On October 15 2010 04:43 YourMom wrote:
How the hell am I supposed to counter Battlecruisers with SCV's repairing now ???

I bet you can't even kill a single Turret FFS.

what changned about the scv and bc?? am i missing somehting?

Raiznhell

Canada786 Posts

October 14 2010 19:47 GMT

#642

On October 15 2010 04:42 bokeevboke wrote:

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Don't think so. Immortals hardcounter every factory unit.

mass immortal against mass mech actually loses. Immortals may hard counter a tank on it's own but you get tanks siege, hellions covering and thors in the back (also throw in their 250 MM cannons) and you will crush a massed immortal army. i think mech will be slightly more viable for stubborn mech players but in the end marauders are just way too easy to use and i expect we wont be seeing any pros go mech vs protoss anytime soon.

Payout

45 Posts

October 14 2010 19:48 GMT

#643

On October 15 2010 04:45 Yaotzin wrote:

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BBS was too strong because of orbital. The race got re-designed, such is life.

not rly, it was a team vs team problem not 1v1

setzer

United States3284 Posts

October 14 2010 19:48 GMT

#644

I give a lot of respect to Blizzard for getting this patch out before the start of GSLS2. As a zerg player, while I love the roach range increase, I am overjoyed over the increase to building hp. Damn marauder drops!

theqat

United States2856 Posts

October 14 2010 19:48 GMT

#645

Immortals don't counter Thors with 250mm off-cooldown since 250mm isn't impacted by Hardened Shields. TvP just got a lot more interesting late-game which I think is what people had been asking for. P still needs help early-mid though

DoubleReed

United States4130 Posts

October 14 2010 19:49 GMT

#646

Anyone else find it a little strange that 1.1.2 has more balance changes and more significant balance changes than 1.1?

I wonder about Void Rays... maybe they won't be so absurdly punishing now... does anyone know if 1 Queen > 1 Void Ray with this? Is it just me or is that a pretty big beating to void rays??

And yet somehow...SOMEHOW they did not change the repair mechanic. SERIOUSLY?!

kioskmongo

Sweden33 Posts

October 14 2010 19:49 GMT

#647

On October 15 2010 04:41 LiquidOreo wrote:
They patch this game way to fast....Before I can even get use to the changes there all ready changed...that's the problem they have....just give people time to figure out how to play save a ton of time...

It's going to be like this for a long time. Brood War balance was awful for the longest time. It's going to take a lot of tweaking to get the perfect balance like we see in BW now. Assuming they add new units with Heart of the Swarm and the toss expansion, we're looking at years of constant patches, I doubt this will be the most game changing patch ever.

Anzat

United States90 Posts

October 14 2010 19:49 GMT

#648

Very nice patch. I like the whole thing. However, they still didn't fix the main problem with zerg, which is our inability to scout behind a wall after drone and before T2 air. Assuming the opponent realizes there's a "p" on his keyboard, one or two marines/stalkers can totally shut zerg out of any information about what's coming. We have to sit there quietly macroing/teching with no idea when they'll push out, or with what.

tyrless

United States485 Posts

October 14 2010 19:49 GMT

#649

Blizzard is really unbalancing the high-level play with these changes catered to the gold leaguers. The deport req is an absolutely horrible change because it neuters the differentiation between races, and is yet another step towards limiting playstyle options. The void ray nerf is just so unneeded it's baffling who is coming up with these changes. Roach change is another limp attempt at buffing zerg, roach was a boring unit before and it's even more boring now, just another variant of the tier 1.5 ranged unit that all the races have.

FrostedMiniWeet

United States636 Posts

October 14 2010 19:49 GMT

#650

On October 15 2010 04:37 Silvanel wrote:
-Barracks requirement changed from Command Center to Supply Depot.

I am switching to zerg......................
Seriously WTF that makes no sense to me....

Good, maybe we will finally have some diversity in the game now. The lack of Zergs playing this game is just sad. Zerg will still require more APM and game sense to play than any other race however, so don't think its all rainbows and sunshine for Zergs now.

noD

2230 Posts

October 14 2010 19:50 GMT

#651

On October 15 2010 04:40 gakkgakk wrote:
Will mech tvp be viable now?

Mech always were viable, but mmm in early game was and is much too strong ...
Now thors are stronger against void ray ...

MaDBread

Germany66 Posts

October 14 2010 19:50 GMT

#652

Wow... they really hate VoidRays

Feedback is nerfed too, I guess they really want Protoss to open every game with a robo.

They could have just made the Twillight Council and the Stargate require the Robo in the first place.

Seneca

United States4 Posts

October 14 2010 19:50 GMT

#653

I logged on to B.net having updated my client to 1.1.2, but whenever I try to join a multiplayer game a window pops up saying I must update to the latest version and re-start the game, so I re-started the game but I'm still having issues.

Anyone else having this problem?

HiHiByeBye

Canada365 Posts

October 14 2010 19:50 GMT

#654

Is the Patch working on NA?

It says i am need to restart SC2 before finding a game but I already downloaded the path.

any1 else have this probelm?

kariido

Saudi Arabia179 Posts

October 14 2010 19:50 GMT

#655

On October 15 2010 04:48 setzer wrote:
I give a lot of respect to Blizzard for getting this patch out before the start of GSLS2. As a zerg player, while I love the roach range increase, I am overjoyed over the increase to building hp. Damn marauder drops!

Instead of fixing the source of the problem they're trying to bandaid it's impact. That isn't how you should go about things.

Kishkumen

United States650 Posts

October 14 2010 19:51 GMT

#656

Blizzard kind of flipping the bird to all the players at MLG DC. Good luck adjusting your strategies to the new patch after 5 hours of practice the night before. At least now anybody who loses can save face by blaming it on being unfamiliar with the new patch.

Sandbox

Canada65 Posts

October 14 2010 19:51 GMT

#657

Why do they ignore the marauder... Come on. And why nerf the void ray? It was perfectly fine the way it was, you just had to scout it properly then they were easy to deal with. I thought only players gold and below had trouble with them... Void rays were good against mass marauders but now it will take longer to kill the marauders and they could just take your base while you blast them.

Philip2110

Scotland798 Posts

October 14 2010 19:52 GMT

#658

Can someone explain what toss does against corrupters. With void ray nerf and stalkers doing low dps and having a massive 1 + (0 to armoured) damage increase per upgrade. Toss can also no longer feedback them to damage them, gonna be fun to be a collosus

megagoten

318 Posts

October 14 2010 19:52 GMT

#659

On October 15 2010 04:50 kariido wrote:

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Instead of fixing the source of the problem they're trying to bandaid it's impact. That isn't how you should go about things.

i guess you're saying they should set marauder damage to building to 2 so that it' no longer possible
because clearly we marauder drops were not stoppable

PangO

Chile1870 Posts

October 14 2010 19:52 GMT

#660

I got thinking, are they ever going to nerf Banshees ?