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Whiladan
United States463 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/lQUns.jpg) This is what, the third time in a row this has happened at MLG? I mean, this was a pretty big bracket error in the first two...is this ridiculous or am I overreacting? Update: both players facing each other in Winners Round 3 on day 2. Update 2: Machine beats iNControL and SeleCT 2:0, looks like he took all points out of LCK and into STR when he made his character. | ||
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GenoZStriker
United States2914 Posts
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DeltruS
Canada2214 Posts
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GenoZStriker
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Dingotrold
Denmark622 Posts
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
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Teddyman
Finland362 Posts
On November 06 2010 10:34 Kraz.Del wrote: We'll see who he runs into in the losers bracket. I see you've already eliminated the possibility of him actually winning vs InControl. | ||
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TributeBoxer
United States163 Posts
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Senx
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Eiii
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knyttym
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Israel2209 Posts
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Tabbris
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Mofisto
United Kingdom585 Posts
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On November 06 2010 10:42 Eiii wrote: Well, I'm suddenly really looking forward to the next SotG podcast :D LMAO soooo truuu! hahaha poor Machine | ||
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Defeat
United States476 Posts
On November 06 2010 10:46 mofisto wrote: Clearly im just being thick, but I have no idea whats going on. What am I looking at? The MLG Dallas SC2 1v1 brackets. Machine has been put against InControl every single MLG and knocked out by him. He's always gotten knocked out early and has never been able to get points to be seeded better. | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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KinosJourney2
Sweden1811 Posts
I'm actually feeling more sorry for JP, Incontrol is gonna be furious >:3 | ||
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Whiladan
United States463 Posts
On November 06 2010 10:47 Defeat wrote: The MLG Dallas SC2 1v1 brackets. Machine has been put against InControl every single MLG and knocked out by him. He's always gotten knocked out early and has never been able to get points to be seeded better. It's a shame, I'm a big EG fan and Machine is honestly such a strong player. | ||
Cyanocyst
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JJEOS
United States127 Posts
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Minx_x
Turkey68 Posts
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
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ooni
Australia1498 Posts
GL Machine~~! | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=165557 | ||
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SoJu.WeRRa
Korea (South)820 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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Whiladan
United States463 Posts
On November 06 2010 10:54 LuckyFool wrote: Hey Whiladan I used ur pic in my blog that's in the spotlight right now about mlg, (I started it off about watching for Machines rotten luck) hope it's cool, I credited you. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=165557 No problem, although I may invoke IP rights for the two circles, lines, and WTF. =) | ||
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DonKey_
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
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Aquafresh
United States824 Posts
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Tef
Sweden443 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
On November 06 2010 11:00 Tef wrote: I don't get it. It's 50% chance they will be on the same side of the bracket, big deal. They are going to meet each other early in the tournament for the 3rd straight time. assuming they both win. | ||
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EchOne
United States2906 Posts
On November 06 2010 11:00 Tef wrote: I don't get it. It's 50% chance they will be on the same side of the bracket, big deal. The chance of being able to meet on the 3rd round is much smaller than the chance of being on the same side of the bracket at all. | ||
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GenoZStriker
United States2914 Posts
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Zerglinguist
United States55 Posts
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
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SilverPotato
United States560 Posts
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bjornkavist
Canada1235 Posts
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TheMonkeyMon
United States119 Posts
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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Gaius Baltar
United States449 Posts
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groms
Canada1017 Posts
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IamAnton
Canada335 Posts
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Looky
United States1608 Posts
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MadZ
Denmark111 Posts
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Clow
Brazil880 Posts
Poor guy :< I really like his play. | ||
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Ryzu
United States369 Posts
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LlamaNamedOsama
United States1900 Posts
On November 06 2010 11:46 IamAnton wrote: you gotta beat the best to win regardless so why does it matter who he plays and when. Because it's his own teammate, too, and either way one of them is going to have to take a loss. | ||
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Cynoks
United States87 Posts
On November 06 2010 11:46 IamAnton wrote: you gotta beat the best to win regardless so why does it matter who he plays and when. Machine can't get a better seed that's more fitting to his actual skill level when he keeps getting bs early round games like this. It kinda sucks that Haypro might get knocked down in his first match already too. | ||
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Kolvacs
Canada1203 Posts
On November 06 2010 10:42 Eiii wrote: Well, I'm suddenly really looking forward to the next SotG podcast :D +1!!! | ||
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netherDrake
Singapore1831 Posts
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On November 06 2010 13:07 Darpa wrote: I would rather play Incontrol than a bunch of the other players, the bonus being he knows how Inc plays, only crappy thing is they are on the same team, sucks for EG that they are always playing so early. That also means Incontrol knows how Machine plays though and Machine has more nerve issues than Incontrol. Besides either way it's EG playing EG which sucks for them whoever wins. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
He wins the unluckiest player of 2010 without a shout of a doubt. | ||
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DminusTerran
Canada1337 Posts
Edit: He's not gonna stop there either, spurred on by his victory he is going to drive over to G5's house and bring that big mother outside the house for a good ol' learnin' fisticuffs style. "Keep your hands off my sister fool!" Machine Fighting! Good luck have Batman! | ||
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TimesharE
United States62 Posts
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Kamille
Monaco1035 Posts
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
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Vancouver14381 Posts
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ScarletKnight
United States691 Posts
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
On November 06 2010 13:09 Logo wrote: That also means Incontrol knows how Machine plays though and Machine has more nerve issues than Incontrol. Besides either way it's EG playing EG which sucks for them whoever wins. True, but my point was merely that incontrol isnt the most dangerous player to be playing in that round. It should be a good match. | ||
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Whiladan
United States463 Posts
Of course, as far as I know, neither player has any problems with each other...but here on the internet, we like to blow things out of proportion. ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/gJC4K.jpg) | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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Legat0
United States318 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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OPSavioR
Sweden1465 Posts
On November 06 2010 10:35 Dingotrold wrote: Maybe 3rd time's the charm for Machine! YEAH!! Machine must win for the love of god!!!! | ||
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kalimari
United States57 Posts
On November 06 2010 13:21 Whiladan wrote: On a separate note, if iNControL beats Machine, he will most likely face SeleCT. This is pretty hilarious, because Geoff drew some net-hate for "criticizing" SeleCT's playstyle on SOTG. Of course, as far as I know, neither player has any problems with each other...but here on the internet, we like to blow things out of proportion. Win! Especially if Select uses the same strategy he used in MLG DC. But GL to both players, I'll be watching 8). | ||
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
On November 06 2010 10:52 JJEOS wrote: Aww poor thing he has to win matches in a tournament. rofl seriously what the fuck is this? | ||
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Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
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Whiladan
United States463 Posts
On November 06 2010 13:50 Jehct wrote: Machines gonna take this 2:0 fueled by his secret rage at the things G5 is doing with his sister, then Incontrol is gonna tear through the losers bracket until he stumbles into Machine again just so he can knock Machine out of the tournament one last time. Called it! This. God please, this. | ||
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TMTurtle
183 Posts
On November 06 2010 13:14 GenoZStriker wrote: GLHB <>Good luck, have Batman Machine | ||
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
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netherDrake
Singapore1831 Posts
And he'll beat Machine again in LB, thereby continuing Machine's streak. | ||
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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
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imyzhang
Canada809 Posts
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SiguR
Canada2039 Posts
On November 06 2010 14:39 imyzhang wrote: machine against the world!! Pretty much! Except in order to get to the world.... he needs to beat his teammates. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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Zeroes
United States1102 Posts
On November 06 2010 14:52 crms wrote: need incontrol to play select plz plz plz, the ridiculousness the internets will create will be awesome. knowing machine's match history with incontrol he probably will. Unless machine has something up his sleeve. | ||
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
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Tiaan
United States35 Posts
Machine's lack of good performances at the past few MLGs haven't been because he's faced "hard" opponents early on, it's because he just under preforms at these events. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Pfhor
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I'm rooting for my man incontrol guy is so awesome | ||
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cyprin
United States1105 Posts
On November 06 2010 00:38 cyprin wrote: @Slasher History will repeat itself, Machine vs InControl extremely early in the tournament. Machine will lose. [incontrol will probably try to rip jp's head off. metaphorically.] i'm somekind of superhero :p | ||
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Strut
United States182 Posts
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luckySe7en
148 Posts
it's like putting in your name as "none" in the drivers license, and then you get thousands of parking tickets sent to your address from somewhere you don't even know | ||
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Borked
221 Posts
On November 06 2010 15:41 luckySe7en wrote: is "EG.Machine" a script call function that's fucking up the server subroutines? it's like putting in your name as "none" in the drivers license, and then you get thousands of parking tickets sent to your address from somewhere you don't even know good one | ||
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fdsdfg
United States1251 Posts
On November 06 2010 15:41 luckySe7en wrote: is "EG.Machine" a script call function that's fucking up the server subroutines? it's like putting in your name as "none" in the drivers license, and then you get thousands of parking tickets sent to your address from somewhere you don't even know I think you mean license plate to 'none'. I don't think anyone has their name as 'none' on their drivers license, or will write a ticket and accept the claim that they have no name. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Artisan
United States336 Posts
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Rampager
Australia1007 Posts
Nah, Machine is pretty unlucky, bad luck dude | ||
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Strategos
Canada132 Posts
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cyprin
United States1105 Posts
On November 06 2010 16:14 Strategos wrote: i really dont get how this is unlucky lol... so he gets to play incontrol two rounds afterwards i fail to see how this is unlucky or relevant at all Read past the picture. Machine has played Incontrol at every MLG event. | ||
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intergalactic
Canada428 Posts
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jaycee
Australia62 Posts
iNcontrol could have thrown a game to advance Machine and get him some points, so that as a team they'd fare better in future / both be seeded and this wouldn't happen. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
On November 06 2010 14:54 n0xi3 wrote: i mean they were both seeded... not much you can do where they end up really... Machine had 0 points and was unseeded. I posted this in the other thread, but the reason iNcontroL has defeated machine both other MLG's is because geoff is willing to use the strategy that is less practiced but wins. He doesn't cannon rush or cnanon in machine during CG's, but machine wants to play the macro game, so he just 14 pooled 16 hatched every game and geoff took advantage of that. Flash cheeses when he needs to cheese, doesn't matter the series, he knows he can win the macro game but he also knows how to win the game period. Machine needs to change something up to put incontrol off balance just like geoff did to machine at raleigh and DC. Whether thats a 6 pool or wahtever, doesn't really matter, but something hast to change. Maybe machine can do that 9 pool 9 gas 9 roach warren build that geoff talked about, but machine can't play standard every time and expect geoff not to take advantage of that. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11047 Posts
I'd just 6 pool in frustration. | ||
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chokke
Norway228 Posts
On November 06 2010 17:27 Sabu113 wrote: lololol I'd just 6 pool in frustration. His 4-pool in BW lately didn't do to much.. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
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TaKemE
Denmark1045 Posts
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netherDrake
Singapore1831 Posts
On November 06 2010 20:37 TaKemE wrote: Looking at the bracket his not realy unlocky this time so many strong players in next round. Yeah, No offense to Incontrol, but as silly as it seems Machine is lucky to get him instead of stronger players like Huk/qxc/Sen/Idra/Fenix. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
Eventually he has to beat him in MLG if he wants to cash in. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10304 Posts
+ incontrol shouldn't have that many problems in the Looser bracket | ||
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LunarC
United States1186 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On November 06 2010 16:39 intergalactic wrote: Haha, oh man. I look forward to iNcontrol vs SeleCT. That's more interesting than Machine facing his teammate 3 times in a row This. I hope Inc wins so we can watch him easily counter Select's predictable play....  | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
On November 06 2010 17:05 ZlaSHeR wrote: Machine had 0 points and was unseeded. I posted this in the other thread, but the reason iNcontroL has defeated machine both other MLG's is because geoff is willing to use the strategy that is less practiced but wins. He doesn't cannon rush or cnanon in machine during CG's, but machine wants to play the macro game, so he just 14 pooled 16 hatched every game and geoff took advantage of that. I think Machine is scared of what iNcontrol could do to him back at the EG house if he knocked Geoff out. | ||
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MannerMan
371 Posts
That said, it is pretty funny that he got to Incontrol so fast. | ||
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Helluva
United States651 Posts
On November 06 2010 20:07 chokke wrote: His 4-pool in BW lately didn't do to much.. Yeah, like the game he did vs Nyoken at WCG USA. | ||
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grandmoose
United States160 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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Escapist
Portugal548 Posts
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
Its stupid regardless though, they should randomize the bracket not only seeds vs no seeds but different teams vs dif teams, so that teammates doesn't have to play eachother this early. | ||
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zerotol
Belgium508 Posts
This is not intended as a flame but just stating the facts derived from tournament results. Top Americas : Idra,Huk,Select Sub-Top: Kiwikaki,Fenix,Qxc Medium-Top:EG members | ||
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zeru
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JQL
United States214 Posts
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SilverPotato
United States560 Posts
On November 07 2010 00:17 JQL wrote: I think a lot of people are misunderstanding the "unlucky" part of the situation. Machine and incontrol are both unlucky to have to face each other so early in the tournament because they are from the same team. This unlucky does not refer to OMG incontrol is so pro, poor machine is facing him so early. The OP of this thread is actually very misleading. That's not the joke though bro! >< | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n536/alej15/inc.jpg?t=1289056911) Really unfortunate for both of these players. It's true that machine hasn't racked up any seeding points but it is still luck of the draw that he faces his teammate for the 3rd time in 3 mlg's. Hopefully whoever loses performs well in the lower bracket. go EG!! | ||
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Slakter
Sweden1947 Posts
Nice how IdrA is a top american player but EG is medium. I think this proves how little you know about the scene in itself. | ||
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cava
United States1035 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On November 07 2010 01:05 cava wrote: They are meeting in winners bracket round 4. That is pretty far into the tournament. I don't think thats unlucky just inevitable. but but but they both had byes in the first round! :D 1st round in raleigh, 2nd round in DC, 3rd (or 4th) round in Dallas so I guess it's not craziest thing in the world but still noteworthy because of the first 2 events imo edit: and also because of the banter on the state of the game podcasts! | ||
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iSTime
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On November 07 2010 00:56 Sl4ktarN wrote: Nice how IdrA is a top american player but EG is medium. I think this proves how little you know about the scene in itself. lol? Anyone who knows anything about the scene knows exactly what zerotol is talking about. If you think anyone other than IdrA on EG is a top player currently, you're pretty mistaken. They're all really good players, but their performance at MLG and other major events has been pretty mediocre. They even got all killed recently box AHHHBOXAH, who is also very good but not even close to HuK, Select, IdrA. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
Or atleast guarenteed 1 round win sometime | ||
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dredd276
United States80 Posts
On November 06 2010 23:57 zerotol wrote: The problem lies in the fact that Machine as a top player is mediocre. If he isn't even good enough to beat Incontrol, who is mediocre too, he won't get anywhere. This is not intended as a flame but just stating the facts derived from tournament results. Top Americas : Idra,Huk,Select Sub-Top: Kiwikaki,Fenix,Qxc Medium-Top:EG members If you think that everyone outside the top 6 players in NA is "mediocre" or worse, it's time to pull your head out of your ass. Machine might not be great, but he's still very good. | ||
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
I used to play Magic the Gathering, and in the first round of a 1k+ person tournament I matched up with my teammate (3 out of 1083 possible people). Shrug. Them's the breaks. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
EG Machine finally gets a break and takes game 2 against his teammate EG iNcontroL. He wins the series 2-0 with huge ling pressure and advances as incontrol tells him "gg, please beat select") in chat. lol @ iNcontroL. Hopefully Machine goes farther in the tournament. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10304 Posts
3:57 EG Machine finally gets a break and takes game 2 against his teammate EG iNcontroL. He wins the series 2-0 with huge ling pressure and advances as incontrol tells him "gg, please beat select") in chat. fucking hillarious | ||
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Iced_tea
United States42 Posts
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skirmisheR
Sweden451 Posts
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ryanAnger
United States838 Posts
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zeru
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kidcrash89
198 Posts
On November 07 2010 06:24 zeru wrote: You try to hard. Everyone understood exactly what zerotol ment, but you pretend you didn't. Good job making yourself look like a fool. It's still not exactly accurate. This MLG definitely has a lot higher caliber players than some of the others. DC had a pretty weak pool. It's cool to see Machine actually advancing to have a chance against other people | ||
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iSTime
1579 Posts
On November 07 2010 04:28 dredd276 wrote: If you think that everyone outside the top 6 players in NA is "mediocre" or worse, it's time to pull your head out of your ass. Machine might not be great, but he's still very good. I guess you don't know how to read. See the bolded. | ||
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Champi
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RookM
United States45 Posts
But to draw the same thing randomly three times in a row is simply unlucky. That's the definition of bad luck... random things swinging against you rather than back and forth. I think Machine just gets nervous at LANs, and under performs. I'm hoping he can change that around this time, since I really think he's in the top 3 zergs in NA. | ||
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
GO GO Machine Fighting. Next time as u already know ur opponent u wont get knocked out by him. "Hopefully" | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
GL versus SeleCT. /thread | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
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Chiburi
United States166 Posts
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Lightswarm
Canada966 Posts
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Vz0
Canada378 Posts
I mean did yuo see how easy it was for Machine to Win? Scouts 1/1/1 banshee, okay, make a bunch of banelings, GG. All this is because terran is unable to put on early pressure that can diminish the Zerg's opportunities. Again all this is as far as I can see, I am not provoking QQing but simply analysis. | ||
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Whiladan
United States463 Posts
On November 07 2010 07:15 Vz0 wrote: machine vs select.. seriously.. I think Z is over powred (and I am a Protoss player, search me up Virgozero) so this ain't some bias BS. I mean did yuo see how easy it was for Machine to Win? Scouts 1/1/1 banshee, okay, make a bunch of banelings, GG. All this is because terran is unable to put on early pressure that can diminish the Zerg's opportunities. Again all this is as far as I can see, I am not provoking QQing but simply analysis. You should watch FoxeR vs FruitDealer. SeleCT was outplayed. | ||
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Mortecian
Canada87 Posts
It's just called a VERY good timing >_>;; | ||
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Ghad
Norway2551 Posts
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leftykill
United States120 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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iSTime
1579 Posts
On November 07 2010 07:02 Baarn wrote: Team killing is not fun and the brackets should be setup to avoid it. Yes, let's give an unfair advantage to people who are on top teams in an individual tournament, that makes sense. | ||
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sely
United States30 Posts
If you care about the integrity of this or any other tournament than team affiliations should NEVER influence seeding. Invitational tourneys may be an exception. I am really surprised that so many people seem outraged about teammates facing each other. Congrats to Machine however for doing so well to this point. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On November 07 2010 07:15 Vz0 wrote: machine vs select.. seriously.. I think Z is over powred (and I am a Protoss player, search me up Virgozero) so this ain't some bias BS. I mean did yuo see how easy it was for Machine to Win? Scouts 1/1/1 banshee, okay, make a bunch of banelings, GG. All this is because terran is unable to put on early pressure that can diminish the Zerg's opportunities. Again all this is as far as I can see, I am not provoking QQing but simply analysis. Remember that select has publicly announced that he didn't have any zerg practice partner leading up to DC just a few weeks ago and that zerg vs terran meta game is very highly developed (since there is no protoss representation in the gsl herp derp). Zergs have figured out how to pick apart terrans and I think a lot of terrans are still used to being ahead in the mid game because of pre 1.12 "abuse" and now that the play field is leveled, a lot of terrans are struggling to figure out how to deal with mid-late game zergs. | ||
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Aegeis
United States1619 Posts
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CtrlAltGG
United States36 Posts
On November 07 2010 07:02 Baarn wrote: Team killing is not fun and the brackets should be setup to avoid it. Too true its been happening a lot the only people members of team liquid have lost to are other team liquid members. But when 2/3s of the seeded players (made up statistic but its still A LOT) and about half the entire field are split between 3 or foir teams its gonna happen. EG Machine FTW | ||
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Moa
United States790 Posts
On November 07 2010 07:33 CtrlAltGG wrote: Too true its been happening a lot the only people members of team liquid have lost to are other team liquid members. But when 2/3s of the seeded players (made up statistic but its still A LOT) and about half the entire field are split between 3 or foir teams its gonna happen. EG Machine FTW I don't have a problem with the brackets not taking teams into account but I would like to see some Team tournaments. | ||
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Nayl
Canada413 Posts
On November 07 2010 07:25 sely wrote: Is potentially facing a teammate in the third round of a tournament really that unlucky? There are like 7 EG players in this tourney, and a bunch of Liquid, Root, etc., when it is acceptable for two players on the same team to face each other? Ro8? Ro4? Finals? If you care about the integrity of this or any other tournament than team affiliations should NEVER influence seeding. Invitational tourneys may be an exception. I am really surprised that so many people seem outraged about teammates facing each other. Congrats to Machine however for doing so well to this point. read the thread? hes unlucky because he faced incontrol early on for the past 2 MLGs as well. | ||
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SlapMySalami
United States1060 Posts
incontrol raging and machine like huhhuhuhuhu edit: apparently 5 other people have my same idea =D | ||
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eksert
France656 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Some person i know can say It's a good skill toi be a top 3 zerg in NA:D | ||
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IamTheWhiteGuy
United States93 Posts
On November 06 2010 10:31 Whiladan wrote: Update 2: Machine beats iNControL and SeleCT 2:0, looks like he took all points out of LCK and into STR when he made his character. I almost pissed my pants laughing when I read this. | ||
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SilverPotato
United States560 Posts
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CoMMoDuS
Germany507 Posts
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
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BrodiaQ
United States892 Posts
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Aegeis
United States1619 Posts
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monx
Canada1400 Posts
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Sillylaughs
Canada198 Posts
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Djeez
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SiguR
Canada2039 Posts
On November 07 2010 04:18 Phrost wrote: So clearly what needs to happen is machine needs to beat incontrol and then he will be unstoppable. Nostradamus much? | ||
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Noev
United States1105 Posts
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Zeroes
United States1102 Posts
OMG I JUST FOUND OUT MACHINE IS OWNING UP THE WINNERS BRACKET HOLY SHEIEET Goooo Machine!!!! This should now become the machine fan club thread btw | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
Best of luck to him, hope to see him in the finals. Jinro vs. Machine finals. Calling it. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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Karliath
United States2214 Posts
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netherDrake
Singapore1831 Posts
On November 07 2010 12:26 NuKedUFirst wrote: For machine to be confirmed as unlucky he sure is rocking the brackets. Best of luck to him, hope to see him in the finals. Jinro vs. Machine finals. Calling it. A battle of two unlucky players, Jinro not qualifying for GSL twice and Machine not having the best of luck in tournaments. IMO they deserve this, both players have improved a lot since the start of SC2 and I can see both doing well in Korea now. Still I think Select or Ret will take the tourney, they are the strongest players left. | ||
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Whiladan
United States463 Posts
On November 06 2010 23:57 zerotol wrote: The problem lies in the fact that Machine as a top player is mediocre. If he isn't even good enough to beat Incontrol, who is mediocre too, he won't get anywhere. This is not intended as a flame but just stating the facts derived from tournament results. Top Americas : Idra,Huk,Select Sub-Top: Kiwikaki,Fenix,Qxc Medium-Top:EG members Care to retract? | ||
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DminusTerran
Canada1337 Posts
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
Seriously he should. The game is so new atm that you cant definatively rate who is best and who is second best. I really hate how ppl look at a performance in 1 or 2 tournaments and make immediate judgments about how that player compares to everyone else. People were saying that FruitDealer was by far the best zerg but he dropped out of the GSL relatively early and it's clear there are a few Koreans(Zenio, NesTea) are up to his level if not better. I hope there will start being a "regular season" sort of deal among pros where it isn't a tournament format. That would show, to an extent, who really are the best players. | ||
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AyJay
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willeesmalls
United States477 Posts
On November 07 2010 14:08 happyness wrote: Seriously he should. The game is so new atm that you cant definatively rate who is best and who is second best. I really hate how ppl look at a performance in 1 or 2 tournaments and make immediate judgments about how that player compares to everyone else. People were saying that FruitDealer was by far the best zerg but he dropped out of the GSL relatively early and it's clear there are a few Koreans(Zenio, NesTea) are up to his level if not better. I hope there will start being a "regular season" sort of deal among pros where it isn't a tournament format. That would show, to an extent, who really are the best players. Would you disagree with the following phrasing: EG has been extremely underwhelming in many cases given the expectations of greatness that carried over from sc:bw. This is just a fancy way of saying that regardless of how well you think they are capable of playing, they have been mediocre. | ||
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Decko
United States150 Posts
This MLG has been the most fun to watch by far, keep sending more great players, it can only serve to evoke a more dynamic tournament. Also, I'm not surprised by Machine, I've watched all of his as of lately and it's clear he's a great player. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On November 07 2010 11:21 Djeez wrote: Fun fact: I often lift my left arm when playing to try and summon Machine's skills, ever since I saw him play back in the broodwar days. LOL I always used to see him do that too. I saw him do it once on the player cam but i think he was just setting a hotkey to 6. He needs to start doing that again and he'll continue doing great things | ||
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zoOv
Australia269 Posts
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