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RookM
Profile Joined August 2010
United States45 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-06 21:41:14
November 06 2010 21:39 GMT
#141
Machine is also the guy that went tit for tat against WhiteRa in a series of showmatches back in July or so, when WhiteRa was really more on the top of his game. I don't think it's fair to say he's just mediocre (even just as a top player) given that he won the first showmatch against WhiteRa 4-1. And sure, it's random seeds so it's inevitable he'll hit a teammate eventually; nobody is disagreeing with that.

But to draw the same thing randomly three times in a row is simply unlucky. That's the definition of bad luck... random things swinging against you rather than back and forth. I think Machine just gets nervous at LANs, and under performs. I'm hoping he can change that around this time, since I really think he's in the top 3 zergs in NA.
Our imagination is stretched to the utmost, not, as in fiction, to imagine things which are not really there, but just to comprehend those things which are there. -Richard Feynman
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
November 06 2010 21:41 GMT
#142
oh man thats really sad.
GO GO Machine Fighting.
Next time as u already know ur opponent u wont get knocked out by him. "Hopefully"
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
November 06 2010 21:52 GMT
#143
Machine > iNcontroL in Dallas.

GL versus SeleCT.

/thread
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
November 06 2010 22:02 GMT
#144
Team killing is not fun and the brackets should be setup to avoid it.
There's no S in KT. :P
Chiburi
Profile Joined July 2010
United States166 Posts
November 06 2010 22:06 GMT
#145
Way to break the curse. Machine fighting!
"Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think we lack the courage to stand in the light." ~Zeratul
Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada967 Posts
November 06 2010 22:06 GMT
#146
Machine confirmed most ballerific player in the world
Team[AoV]
OwlFeet
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
75 Posts
November 06 2010 22:14 GMT
#147
Machinuuuuuuuu > Select
Vz0
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada378 Posts
November 06 2010 22:15 GMT
#148
machine vs select.. seriously.. I think Z is over powred (and I am a Protoss player, search me up Virgozero) so this ain't some bias BS.

I mean did yuo see how easy it was for Machine to Win?
Scouts 1/1/1 banshee, okay, make a bunch of banelings, GG.

All this is because terran is unable to put on early pressure that can diminish the Zerg's opportunities.

Again all this is as far as I can see, I am not provoking QQing but simply analysis.
Whiladan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
November 06 2010 22:17 GMT
#149
On November 07 2010 07:15 Vz0 wrote:
machine vs select.. seriously.. I think Z is over powred (and I am a Protoss player, search me up Virgozero) so this ain't some bias BS.

I mean did yuo see how easy it was for Machine to Win?
Scouts 1/1/1 banshee, okay, make a bunch of banelings, GG.

All this is because terran is unable to put on early pressure that can diminish the Zerg's opportunities.

Again all this is as far as I can see, I am not provoking QQing but simply analysis.



You should watch FoxeR vs FruitDealer. SeleCT was outplayed.
Mortecian
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada87 Posts
November 06 2010 22:19 GMT
#150
lol. Yeah, attacking when someone just invested in expanding, just started a bunker and has not his depot lifted to block while getting his units surrounded is definitely proving OPness.

It's just called a VERY good timing >_>;;
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
November 06 2010 22:19 GMT
#151
I am so happy for Machine now, it would have been tragic to see him early eliminated again.
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
leftykill
Profile Joined October 2009
United States120 Posts
November 06 2010 22:21 GMT
#152
Might need to change the title of thread to " Machine unluckiest player in the world, but still able to overcome the odds that God has put against him"
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 06 2010 22:21 GMT
#153
MAMAMAMA-CHINE FIGHTING! :'D
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
November 06 2010 22:25 GMT
#154
On November 07 2010 07:02 Baarn wrote:
Team killing is not fun and the brackets should be setup to avoid it.


Yes, let's give an unfair advantage to people who are on top teams in an individual tournament, that makes sense.
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sely
Profile Joined June 2009
United States30 Posts
November 06 2010 22:25 GMT
#155
Is potentially facing a teammate in the third round of a tournament really that unlucky? There are like 7 EG players in this tourney, and a bunch of Liquid, Root, etc., when it is acceptable for two players on the same team to face each other? Ro8? Ro4? Finals?

If you care about the integrity of this or any other tournament than team affiliations should NEVER influence seeding. Invitational tourneys may be an exception. I am really surprised that so many people seem outraged about teammates facing each other.

Congrats to Machine however for doing so well to this point.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
November 06 2010 22:28 GMT
#156
On November 07 2010 07:15 Vz0 wrote:
machine vs select.. seriously.. I think Z is over powred (and I am a Protoss player, search me up Virgozero) so this ain't some bias BS.

I mean did yuo see how easy it was for Machine to Win?
Scouts 1/1/1 banshee, okay, make a bunch of banelings, GG.

All this is because terran is unable to put on early pressure that can diminish the Zerg's opportunities.

Again all this is as far as I can see, I am not provoking QQing but simply analysis.


Remember that select has publicly announced that he didn't have any zerg practice partner leading up to DC just a few weeks ago and that zerg vs terran meta game is very highly developed (since there is no protoss representation in the gsl herp derp). Zergs have figured out how to pick apart terrans and I think a lot of terrans are still used to being ahead in the mid game because of pre 1.12 "abuse" and now that the play field is leveled, a lot of terrans are struggling to figure out how to deal with mid-late game zergs.

get rich or die mining
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Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
November 06 2010 22:28 GMT
#157
Machine is a baller this tournament
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
CtrlAltGG
Profile Joined October 2010
United States36 Posts
November 06 2010 22:33 GMT
#158
On November 07 2010 07:02 Baarn wrote:
Team killing is not fun and the brackets should be setup to avoid it.


Too true its been happening a lot the only people members of team liquid have lost to are other team liquid members. But when 2/3s of the seeded players (made up statistic but its still A LOT) and about half the entire field are split between 3 or foir teams its gonna happen.

EG Machine FTW
Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
November 06 2010 22:50 GMT
#159
On November 07 2010 07:33 CtrlAltGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 07:02 Baarn wrote:
Team killing is not fun and the brackets should be setup to avoid it.


Too true its been happening a lot the only people members of team liquid have lost to are other team liquid members. But when 2/3s of the seeded players (made up statistic but its still A LOT) and about half the entire field are split between 3 or foir teams its gonna happen.

EG Machine FTW

I don't have a problem with the brackets not taking teams into account but I would like to see some Team tournaments.
^O^
Nayl
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada413 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-06 22:56:01
November 06 2010 22:55 GMT
#160
On November 07 2010 07:25 sely wrote:
Is potentially facing a teammate in the third round of a tournament really that unlucky? There are like 7 EG players in this tourney, and a bunch of Liquid, Root, etc., when it is acceptable for two players on the same team to face each other? Ro8? Ro4? Finals?

If you care about the integrity of this or any other tournament than team affiliations should NEVER influence seeding. Invitational tourneys may be an exception. I am really surprised that so many people seem outraged about teammates facing each other.

Congrats to Machine however for doing so well to this point.


read the thread?

hes unlucky because he faced incontrol early on for the past 2 MLGs as well.
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