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Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
November 30 2010 11:54 GMT
#101
Heck, you don't even really have to worry about the annoying part too much when you take in to consideration the bigger entities. Most of them, such as publishers, may only be approached once, and if you must go in for a second try it'll likely be someone else receiving it. If you contact the right person in the first place and sell yourself well -- "this is the audience, and the game is only a few months old; look at what's already thriving in Korea" -- then you could already be in to negotiations.

Also, see if you can get a hold of guys like Husky. If you can actually grab his attention, I'm sure a quality presentation would elate him and have the Huskateers all over your project.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
December 03 2010 15:28 GMT
#102
So, I just put together a little first draft and we're easily looking nice and thick. I'm going to finalize a price in the next couple of days as well as a cover. Covers are hard! heh. If you want to get something in, do it soon. I'm going to be making moves as soon as the December 7th deadline hits, quite possibly even sooner.

What do you guys think of names?

'the starcraft bible' was nice for a forum thread but im not sure it has the umph that i want once it goes on sale. it sounds too esoteric (SC history is obviously a big part of this but it covers a wide bunch of video game history and culture), too unserious and just not that awesome to my ears.

alternatives suggested to me so far are all, imo, not much better: the history of starcraft, starcraft: a history, the legend of starcraft. similarly boring for me. i like 'explosions of pixels' or some other variant of this sentence: 'Who knew that explosions of pixels could inspire?' but maybe it's a mouthful, maybe it's cheesy, maybe it's super vague

two other ideas ive written down and quickly gotten over during the last month: the game of awe, the book of genesis

i dunno. i'm probably going to call it 'explosions of pixels' or near to that and stick the starcraft bible in there as a subtitle or something. unless someone gives me a good idea. help!
:O
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
December 03 2010 16:09 GMT
#103
I was thinking a memorable quote from the game as a title. I'm not sure if Blizzard's okay with that, but I can't imagine they'd have intellectual property rights for every unit's quotes. Something to check up on.

Something like "Power Overwhelming".
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 18:55:33
December 03 2010 18:54 GMT
#104
A Song of Rice and Wires

don't hate. other suggestions i've gotten:

Big Game Hunters: The Rise of Starcraft and the International Progaming Scene
Power Overwhelming (oh hey you said it too! :D)
GLHF - The complete and authoritative guide to Starcraft's rise as the #1 e-Sport
decline and fall of the roman empire
from hehe to keke: ggkkthxbai

yeahhhhh definitely makin' progress
:O
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
December 03 2010 19:12 GMT
#105
This thread needs more love <3
I read your original thread Chobopeon, and even though I wasnt too involved in the Starcraft 1 community, I absolutely loved it.
Really well done, and your writing skills are far more impressive than anything I could even imagine producing ^_^
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
IamOBESE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States134 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 23:15:33
December 03 2010 23:15 GMT
#106
I still like "The Starcraft Bible" as a title. It's simple, and it is clear what the book is about. Will be easier to market that way.

Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17251 Posts
December 03 2010 23:35 GMT
#107
Haha, that date extension made me laugh. Corresponds with the release of a certain other Blizzard product...
twitch.tv/cratonz
Sandrosuperstar
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden525 Posts
December 03 2010 23:58 GMT
#108
will buy this when produced :D, personally i liked both explosions of pixels and power overwhelming, just add a sub title that says book of starcraft or smt
I'm homo for Lomo, gay for GGplay, but at the end of the day I put my dong in Lee Jaedong
KDraconis
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2 Posts
December 04 2010 01:16 GMT
#109
I think "Who knew explosions of pixels could inspire?" would make a great tagline no matter what the title is: "The StarCraft Bible - Who knew explosions of pixels could inspire?"

A cheesy title I thought of was "Crafting the Stars" which would make it clear enough that the book was about StarCraft, and yet be general enough to sound like other things; "Crafting the Stars" sounds like a metaphor for "creating the pros", "making the dreams", and "forming the inspiration", to name a few.

Looking forward to the book, definitely purchasing and referring to friends when it's out.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
December 04 2010 02:25 GMT
#110
Oh man, I'm so excited!!! ^_^ I wish I could've seen this post earlier though so I could've submitted something. Too late now I guess, lol.
darkness overpowering
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
December 04 2010 02:30 GMT
#111
Nice will have to buy it to help support you. Great idea.
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 19:46:49
December 04 2010 19:46 GMT
#112
so, at first i was like 'we're almost done, maybe i can push up the date and just get it on sale asap.' but then elky was all 'let's talk about the book' and grrr.... was all 'what's up? let's talk.' and i was all :O so that's where we're at right now. me talking to the people i spent my childhood watching and learning what geek chills are with a permanent ' :O ' on my face. the last two (hopeful) contributors are looking to make the late release date worthwhile. nothing is final but i think a little 'fuck yeah' is in order.

i promise my writing is slightly better in the book

meanwhile im starting to put it all together and it's starting to look like a monster. im really excited.

in other news: fuck you, title. i wish i didn't need you. my mind changes every day. we'll figure it out!
:O
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 20:50:13
December 04 2010 20:36 GMT
#113
actually, here you go:

The release is approaching quite quickly. I want to get an incomplete and not final list of people involved cause what the hell, let’s get a little hype for you guys.

The plan is to have the following people's work or voice (via interview or otherwise) in the book. Many of the interviews are recent but a number were interviewed by me over the course of the last year and will be included. This list is not complete, this list is not final and it is subject to change. That said, I think it’s gonna be pretty damn close to what you end up seeing.

Guillaume “Grrrr…” Patry, the most successful non-Korean of all time. One of the original greats.
Bertrand “ElkY” Grospellier, the great French hope and a legend.
Christopher “Pillars” Page, an old pro, a great player and (I think) the original lead Protoss designer for StarCraft 2.
Peter “Legionnaire” Neate, the Australian hero.
Greg “IdrA” Fields, the last super-villain of Brood War and the first of StarCraft 2.
Sean “Day9″ Plott, one of the most beloved commentators of all time.
Dan “Artosis” Stemkoski, one of the must successful American gamers and one of the most successful commentator of all time.
ilnp aka dudey of old-school fame, a great help throughout and a prolific old-school shit talker and occasional center of scandal.
Marcus “djWheat” Graham, the black belt of e-sport.
Joseph “Ret” de Kroon, the current and perennial professional Zerg powerhouse.
Arrian, one of the unsung heroes of the TL writing staff.
Xxio, another great talent making TL what it is.
blid, the torch carrier for the Warcraft 2 community, always willing to illuminate the old game.
Victor “Nazgul” Goossens, the old pro, a brain behind Liquid and the man in the moon.
Cedstick, a contributing photographer. Gave us a great shot, a window into this world.
Stefan “MorroW” Andersson, the Swedish Terran with an eye on Seoul.
KDraconis, the StarCraft: Legacy writer with unique insight into Korea.
Captain Peabody, the TL poster and fiction writer.
Alex “Ares” Dellinger, the TL poster and pro-gamer biographer.
Leandro Gobbo, who has kindly offered to help in translation duties for this mammoth project.
Wayne “d22-soso” Chiang, the old school gamer with great insight into the beginnings of the scene.
Jay “gadianton” Severson, soso’s right hand man and another great source of insight into StarCraft antiquity.
prodiG, the ICCup map-maker.
emythrel, a man with talent for teaching.

For some context, the original post has the contribution of Pillars and ilnp and .. that's it, as far as I can recall. So I've expanded it a little bit.

Once again, this is NOT COMPLETE (if you contributed and are not on here, have no fear: you will get credit and major thanks! ) and NOT FINAL (I’ll have a final list closer to release). Nor is it in any particular order. Everyone here helped me out in one way or another, some in huge ways and some with just a nudge in the right direction.

Did I mention that's not final? Did I mention that's not all? Good. But it's a start and I hope you like it.
:O
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
December 04 2010 20:47 GMT
#114
I'd suggest titling it Pure Win, but even that doesn't cover the magnitude of amazing starcraft is
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Daria
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia500 Posts
December 04 2010 21:19 GMT
#115
Great to see Legionnaire ther :D
daria[e]
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
December 06 2010 00:55 GMT
#116
Very interesting.. I'm really curious to see how this project works out.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 06 2010 01:02 GMT
#117
When is it going to be out?(will it be out by christmas?)
Where can we find it?
Cost?

What have you decided the title is? I was thinking a combination of just like Starcraft: Pixels that inspire because just Pixels that inspire is a bit lame, but then you add "Starcraft" and its epic.
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
December 06 2010 09:31 GMT
#118
barring something major, it will be out by christmas. you will be able to find it on amazon as well as perhaps a few physical locations. venturing a pretty well educated guess, it will cost between 9.99 and 19.99 (probably ending up something like 14.99) because a large book with color pictures is somewhat costly to produce, otherwise id make it cheaper. the ebook will be a bit cheaper of course.

the title will probably end up being The StarCraft Bible because at this point it is recognized and gets the point across. A nice subtitle may be in there also as people have suggested.

i'm trying to wrap up some major loose ends right now, thats why its not out. theres a chance that i can add some pretty big names to that list of contributors but that takes time.

so, im moving as quickly as i can. i realize people are buying for christmas right now and im missing out on that but im trying to make a definitive history of the game and culture, not rush the book and get a couple of extra sales. when people finally receive their copy, i want them to be really, really pleased.

ill keep everyone updated as things progress!
:O
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
December 06 2010 09:48 GMT
#119
I would love to have this as a Christmas present!

I think having the past history of StarCraft being in such an accessible form is extremely vital for it to be appreciated better by the mainstream in its future history. I really enjoyed reading all the posts detailing all the triumphs and dramas throughout its history, and I think recognition of even the dirtiest of dramas is important in order for the public to recognize that StarCraft is a legitimate e-sport and not just another old game.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
December 06 2010 09:48 GMT
#120
Hey, my ego forgot to tell you my full name XD Cedric Cook, for what it's worth. Also, I hope these big names are a result of you marketing yourself like I said, so I can say, "told you so!" hahah.

See if you get in touch with Hwanni through Artosis, or Spunky, or another middle man, and get some input from the likes of The Emperor, The Tyrant and the likes. Need some Korean representation.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
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