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happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
November 07 2010 05:08 GMT
#181
On November 07 2010 13:49 Whiladan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2010 23:57 zerotol wrote:
The problem lies in the fact that Machine as a top player is mediocre. If he isn't even good enough to beat Incontrol, who is mediocre too, he won't get anywhere.

This is not intended as a flame but just stating the facts derived from tournament results.

Top Americas : Idra,Huk,Select
Sub-Top: Kiwikaki,Fenix,Qxc
Medium-Top:EG members



Care to retract?


Seriously he should.

The game is so new atm that you cant definatively rate who is best and who is second best. I really hate how ppl look at a performance in 1 or 2 tournaments and make immediate judgments about how that player compares to everyone else. People were saying that FruitDealer was by far the best zerg but he dropped out of the GSL relatively early and it's clear there are a few Koreans(Zenio, NesTea) are up to his level if not better.

I hope there will start being a "regular season" sort of deal among pros where it isn't a tournament format. That would show, to an extent, who really are the best players.
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
November 07 2010 06:38 GMT
#182
Idra confirmed to be unluckier
willeesmalls
Profile Joined March 2010
United States477 Posts
November 07 2010 07:53 GMT
#183
On November 07 2010 14:08 happyness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 13:49 Whiladan wrote:
On November 06 2010 23:57 zerotol wrote:
The problem lies in the fact that Machine as a top player is mediocre. If he isn't even good enough to beat Incontrol, who is mediocre too, he won't get anywhere.

This is not intended as a flame but just stating the facts derived from tournament results.

Top Americas : Idra,Huk,Select
Sub-Top: Kiwikaki,Fenix,Qxc
Medium-Top:EG members



Care to retract?


Seriously he should.

The game is so new atm that you cant definatively rate who is best and who is second best. I really hate how ppl look at a performance in 1 or 2 tournaments and make immediate judgments about how that player compares to everyone else. People were saying that FruitDealer was by far the best zerg but he dropped out of the GSL relatively early and it's clear there are a few Koreans(Zenio, NesTea) are up to his level if not better.

I hope there will start being a "regular season" sort of deal among pros where it isn't a tournament format. That would show, to an extent, who really are the best players.


Would you disagree with the following phrasing:
EG has been extremely underwhelming in many cases given the expectations of greatness that carried over from sc:bw.

This is just a fancy way of saying that regardless of how well you think they are capable of playing, they have been mediocre.
Decko
Profile Joined May 2010
United States150 Posts
November 07 2010 07:56 GMT
#184
It's too difficult to say who's the best Starcraft 2 player at this point. After seeing what's happening in this tournament, and what has happened in GSL 2, they're all top players. I feel like if any of them come with the right preparation, mindset, and strategies they could potentially do very well. The results have been similar for some players, but clearly there is quite a bit of parody.

This MLG has been the most fun to watch by far, keep sending more great players, it can only serve to evoke a more dynamic tournament. Also, I'm not surprised by Machine, I've watched all of his as of lately and it's clear he's a great player.
Superman does good, you're doing well.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
November 07 2010 11:20 GMT
#185
On November 07 2010 11:21 Djeez wrote:
Fun fact: I often lift my left arm when playing to try and summon Machine's skills, ever since I saw him play back in the broodwar days.


LOL I always used to see him do that too. I saw him do it once on the player cam but i think he was just setting a hotkey to 6. He needs to start doing that again and he'll continue doing great things
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zoOv
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia269 Posts
November 07 2010 13:16 GMT
#186
Machine on a roll. Good to see a change and his true potential.
Terror Australis :: [TA] :: Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard
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