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chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
January 05 2011 21:29 GMT
#221
On January 06 2011 06:23 Oasx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 04:23 chobopeon wrote:
yeah. hardcover is just very expensive. it's possible but i wouldn't bet on it

By the way, it is up on Amazon finally!


I like your support of Dan Carlin


I'm not sure how you saw that I like his podcast but yes, I do haha
:O
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 21:35:56
January 05 2011 21:35 GMT
#222
Now, not that I don't support this book and think it's awesome, but something just irks me when I see a review of the physical version saying they got this book as a gift, when it is quite unlikely to have been received, let alone read, the book yet. Come on, man, be honest in your review, at least. It's a good book, so there's no reason to lie, Mr. Wilson.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
January 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#223
On January 06 2011 06:35 Cedstick wrote:
Now, not that I don't support this book and think it's awesome, but something just irks me when I see a review of the physical version saying they got this book as a gift, when it is quite unlikely to have been received, let alone read, the book yet. Come on, man, be honest in your review, at least. It's a good book, so there's no reason to lie, Mr. Wilson.


Heh, someone in another forum I visit wanted to help me out and so he wrote that review. Obviously he didn't get it as a gift or anything like that. I think he may have read it, or most of it, but I'm not sure. Oh well, he had good intentions! I look forward to seeing some real reviews up there.
:O
Oasx
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark72 Posts
January 06 2011 15:29 GMT
#224
On January 06 2011 06:29 chobopeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 06:23 Oasx wrote:
On January 06 2011 04:23 chobopeon wrote:
yeah. hardcover is just very expensive. it's possible but i wouldn't bet on it

By the way, it is up on Amazon finally!


I like your support of Dan Carlin


I'm not sure how you saw that I like his podcast but yes, I do haha


Oh, i thought you did that on purpose Your link is : http://www.amazon.com/dp/1456489771/?tag=dancarlincom-20 which means that everytime someone buys an item on amazon via that, the podcast gets a few bucks without the price being any higher.
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
January 06 2011 22:16 GMT
#225
On January 07 2011 00:29 Oasx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 06:29 chobopeon wrote:
On January 06 2011 06:23 Oasx wrote:
On January 06 2011 04:23 chobopeon wrote:
yeah. hardcover is just very expensive. it's possible but i wouldn't bet on it

By the way, it is up on Amazon finally!


I like your support of Dan Carlin


I'm not sure how you saw that I like his podcast but yes, I do haha


Oh, i thought you did that on purpose Your link is : http://www.amazon.com/dp/1456489771/?tag=dancarlincom-20 which means that everytime someone buys an item on amazon via that, the podcast gets a few bucks without the price being any higher.


where is that link?
:O
Renoir_scII
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada112 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 03:19:07
January 22 2011 19:33 GMT
#226
Ummm...

Just stayed up all night reading this.
Was this book even edited?
Hmm...

Sorry i'm really tired but the book needs serious polish. On almost every single page there is either a grammar error, a typo, or an awkwardly phrased sentence. Really basic stuff too, basic enough that spell-check would detect it. The formatting is very... unorganized. The lack of page numbers and the table of contents making no sense are pretty good examples of this. Not following a consistent style guide is something I shouldn't be seeing in a published book.

I don't know man. I like a lot of what you've written but it really needs a lot more work. I can't help but feel that i've bought a manuscript.

PS whoever Tom Hackleman is, your section was beautiful, definitely the highlight of the book IMO.

EDIT: I was up for about 27 hours at this point and being kind of harsh and definitely exaggerating with this a bit. Most pages are probably fine but there are enough errors to make it a serious detraction, and what I said about the formatting still holds true I feel. The inconsistency with regards to following a style guide is a big one for me as well and makes it feel much more amateurish than it deserves.
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
January 22 2011 20:10 GMT
#227
On January 23 2011 04:33 Renoir_scII wrote:
Ummm...

Just stayed up all night reading this.
Was this book even edited?
Hmm...

Sorry i'm really tired but the book needs serious polish. On almost every single page there is either a grammar error, a typo, or an awkwardly phrased sentence. Really basic stuff too, basic enough that spell-check would detect it. The formatting is very... unorganized. The lack of page numbers and the table of contents making no sense are pretty good examples of this. Not following a consistent style guide is something I shouldn't be seeing in a published book.

I don't know man. I like a lot of what you've written but it really needs a lot more work. I can't help but feel that i've bought a manuscript.

PS whoever Tom Hackleman is, your section was beautiful, definitely the highlight of the book IMO.

Could you post all the pages of it somewhere? That would allow him to find all the mistakes quicker
Year 2500 Greater Israel ( Bahrain, Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Gaza Strip, West Bank, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen )
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
January 22 2011 22:00 GMT
#228
On January 23 2011 05:10 nalgene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 04:33 Renoir_scII wrote:
Ummm...

Just stayed up all night reading this.
Was this book even edited?
Hmm...

Sorry i'm really tired but the book needs serious polish. On almost every single page there is either a grammar error, a typo, or an awkwardly phrased sentence. Really basic stuff too, basic enough that spell-check would detect it. The formatting is very... unorganized. The lack of page numbers and the table of contents making no sense are pretty good examples of this. Not following a consistent style guide is something I shouldn't be seeing in a published book.

I don't know man. I like a lot of what you've written but it really needs a lot more work. I can't help but feel that i've bought a manuscript.

PS whoever Tom Hackleman is, your section was beautiful, definitely the highlight of the book IMO.

Could you post all the pages of it somewhere? That would allow him to find all the mistakes quicker


I was thinking the same. The book is fine but there are some problems with the polish. I was going to write down every little mistake to help, but there are no page numbers !!!!
We talkin about PRACTICE
Ner0
Profile Joined July 2008
United States131 Posts
January 22 2011 22:18 GMT
#229
I was panicked about seeing it out of stock!

Will the second edition be adding page numbers and editing up the work?
I'm looking forward to spreading this around to people who have zero insight on esports and I'd love to have a professional-ish copy.
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-22 22:33:04
January 22 2011 22:19 GMT
#230
MODS: please delete, i probably shouldn't be talking about this
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
January 22 2011 22:29 GMT
#231
cooler than the Bread Bible.

How would editing work though? All future copies printed will reflect changes, or is it somehow set up to print a copy each time someone buys one so changes go in pretty much immediately?
Joroth
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States318 Posts
January 23 2011 01:26 GMT
#232
Hmm. Page numbers seem kind of like a need. But I'm looking forward to getting my own copy soon. I think every starcraft fan or player needs to read this it's good to read the history.
"you have buildings that are better than my race go fuck yourself" -IdrA
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
January 23 2011 18:19 GMT
#233
On January 23 2011 04:33 Renoir_scII wrote:


I really appreciate the feedback.

Basically, you're right. The book needs to be worked on. I'm well aware of it, I've learned a lot from the process of putting this out and the feedback I've received. I know this is of little comfort to you since you've already purchased a copy but we take that up in PMs if you'd like to continue to talk about that.

Anyway, yeah, I think you're right. I'm working on it. If/when I have another project, I'm going to have a hired team of professionals help me bring it to reality. When I have a corrected/updated edition (within a few weeks), I'd be happy to provide you/other customers with a version of it for free.
:O
Innervision
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium8 Posts
January 23 2011 20:15 GMT
#234
When will there be some new copies?
Live.Love.Learn.
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
January 23 2011 20:18 GMT
#235
On January 24 2011 05:15 Innervision wrote:
When will there be some new copies?

You can buy a copy here now and it should be up on Amazon again within a few days.
:O
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
January 31 2011 18:19 GMT
#236
need moar copys lol! cant wait for my book to come
whatthefat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States918 Posts
January 31 2011 18:25 GMT
#237
On January 23 2011 07:00 mprs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 05:10 nalgene wrote:
On January 23 2011 04:33 Renoir_scII wrote:
Ummm...

Just stayed up all night reading this.
Was this book even edited?
Hmm...

Sorry i'm really tired but the book needs serious polish. On almost every single page there is either a grammar error, a typo, or an awkwardly phrased sentence. Really basic stuff too, basic enough that spell-check would detect it. The formatting is very... unorganized. The lack of page numbers and the table of contents making no sense are pretty good examples of this. Not following a consistent style guide is something I shouldn't be seeing in a published book.

I don't know man. I like a lot of what you've written but it really needs a lot more work. I can't help but feel that i've bought a manuscript.

PS whoever Tom Hackleman is, your section was beautiful, definitely the highlight of the book IMO.

Could you post all the pages of it somewhere? That would allow him to find all the mistakes quicker


I was thinking the same. The book is fine but there are some problems with the polish. I was going to write down every little mistake to help, but there are no page numbers !!!!


Hmm, that's enough to put me off buying tbh. It's a little disappointing to hear that such an amazing project hasn't received basic editing.
SlayerS_BoxeR: "I always feel sorry towards Greg (Grack?) T_T"
Joroth
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States318 Posts
January 31 2011 21:05 GMT
#238
Since this book is done are we going to see a return of sc center? :DD:D:D:D
"you have buildings that are better than my race go fuck yourself" -IdrA
GeneralissimoNero
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-02 20:39:14
February 02 2011 20:37 GMT
#239
On January 23 2011 04:33 Renoir_scII wrote:
Ummm...

Just stayed up all night reading this.
Was this book even edited?
Hmm...

Sorry i'm really tired but the book needs serious polish. On almost every single page there is either a grammar error, a typo, or an awkwardly phrased sentence. Really basic stuff too, basic enough that spell-check would detect it. The formatting is very... unorganized. The lack of page numbers and the table of contents making no sense are pretty good examples of this. Not following a consistent style guide is something I shouldn't be seeing in a published book.

I don't know man. I like a lot of what you've written but it really needs a lot more work. I can't help but feel that i've bought a manuscript.

PS whoever Tom Hackleman is, your section was beautiful, definitely the highlight of the book IMO.

EDIT: I was up for about 27 hours at this point and being kind of harsh and definitely exaggerating with this a bit. Most pages are probably fine but there are enough errors to make it a serious detraction, and what I said about the formatting still holds true I feel. The inconsistency with regards to following a style guide is a big one for me as well and makes it feel much more amateurish than it deserves.


I couldn't agree more. I love the topic, but I feel that one simple proof read could have made this book a lot cleaner. I read the entire thing, and I have to say, I was looking for a large history of the Starcraft e-sport. Having only 1 full page for Boxer was extremely short. Most of the bonjwa (besides Savior) received only a page of brief history. Also, some articles published near the end were just poor and had no place in the book. The second to last article after a very well written part was titled "an analysis of By.Snow's play", and it was this awful 2 page thing that compared him to other 2nd tier protoss.

That being said, while the book needs a lot of improvements, I enjoyed your writing style very much. It was very accessible and made the book a nice read. If you ever decided to publish another book about Starcraft I would pick that one up just as fast. I'm just disappointed that the errors seem to outweigh the positives.
I will cheer for a Slayers Terran over any other player.
Ner0
Profile Joined July 2008
United States131 Posts
April 14 2011 10:34 GMT
#240
Are there any plans for a revised and more edited second edition?

As said before I'd love to pass this around to people who don't know about this, having it be jsut that more professional would be nice.
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