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Poll: Ladder distribution on TL

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btlyger
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States470 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 02:46:17
November 13 2010 02:32 GMT
#1
So lately I've been wondering where the current forum goers rank in terms of the ladder. A lot of people post in threads saying whatever, but I figured it would be nice to see the distribution for the site.

EDIT: Enough people wanted it so I redid the numbers for diamond league.

Poll: Where do you place in ladder?

Mid Diamond (1200-1800) (231)
 
33%

High Diamond (1800-2200) (141)
 
20%

Low Diamond (<1200) (112)
 
16%

Platinum (72)
 
10%

Top Diamond (>2200) (58)
 
8%

Gold (40)
 
6%

Silver (29)
 
4%

Bronze (26)
 
4%

709 total votes

Your vote: Where do you place in ladder?

(Vote): Bronze
(Vote): Silver
(Vote): Gold
(Vote): Platinum
(Vote): Low Diamond (<1200)
(Vote): Mid Diamond (1200-1800)
(Vote): High Diamond (1800-2200)
(Vote): Top Diamond (>2200)



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HCastorp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States388 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 02:37:39
November 13 2010 02:35 GMT
#2
People can argue about what low, mid and high diamond are all day, but I think most will agree that your numbers are too low.

I would call low <1400, mid 1400-1800, high 1800-2100, and "top" over that, but that's just me.

btlyger
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States470 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 02:40:23
November 13 2010 02:38 GMT
#3
Yeah I figured that the numbers would be skewed, but I decided that anyone who is above 1500 is probably laddering a lot and will eventually become over 2k.

EDIT: Although so far there seems to be enough people falling in between those rankings so I'll leave it the way it is.
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HCastorp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States388 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 02:45:06
November 13 2010 02:42 GMT
#4
On November 13 2010 11:38 btlyger wrote:
Yeah I figured that the numbers would be skewed, but I decided that anyone who is above 1500 is probably laddering a lot and will eventually become over 2k.


I think your results will be more interesting (that is, say more about the skill of Tl users) if you redo your numbers.

Virtually any diamond player who has used their entire bonus pool will be over 1500. Making the numbers higher will say more about skill; as it is now the only people in "low diamond" will be those who have played very few games.

EDIT: Well, I too also surprised by the number of people who fall into those categories, but I still think you should redo it, if only for my own selfish curiosity about what proportion of TLers are in what I consider to be high or top diamond.
debasers
Profile Joined August 2010
737 Posts
November 13 2010 02:42 GMT
#5
>1500 isn't high diamond nowadays, I would say high diamond is something like > 1900 maybe even > 2000
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
November 13 2010 03:37 GMT
#6
Instead of saying low/mid/high diamond and starting arguments, I think you should've just left those three words out of the poll and just ask for the pts they have.

I'm 1600 diamond myself. If I ladder hard enough tomorrow I'll probably hit 1700.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 13 2010 04:01 GMT
#7
I hit 400 diamond at release and stopped laddering. Been playing customs ever since. I'd put myself at mid diamond skill level. My bonus pool is something obscene like 1000
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tehV
Profile Joined September 2010
28 Posts
November 13 2010 04:17 GMT
#8
Who cares about his labels for the point ranges? His poll is well defined and your preference of adjective isn't the point of this poll.

Though I'd rather have the poll be defined by, (current points + unused bonus pool). As most people should be well settled into their position by now that purely adding bonus pool to your points is probably accurate enough to compare person to person.

5unrise
Profile Joined May 2009
New Zealand646 Posts
November 13 2010 04:22 GMT
#9
Sea server @ 1960 pts after I used up all my bonus pool points this morning ;p
peachsncream
Profile Joined April 2010
United States289 Posts
November 13 2010 04:26 GMT
#10
I wouldn't say points determine a "top". The players I play that are at 2300-2500 have no idea how to play and honestly feels like they matched me with rt players. You should go by win % and points because a 50-0 800 point player will never lose to a 2600 600-500 player meaning they are not top.
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atrocity3010
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
70 Posts
November 13 2010 04:27 GMT
#11
Goldtard reporting for duty. I feel bad for the one guy who's all alone in bronze.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
November 13 2010 04:31 GMT
#12
Oh god, not another one of these threads.
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
November 13 2010 04:31 GMT
#13
I'm around 1400 on US and 1600 on SEA, but i don't play on SEA often now.
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
November 13 2010 04:38 GMT
#14
Heh I'm over 2200 but I would hardly call myself top diamond ><. I think of it more as "high"
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
November 13 2010 04:56 GMT
#15
On November 13 2010 13:38 EtherealDeath wrote:
Heh I'm over 2200 but I would hardly call myself top diamond ><. I think of it more as "high"

Same T_T;, almost 2400 and still think I'm awful :<.
Seraph.yongweihua
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada224 Posts
November 13 2010 08:49 GMT
#16
I had to put low diamond down, but I plan to devote the entire day tomorrow to laddering. I'll be mid diamond by the end of tomorrow night.
Sniffy
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia290 Posts
November 13 2010 08:55 GMT
#17
High Diamond would have to be alow higher than 1800. I'm 1750 if you add bonus pool but you'd probably laugh if you saw me play.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 13 2010 08:56 GMT
#18
2200 is top diamond? im almost 2400 and i'm not a top player, actually i m quite awful
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Jocoma
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark100 Posts
November 13 2010 08:59 GMT
#19
Platinum here, I suck at button smashing, especially when it has to be in the right order :D
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
November 13 2010 09:01 GMT
#20
Holy shit. The thread wasn't made to discuss what every persons opinion is on what they think is the range for low mid high diamond.
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Koh
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom111 Posts
November 13 2010 09:02 GMT
#21
Gold and proud. I'm more inclined to go for varied macro tactics at the moment to develop my skills, about 2 games every evening, I'm called a noob by very angry platinum players very frequently, quite satisfying.
DanceDance
Profile Joined November 2008
226 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 09:14:55
November 13 2010 09:09 GMT
#22
Low Diamond here, slowly making my way up

Can I make a suggestion? I don't know if this is the right place to do so but it is in regards to the ladder and I don't want to make a new thread over it.

A feature I would like to see is a 'progression bar'. This would show you your position on the progress bar to being promoted to the next league. The more games you win, the higher you go on the progression bar. The more games you lose, the lower you go on the progression bar. Once the progression bar is full, you automatically get promoted to the next league.
IAttackYou
Profile Joined August 2010
United States330 Posts
November 13 2010 09:14 GMT
#23
Yay!! Gotta show the love for the Bronze community <3<3<3 Im sure we have more diverse place then everyone in mid diamond ^___^
I'm not a nub, I'm gosu of tomorrow
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
November 13 2010 09:17 GMT
#24
I found this useful despite everyone saying the numbers need to be changed. Might as well make a new list where each 100 is it's own voting category, 1100 diamond, 1200, 1300, etc. seems the only possible way people can be satisfied.
D1pstick
Profile Joined October 2010
United States106 Posts
November 13 2010 09:49 GMT
#25
Bronze, don't have an issue with it. SC2 is my RTS to play competitively. 50/50 Win Loss ratio. I'm actually glad I got placed in bronze, as I can only get better
guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
November 13 2010 09:52 GMT
#26
Finally proof that everyone is in diamond.
“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Hemingway
junemermaid
Profile Joined September 2006
United States981 Posts
November 13 2010 09:53 GMT
#27
On November 13 2010 18:01 Bosu wrote:
Holy shit. The thread wasn't made to discuss what every persons opinion is on what they think is the range for low mid high diamond.


Place your vote and move along. Seriously, people.
the UMP says YER OUT
sagrado_corazon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States100 Posts
November 13 2010 09:53 GMT
#28
Representing plat here. hehe :p
GrazerRinge
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
999 Posts
November 13 2010 10:15 GMT
#29
400 dia with 1100+ bonus pool
recently doing mass teamgames for more portraits
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Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 10:17:18
November 13 2010 10:15 GMT
#30
On November 13 2010 17:56 Geo.Rion wrote:
2200 is top diamond? im almost 2400 and i'm not a top player, actually i m quite awful

Top diamond doesn't mean top player. Pros have wide ranges of ratings but when it comes to games that matter they demolish top diamonds with ease.
Edit: I'm 'mid diamond' playing against high diamond with ton of bonus points cause I don't play much. Voted myself into high diamond because of it.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
November 13 2010 10:34 GMT
#31
Most TL members are of relatively high skill since we have SC passion.
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
November 13 2010 13:55 GMT
#32
just fell down from 1800 to 1750, but i have about 300 in my bonuspool so i guess checking "high" shouldnt be a problem
btlyger
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States470 Posts
November 13 2010 17:38 GMT
#33
I'm not necessarily surprised with the results so far, but I might add another poll with "How many games have you played?" to see how that fits in with the distribution.
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SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
November 13 2010 17:41 GMT
#34
2100 Diamond but i think is mid diamond but well
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