[MLG Dallas] American vs. Korean eSports Events - Page 2
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
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mOnion
United States5651 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Hopefully MLG will be able to reorganize for the 2011 season! | ||
aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
On the other hand, I believe the MLG setup is excellent in letting the players and spectators feel like they're both part of the event equally. At the end of the match, the competitors and casters don't walk off the side of the stage, as if they're avoiding the fans. The setup feels much more personal. | ||
Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On November 11 2010 15:42 aksfjh wrote: On some level, I agree with you 100%. SC2 has some excellent commentary and casting makes some boring matches worth watching. The Korean/Blizzcon setup is very professional and brings focus to the match. On the other hand, I believe the MLG setup is excellent in letting the players and spectators feel like they're both part of the event equally. At the end of the match, the competitors and casters don't walk off the side of the stage, as if they're avoiding the fans. The setup feels much more personal. I feel the same way as you. Also, I know some of the players liked that the way the player area was settup they didn't have to look into an audience while playing. Makes it easier to concentrate on the game which I think is good. | ||
PH
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Ghad
Norway2551 Posts
Apart from that, I have to say that there are definite pros and cons to both setups. | ||
pinke
United States56 Posts
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Peanutsc
United States277 Posts
On November 11 2010 15:24 Logo wrote: Great post; I hope the adjust the stage around for 2011. I wonder if it's like it is at all because of Halo. Is the Halo stage setup the same way? If so do you think it's intentionally done differently due to being primarily a team and console game? I didn't actually check out the Halo tournament at all. Did anybody else see it? About the pros for players in the MLG tournament - I agree that the MLG setup brings players and spectators closer together, but there is a definite cost in terms of spectator-commentary engagement. I'd personally rather hang out with the players between games or before/after the day's events, but different strokes for different folks. I personally don't think the player booths add all that much to the experience. It's nice to see who's actually playing, but it's not as if you get any extra game insight from watching them look at a monitor through a glass pane. There's definitely room for innovation in SC venue layout - these two examples are only two of many possible setups. Perhaps sometime we'll find a happy medium where players and spectators can feel closer together without sacrificing salience of commentary. | ||
SpartanFrog
United States22 Posts
I think though that Korean way really hinges off having the sound proof booths though as we have seen with in korea that is it possible to cheat or accidently hear the crowd while mlg works somewhat the other way. Yea the crowd is respectfully but stupid things happen that can't be controlled. We don't know what MLG has prepared for '11. Can they afford booths? Do they want booths? We have heard that they will kinda be a main stage in '11 but what also does that entail? Will we see their whole mlg.tv expanded for us? The result is that audience members are less likely to give the commentary their full attention and instead dissolve into personal commentary and theorycrafting with their neighbors, which can interfere with the experience of the people who want to just listen to the professional commentary. At BlizzCon, the audience tended to be silent along the lines of an audience at a theatrical play as opposed to a professional sporting event, and it seems to me that this was a direct effect of the commentators' proximity to the audience. This quote really interests me. I don't think it distracts at all. When your at a baseball game you don't really have a commentator unless you bring a small radio along or maybe have a luxury seat w/ a TV. Why can't people talk amongst themselves and listen I know I can. Also maybe you were at Blizzcon but it seems more to me and to some extend during GSL(during non-finals/season1 opener) that the mics aren't picking up the crowd as good? MLG wasn't much better or better at all but from everyone is saying that MLG was having huge crowds watching being so far away may have to do with that.Conclusion: Lets let MLG show what they kinda want to do first and then hopefully they let us somewhat tweak it so new can join in and old will have a great time. | ||
Peanutsc
United States277 Posts
On November 11 2010 16:48 Grevious wrote: Note: I really like the Blizzcon/Korean way better I think though that Korean way really hinges off having the sound proof booths though as we have seen with in korea that is it possible to cheat or accidently hear the crowd while mlg works somewhat the other way. Yea the crowd is respectfully but stupid things happen that can't be controlled. We don't know what MLG has prepared for '11. Can they afford booths? Do they want booths? We have heard that they will kinda be a main stage in '11 but what also does that entail? Will we see their whole mlg.tv expanded for us? This quote really interests me. I don't think it distracts at all. When your at a baseball game you don't really have a commentator unless you bring a small radio along or maybe have a luxury seat w/ a TV. Why can't people talk amongst themselves and listen I know I can. Also maybe you were at Blizzcon but it seems more to me and to some extend during GSL(during non-finals/season1 opener) that the mics aren't picking up the crowd as good? MLG wasn't much better or better at all but from everyone is saying that MLG was having huge crowds watching being so far away may have to do with that. Conclusion: Lets let MLG show what they kinda want to do first and then hopefully they let us somewhat tweak it so new can join in and old will have a great time. You're lucky to be able to talk and listen at the same time! Basically, the theory is that many people (myself included) can't talk and listen to the SC commentators at the same time because they often speak very quickly (due to SC's fast pace, color commentary, etc.). I personally get a lot more out of the audience experience when I can hear the commentary clearly, which was not always the case at MLG - there were several times when the audience yelled to the staff to turn up the speakers since we couldn't hear them well. I'm not sure about the mics at MLG picking up the audience, but it would make sense to me that if the commentators were closer to the audience, it might be easier to have an integrated mic system that picks up their reactions more efficiently than if they're far away. | ||
Slasher
United States1095 Posts
MLG's setup will be way different in 2011 than it was in 2010, more likely closer to the Halo stage, which is very similar to the previously mentioned leagues' setups for Starcraft. | ||
trancey
United States430 Posts
On November 11 2010 15:24 Logo wrote: Great post; I hope the adjust the stage around for 2011. I wonder if it's like it is at all because of Halo. Is the Halo stage setup the same way? If so do you think it's intentionally done differently due to being primarily a team and console game? MLG has been doing Halo events for almost a decade now (52 halo events total thus far), it's been their cash cow and they always manage to fill a 256 team bracket~ (most of the time even more teams) which includes 4 players per team minimum, the pro player line-ups, coaches, alternates, sponsors and console related booths, etc... More to the point, the Halo Franchise is to MLG as StarCraft 1 is to Korean eSports if I were to make it an easy analogy. (In actuality, Halo as an competitive video game probably has the 2nd biggest competitive market to StarCraft). So basically expect SC2 to be given similar respect as Halo event has received at future events. | ||
Snuggles
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T0fuuu
Australia2275 Posts
The bad part about mlg are those pathetic curtains they have for the booth. They are not gonna stop any sound. | ||
Peanutsc
United States277 Posts
On November 12 2010 03:10 Slasher wrote: In general, GSL, WCG and BlizzCon's setups are nearly identical, with ESL following suit except they dont have soundproof booths. Out of all of these leagues/events, MLG is the only one to have an open entry/bracket tournament that isn't invites or qualifiers. GSL is too, but the broadcasting is stretched out over a month, not 3 days. MLG's setup will be way different in 2011 than it was in 2010, more likely closer to the Halo stage, which is very similar to the previously mentioned leagues' setups for Starcraft. Thanks for the update, Slasher. I'm looking forward to seeing what MLG has in store for us next year. I've been to several WCG events, but they've all been in the US, so I figured I didn't have a representative enough experience to include them in my article (actually, TorcH told me this). | ||
PackofHighly
United States153 Posts
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okuraku
United States210 Posts
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Morpheis
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yoplate
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