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universalwill
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States654 Posts
November 02 2010 15:17 GMT
#21
while i agree with everyone who says that a mouse doesn't make a difference between winning and losing, i don't think you should just use a crappy mouse because it makes no difference. get a nice mouse because it's comfortable. don't expect it to win you any games, but do expect to be more comfortable. i upgraded from my old intellimouse to a razer salmosa for that reason.

1000 hz is overkill. a human couldn't be accurate enough to notice the difference between 500hz and 1000hz. i know razer likes to tell us that we need 5600dpi and 2000hz polling speed, but that's just far beyond any speed or accuracy that a human could control.

having spent the greater majority of my life playing quake, i completely agree with turning down settings to reduce visual clutter.

the only thing here that i think is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY, though, is turning off mouse accel. that actually has a huge effect on your play. it's so hard to micro with a completely inconsistent sensitivity.
nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
November 02 2010 15:27 GMT
#22
Lowering ur resolution only makes ur mouse move faster... DPI, less pixels, faster movement, i'ts not "more responsive". The only way you can increase 'responsiveness' is by polling rate (addressed by your first point).
Dont look at the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
Tiri
Profile Joined November 2010
2 Posts
November 02 2010 15:30 GMT
#23

SlayerS_BoxeR still plays with a ball mouse...
ZappaSC
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark215 Posts
November 02 2010 15:31 GMT
#24
Tiri -> no longer according to tastosis during todays GSL
Solis_Fonte
Profile Joined February 2010
63 Posts
November 02 2010 15:31 GMT
#25
On November 03 2010 00:30 Tiri wrote:

SlayerS_BoxeR still plays with a ball mouse...

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Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 15:37:24
November 02 2010 15:35 GMT
#26
Lowering your resolution is not recommended as it actually decreases the amount of visible area you have. Well actually thats if you change the aspect ratio from 16: 9. So if you were to decrease it to 1280x720 you would keep the same aspect ratio, and that would be OK. But don't go to 1280x1024 or anything like that or you will lose visibility.
"Sentry imba! You see? YOU SEE??!!" - Sen | "Marauder die die!" - oGsMC | "Oh my god, she texted me back!" - Day[9]
Tiri
Profile Joined November 2010
2 Posts
November 02 2010 15:38 GMT
#27
my humble apologies.

Anyway my point is still that I find it difficult to believe that the gsl allows the players to overclock the usb port on their PCs in the studio .
Otherwise just make yourself comfortable with the equipment but don't break your head over such things you can't adjust in 10 minutes on any PC.

2 cent

cu
TwentyAPM
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17 Posts
November 02 2010 15:44 GMT
#28
Will these changes make you better? probably not...
Will they make you worse? probably not...

I personally feel like the higher rez is more helpful in RTS, the minimap is the least of most peoples problems. I'd rather be able to see more going on at once than a blown up mini map.

I'm a competitive fast paced FPS player (quake/unreal) and I feel there is no downside to having the mouse settings in RTS either. Does it help me? not much... but having the same mouse responsiveness through all games I play helps. If all you play is SC2 it won't make a big difference but it also won't hurt you.

The refresh rate can help, but you're better getting a monitor to run higher refresh at high rez than setting your resolution down in RTS. I play all competitive FPS at 800x600 as many "pros" do, but RTS the advantage gained by seeing more is helpful.

The mouse feeling more responsive is nothing more than lowering resolution changes sensitivity in game.

I'm not going to open up my opinion on mouse settings in windows/drivers/fixes/games as that is too much to discuss and will of course have 50 of the next 60 posters give their opinion instead.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
November 02 2010 15:51 GMT
#29
I would say setting the settings on your mouse to something that is comfortable is the best step. Overclocking a USB port is the extreme. I have a "RTS" mouse and a regular mouse I use for everything else. They both have independent settings so the RTS mouse suits my style more for RTS games while the other mouse is just setup for comfort in webbrowsing and stuff.

Each to their own though.
Brood War forever!
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
November 02 2010 15:56 GMT
#30
good luck trying to overclock a usb on a tournament machine
FlashDave.999 aka Star
Sanasante
Profile Joined March 2010
United States321 Posts
November 02 2010 16:27 GMT
#31
On November 03 2010 00:56 aka_star wrote:
good luck trying to overclock a usb on a tournament machine


Good thing currently most tournaments allow you to bring your own computer. Some of the tournament machines already have these things adjusted as well as some mice come pre-programmed to increase the polling speed to 500hz.
It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light
cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
November 02 2010 16:34 GMT
#32
On November 02 2010 23:29 Sanasante wrote:
1. Overclocking your USB port
Seriously?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Nazarid
Profile Joined February 2010
United States445 Posts
November 02 2010 16:54 GMT
#33
On November 02 2010 23:33 Widar wrote:
Seems a bit over the top tbh.


Not really a simple glitch in a control during a game can cost you money in these large tourneys why take the risk, when it takes you 30 seconds to prepare your stuff for optimal use in a pro match setting
Randomize the world, and Life shall be given.
Nazarid
Profile Joined February 2010
United States445 Posts
November 02 2010 16:58 GMT
#34
On November 03 2010 00:38 Tiri wrote:
my humble apologies.

Anyway my point is still that I find it difficult to believe that the gsl allows the players to overclock the usb port on their PCs in the studio .
Otherwise just make yourself comfortable with the equipment but don't break your head over such things you can't adjust in 10 minutes on any PC.

2 cent

cu


they have techs that do it for them in these large tournaments trust me if they play the game with specific settings they will sit down in a booth and GET those exact settings/drivers etc before their game starts.... there is no reason not to allow this and i would laugh at some ones face if they told me im not allowed to set up my settings before i play a tourny with money on the line.. i would be like should i just bring my own computer then? so i can play at 100% instead of 95%?
Randomize the world, and Life shall be given.
koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
November 02 2010 17:51 GMT
#35
I would assume native resolution is best for the majority of LCD users. Otherwise ur screen becomes blurry or rather out of focus which, atleast to me, is straining for the eyes.
He wears a mask so when he dogs his face / Each and every race could absorb the bass /// ST_Life
koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
November 02 2010 17:53 GMT
#36
On November 03 2010 00:17 universalwill wrote:
while i agree with everyone who says that a mouse doesn't make a difference between winning and losing, i don't think you should just use a crappy mouse because it makes no difference. get a nice mouse because it's comfortable. don't expect it to win you any games, but do expect to be more comfortable. i upgraded from my old intellimouse to a razer salmosa for that reason.

1000 hz is overkill. a human couldn't be accurate enough to notice the difference between 500hz and 1000hz. i know razer likes to tell us that we need 5600dpi and 2000hz polling speed, but that's just far beyond any speed or accuracy that a human could control.

having spent the greater majority of my life playing quake, i completely agree with turning down settings to reduce visual clutter.

the only thing here that i think is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY, though, is turning off mouse accel. that actually has a huge effect on your play. it's so hard to micro with a completely inconsistent sensitivity.


I remember when I was first starting to learn SC:BW, and this dude I looked up to who was pretty good told me I needed to have 'fast mouse,' so I jacked it up to max in windows and turned on accel
He wears a mask so when he dogs his face / Each and every race could absorb the bass /// ST_Life
Rokit5
Profile Joined April 2010
236 Posts
November 02 2010 17:57 GMT
#37
Thanks. Bookmarked!
SovSov
Profile Joined September 2010
United States755 Posts
November 02 2010 18:00 GMT
#38
So in pro StarCraft booths do they allow you to overclock your mouse and turn off pointer acelleration?
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
November 02 2010 18:03 GMT
#39
Wow, some of you guys havent turned off mouse acceleration? Wtf... How do you play like that? In RTS, that severely hurts accuracy.
Seide
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States831 Posts
November 02 2010 18:06 GMT
#40
On November 03 2010 03:00 SovSov wrote:
So in pro StarCraft booths do they allow you to overclock your mouse and turn off pointer acelleration?

Pointer accel you can play with all you want. As far as overclocking USB port, i do not know.

On November 03 2010 03:03 Mohdoo wrote:
Wow, some of you guys havent turned off mouse acceleration? Wtf... How do you play like that? In RTS, that severely hurts accuracy.

I use to play with it on before switching, I didn't feel it was that bad at the time as I was used to it. But it was definately better once i got used to it being off.

Good guide for people who care though. USB port might be a bit over the top, and reducing screen res might be personal preference, but the rest is solid advice for a newbie.
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