for the most part people have good enough manners that they'll wait.
One time my keyboard just stopped working completely and I had the game paused for like 3 minutes without a reason (because I couldn't type obviously). Still the guy kept waiting until I could find a new keyboard.
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If your shit breaks down or you need to go to the bathroom, then either just gg or play with the disadvantage. I've had computer problems before but didn't pause for it. I just sucked it up because I don't like people wasting my time and I don't like wasting other people's time.
This guy was a dick for pretending he would wait, but to change the pause system so that people can waste other people's time is lame. Your pause is on the other players' good graces. You don't have a right to waste someone's time just because you can't handle losing one game on ladder.
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Everyone keeps saying "it's up to the other person so why change the system" thats exactly why, if they say that it's fine then let me pause the game but don't screw me for trusting that when he says thats fine, that I will have the 20 seconds to fix the lag. Also it's not like lag only screws one person, you both have to deal with the lag.
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If you lag its your own fault not everyone wants to wait for a pause not knowing how long this will be. It throws me off my game if there is a pause. I like how it is. If i am tiered of waiting i should be able to unpause.
Maybe if the other player has to accept the pause then if its accepted your forced to w8 for 30 sec. If that was there then if the game is over the people cant just pause and make you wait if you dont want to.
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I had a similar situation except it was the complete opposite. We start the 1v1, guy quits one minute in and I message him after "why'd you quit bro? you could've just paused it" and he raged haha.
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The system is fine as it is, might not be perfect, but forced pauses of any sort would annoy the shit out of me.
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There will always be douchebags, and in my experience douchy people seem to be bad mannered in every aspect of their life.
The people who abuse unpausing are likely the same people that stick their gum in random public places or pass by a long line of cars at an exit and then try to merge at the last second. Basically, these people will always make enemies but it's their right to do so I suppose. No one's time is too important to wait 30 seconds as a basic human courtesy. If you aren't able to show respect to another person then in my opinion you should not be interacting with them either.
Although I think unpausing has a strong correlation with morally deficit individuals I think the system is fine. In a mostly free world, if someone wants to sacrifice their dignity for a potential advantage in a video game, then I guess they have the right to do that.
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Pause system is fine. I don't think I've ever actually met someone who said no to a pause or unpaused the game on me though, that's extremely BM.
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I never unpause a game if the player provides an explanation, like "1 sec phone".
If someone pauses during a team game during an attack or 1-2 seconds in the game, i usually unpause since they dont say anything.
In 1v1 i never unpause unless the person i play against seems like a jerk; cheesing or being bm.
if you are polite, I will be polite and wait during the pause.
Simple!
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On November 14 2010 07:42 Elbee wrote:
Pause system is fine. I don't think I've ever actually met someone who said no to a pause or unpaused the game on me though, that's extremely BM.
What about when you are on the other side of things? I had one dude pause a game, I waited for over 5 minutes, then unpaused, and the dude was right there and ready to play again (he reacted immediately to my reason to unpause). I bit too convenient.
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Even ICCUP has no rules against pausing. Unpausing is super bad manner, but really, it's not his problem something in your life came up. To him, he might only have time for one game, or he might want to power down games really quickly to get down a strategy, the opponent, or fairness of the match is irrelevant. I've waited for a player for over 10 minutes before, and ever since then I debate instantly unpausing the game.
If you do not have the time to play the game, or cannot continue, perhaps you should leave. Even if it is quite cowardly thing for someone to do, is the match really worth that much to you? Doesn't seem like it if you had to pause the game.
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I think its ridiculous to pause without some sort of explanation. Say something like "One minute!" or "Shit phone" or something. I'm fine with that.
But randomly pausing is just annoying. I won't unpause unless the person just doesn't respond to me for over a minute. I think it's really quite rude to hold up the game without explanation.
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Your opponent was a jerk. It's too bad there's people like that in the world, but they exist.
In a world with honorable, well mannered players, the pause system works fantastically.
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He can probably not sleep at night so it's fine. Don't let cheap tricks get to you
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I hate when people pause. When they ask I say no, and then they often do it anyways, and get mad when I unpause it. This especially enrages me when they do it right as the game starts. If you had something to do, you should have done it before the game started.
I didn't join this game so I could sit and watch a dark screen while you sort through your mp3 collection or clip your toenails or whatever. When the door rings at my house, I just gg out. My record is not that important.
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On November 15 2010 02:02 ayadew wrote:
He can probably not sleep at night so it's fine. Don't let cheap tricks get to you
He probably sleeps just fine. Dont try to convince yourself that everyone in the world has outstanding morals.
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My question is, how long does it really take to shut down a couple of programs that might be making you lag? I have had this same problem and it takes me less than 10 seconds to shut down everything necessary, which even at the very start of the game isn't enough to put someone that far ahead.
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I feel that every time you pause unless the pauser unpauses the other guy should have to wait atleast 30 seconds before pausing.
on the other hand, at 2.3k diamond i never had anyone who just said no f$%^ off when i need to pause and i give the other guy the same courtesy. Maybe when you get higher theres more respect between players.
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On November 13 2010 12:59 LooKe wrote:
Alright, I guess now that I've cooled down the real question I want to ask is:
Does blizzard need to do something about their pause system or is it ok the way it is?
No.
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Your story made laugh, what a pathetic person he must be...
However the system is fine... if you face a person like this just block communication and do your best. Most people are not like him.
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OP flamed the guy who unpaused it which caused the out of game response. Not the greatest response but i can understand it given the flaming.
Only reason for the player being a jerk would be for unpausing it, there could be a reason for why he did it?
so far i havent had this occur in sc2, but in wc3 only time i ever unpaused was when i had class in 10 min and the guy asked to pause, i just said ok make it quick and he took like more then 1 min. I said sorry but i gotta go soon and unpaused.
Make sure you sort out your problems BEFORE you search for a game. try a test warmup custom to check your lag if you are suspicious of your internet..
if you are so concerned with fixing issues, fix them BEFORE you search for a game.
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people are douchebags. it is life. get over it. BM happens to everyone, it part of the game and inevitably the [internet].
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In my opinion pause is a privilege not a right. If I have to get the door or let the dog out, I'll pause and explain, or ask and then pause. I fully expect that the opponent may unpause it on me so I'm not going to rage about it if they do. I'll still pause in hopes that they're cool about it, and they almost always are.
I've gone and afk'd for a few seconds to let out the dog when I've been ahead just because I feel pausing is pretty rude in general and unless I absolutely have to I'd really rather avoid it.
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an alternative system would be to pop up a little "Pause Requested" yes/no on the side (like the "Minerals Requested" icon) for every player in the game. the game only pauses if it's unanimous and can only be unpaused by the guy who started the vote. this way you will at least now when you're tabbed whether or not the game is still going.
needlessly complicated i think, since i'm totally fine with what we have now. your annoyance should be directed towards people in general.
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On November 15 2010 03:23 zeidrichthorene wrote:
In my opinion pause is a privilege not a right.
Thats all there is to it. You cant expect nor ask from pleople to just let you pause whenever you want.
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