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Hello I've been having some problems when laddering and would like some input on how other people deal with it.
I'm recently made a come back to rts and while I've been a gamer almost all my life I have this stupid adrenaline rush when laddering. I get the shakes and my hands don't quite move like they're supposed to.Macro goes out the door and all I can barely manage to do is battle micro. When I'm playing vs AI I think I never have this problem at all, or even when I'm playing co-op vs AI.
This never happens when I'm playing sports games, rpg, and fps (weirdly I get more focused in fps don't know why).
I'm thinking of drinking beer before laddering .... any suggestions? 
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Really, the adrenaline factor usually goes down with total games played (though, for bigger games you play you'll find its still there). Just keep on playing, accept that its just a game and your just playing to have fun, and you'll get through it.
Alternatively, you can try to sort of "focus" your adrenaline to drive your play and help you play better - but thats a lot easier said then done.
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I used to get this. Play a few hundred games and it will go away forever, or it did for me.
Also, I find I feel most relaxed when I've got good scouting, because it means I'm not going to be surprised and I know exactly what to do.. prioritizing scouting might help.
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I use to get like this a lot, but its mostly gone now after just playing a lot. Just keep on playing and playing, after a while you might get more relaxed. Also remember, your opponent is not a god and is most likely feeling the exact same way as you =)
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Don't play to win, play to learn. And the more you will play, the less you will be stressed.
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haha adrenaline rush has incorporated my style of living since i played more and more of starcraft 2.
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It'll go away after more games played.
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really just play like normal, cracklings are nowhere as fearsome as they were in BW
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Keep playing and it'll eventually go away or be repressed until the end of the game. The latter happens to me, and its awesome :D
Although, If you lose a game and the adrenaline hits after, you might end up hulk smashing something you shouldn't. Be careful!
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Pump the adrenaline into apm. Become active when you play.. use your mind, you're thoughts.. everything. Dont just hold it in or that how you will become stressed.
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dude, nearly everyone had this probleme, because you cant creat a new smurf account for free and you dont want to destroy your stats..but forget that. Just play much and from game to game it gets easier...Not everyone is a demuslim with 80% stats
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This can happen to me sometimes when i'm playing when stressed / out of focus.
Just try to calm down and put on some music before you start laddering.
Don't play when you have more important shit to do in real life, that is not a good way to get focused.
But I think the key here is really getting the right mental approach to the game:
"It doesn't matter if I lose, I'm playing this game for fun but I will try my hardest to become better. If I lose its not a big deal, its not a big deal if I win either."
Also its just repetition, get used to playing on the ladder alot and the adrenaline feeling goes away pretty quickly.
Playing drunk is obviously not a good way if you actually care about playing well as it drops your mouse/keyboard accuracy and your mind becomes slow and bad at making those key decisions.
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play more. the more you play, the less bad it will get. in the end you will almost miss it.
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I used to get this very badly in important matches (fps player) I remember cal finals years ago where my mouse hand just would not stop shaking. Since then I have completely gotten over it for all forms of competitive gaming. Basically, just play lots of games very seriously and you'll eventually get over it.
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Don't drink beer. It sound like a good idea, but I've tried having some wine before laddering, and yes it slows you down, but it also makes you forget to do simple things like play competently.
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I get this too sometimes and I have over 450 games played. You just need to learn to get into a relaxed mode. Also, like someone mentioned earlier in the thread, play to learn is a good way to remove this.
Oh and one time, I had like 4-5 beers and played phenomenal, it removed all nervousness and played at my best. So probably not the suggested method to removing it, but it does work. 
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Xanax, or any benzos for that matter.
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On October 15 2010 01:35 WhoaDrugs wrote:
Xanax, or any benzos for that matter.
Man playing SC2 benzed is fucking terrible lol. I find that although there is absolutely no adrenaline or anxious feeling, I also never really play focused either. I just don't seem to give a fuck about anything in-game and thus don't really perform. Of course personal experience varies though :p
To OP: Just play more games. This happened to almost everyone at some point. Also enter in some for-fun tournies (there are plenty of them every day in the tourney section here on TL) to get some "pressured" games under your belt. Before you know it, you'll be calm as shit with a gun to your head.
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On October 15 2010 01:13 Zelniq wrote:
really just play like normal, cracklings are nowhere as fearsome as they were in BW
lol I was thinking the same thing
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enjoy the adrenaline. bathe in it. know that your body is preparing you to wrestle with a bear, and embrace the fact. when you become one with your emotions, true enlightenment is at hand.
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Don't try and fight it, just enjoy it, I think it's aweome and leaves you grinning when you win
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Practice strats and be sure of what you execute
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Diazepam with a whiskey chaser.
But seriously I have this same problem, but only when I play 1v1. Custom games or even other ladders have no effect on me whatsoever, but when it's just me and one opponent I start to get really tense and jittery. If I play one 1v1 game and win it, I'm liable to just stop there because I'm too afraid of losing the next one.
I've had this "1v1 Anxiety" with every RTS I've ever played...and that's a long list.
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First of all, never play to just win, play to learn, and learn skills. And to do this, you need to play hundreds of games. Playing hundreds of games will turn your adrenaline level down.
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The more you experience, the more you will be able to focus it onto productive play. Commonly, for newer players, that adrenaline rush is counter productive. Once players because more comfortable with experiencing it, they can utilize it to their advantage.
In short; play more.
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I used to get this when i first started playing brood war when i was winning a game. The most important thing is to think about breathing. You will find that you hold your breath alot. Control your breathing and it helps your control in game. Other than that unfortunately its just something you get over in time. I still get this very occasionally when playing a game on a stream or something, but like i said breath properly and you will be fine.
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Honestly i had this problem and it was super bad at one point.
The biggest thing that helped me out was apm spam at the beginning because it keeps the blood flowing and keeps your focus accentuated.
So try apm spam early and if that doesnt help then try private matches until you overcome your dilemma :-P
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Erm there is no pressure in laddering not like you playing for 10k every game or something...
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On October 15 2010 01:52 Koh wrote:Don't try and fight it, just enjoy it, I think it's awesome and leaves you grinning when you win
This.
If anything, consider the adrenaline to be like a stimpack. Sure, the downside are trembling hands, but in exchange you get an incredible amount of focus which allows you to make decisions before you even think about the problem. Enjoy it and use it; don't fight it.
And like others said, the trembling hands-bit goes away after a while anyway.
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You should probably go outside some. If you're getting an adrenaline rushing from playing starcraft on the internet vs people you've never met before, I think you might need to find some other outlets for excitement. I'm being serious.
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On October 15 2010 01:35 WhoaDrugs wrote:
Xanax, or any benzos for that matter.
any one else notice the irony?
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On October 15 2010 01:06 dekwaz wrote:Hello I've been having some problems when laddering and would like some input on how other people deal with it. I'm recently made a come back to rts and while I've been a gamer almost all my life I have this stupid adrenaline rush when laddering. I get the shakes and my hands don't quite move like they're supposed to.Macro goes out the door and all I can barely manage to do is battle micro. When I'm playing vs AI I think I never have this problem at all, or even when I'm playing co-op vs AI. This never happens when I'm playing sports games, rpg, and fps (weirdly I get more focused in fps don't know why). I'm thinking of drinking beer before laddering .... any suggestions?
Don't be emotionally invested in the outcome of the game. Tell yourself that you're probably going to lose as the match is starting.
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On October 15 2010 02:14 PhallicAgressor wrote:
You should probably go outside some. If you're getting an adrenaline rushing from playing starcraft on the internet vs people you've never met before, I think you might need to find some other outlets for excitement. I'm being serious.
Disagree with your logic entirely.
I played rugby for 4 years in college, I was an officer in my fraternity and gave public speeches every weak, and I've had the same thing happen to me as the OP.
SC2 just gets your blood pumping. It's strange that sitting in front of a computer playing video games against someone you've never met before can cause an adrenaline rush, but it does. It's not because the OP is a basement dwelling, Dorito muncher... It's because it's a great game.
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I only never had this problem in SC2, been able to keep my head cold in the ladder.
Well starting playing ladder on WC3 was another story tho
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On October 15 2010 01:09 SiegeMode wrote:
I used to get this. Play a few hundred games and it will go away forever, or it did for me.
Also, I find I feel most relaxed when I've got good scouting, because it means I'm not going to be surprised and I know exactly what to do.. prioritizing scouting might help.
This sums it all up. The AI usually makes a similar build every game and you feel confident b/c it's
1. Something predictable
2. Not a human that will go "lawl you made mass lings against my collosus? scrub!
3. A game that isn't ranked so no "pressure" is on
With the adrenaline rush leaving after games is ALSO true due to the "oh i've seen this before" and the "oh sweet another protoss" feeling that makes you feel even more confident. Which in turn helps your scouting.. chain reacting into more and more so you win more and more.
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Heh. I kind of have it different. When I get an adrenaline rush, my APM goes to about 250 for the duration of it.
I wish it would happen more often, since I usually stay somewhere along 100. (With higher in-combat)
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enjoy it. learn to love it. embrace it
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Adrenaline is an APM buff. Learn to love it. Yes, sometimes it will give you stupid mistakes, but more often it will give you the energy you need to do what you need to do. Just work on remembering to think of all the things you need to do when you get that feeling.
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On October 15 2010 02:15 Moody wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2010 01:35 WhoaDrugs wrote:
Xanax, or any benzos for that matter. any one else notice the irony?
What irony?
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Honestly, watch some people stream first person. Listen to their thought processes, see what they do. You'll notice that with more games played, they just seem alot more nonchalant about their games. The adrenaline rush will always be there, but in terms of how you handle situations, you'll be more calm about it.
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Training yourself to not worry about winning the match, and just for winning the incremental little battles here and there can help you relax. You just scouted a cyber core building? If you steal the gas, that's a little victory (as zerg). You just scouted a rax with tech lab making something? Most likely a reaper, and you get a roach warren, little victory there. You just scouted a forge fast expand from protoss? Spamming otu drones with your next pops are little victories. Those are the things I do as zerg anyways, my little victories.
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On October 15 2010 01:13 Zelniq wrote:
really just play like normal, cracklings are nowhere as fearsome as they were in BW
ROFL
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Booze is key in these situations.
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I definitely have this problem. I've played close to 500 total ladder matches, but like 450 of those are 2v2 and 3v3. When playing team games, I might be a little bit nervous for the first match or two, but nothing major and it always goes away quickly. But for some reason it's much worse when playing 1v1. Hell, even thinking about playing 1v1 makes me all nervous inside.
Then again, I only recently started playing 1v1 again, with more success than I expected, so I'll just have to keep grinding it out and hope that nervousness goes away with time.
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mmmm adrenal glands upgrade
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Mass games. It's all you have to do. Train your mind to not care as much. I used to have adrenaline problems but after massing games it doesn't phase me anymore. I used to be concerned with my ranking, win loss ratio, who I was up against (known player) and the adrenaline would kick in and destroy me. Now I just don't care. I have a 59% win ratio with over 200 games and ladder is nothing but practice. I lose and I move on. I win and I move on. I started to enter KOTH's and streamed games and it happened all over again. My adrenaline got the best of me but again, after getting accustomed to it, it went away.
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I never got a big adrenalin rush when I played ladder. I do get it when I play more important matches, like clan wars and other turnys.
Day[9] have talked about this in quite a few dailys. You need to get over the fear of loosing. It is hardm and I had that fear to. But just afte a while, I just knew I always could beat them and was better than the other players. I got confidence and never got scared of laddering again.
When I played vs better enemies I just wanted to win and be able to brag to myself that I won vs a that good of an opponent.
Get comfortable and watch a lot of progames. Then you will know what to do, and having suppirior knowlege helps a lot. Then just play the game and see that it aint that bad to loose.
And when I get the adrenalin rush, I always try to say calm and make the adrenalin my slave. I then get over 9k apm
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Play a lot of games and soon enough you will be used to it.
I'm not sure exactly what goals you have and how you approach the game to reach those goals, but if you find that you have specific problems (you mentioned your macro) you could consider doing some very specific training to improve that aspect of your play?
Review your replays to find out what needs to be improved on, then devise the best training method you can think of and train. That would be my suggestion.
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I've been playing Starcraft since 1998 and I still get crazy adrenaline rushes whenever a game gets difficult. Probably partly because I don't have enough time to play a lot. I would absolutely hate it if it ever went away though. The adrenaline is what leaves a grin on my face after I've won a game. It also brings on the rage after I lose a game, which is quickly replaced by a grin when I realize I'm caring too much about a videogame again
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Make some excersises. Pump!
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seriously, i have an excellent suggestion: use the adrenaline to do some pushups after each match, you will be more relaxed and clear-minded... and the exercise feels great too.
sometimes after a match im pumped up, i'll have a walk around a bit and then do some pushups, helps me feel great, even if i lose i gain focus.
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I have around 400 games played, I still have the jitters when I first launch starcraft then they slowly go away. I think I learned to control it so I can make my hands stop trembling, my foot still taps though I think. But yeah at the beginning of the game sit up straight relax your shoulders take deep breaths and then start APMing see if that helps.
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I think you get adrenaline rush only because you are not confident in your game. Gain confidence, how can you do it?
1) Be a man
2) Get a bear
3) Learn multiple builds
4) Learn to macro like a god
5) Before your ladder session go to the custom games, open the phantom map and cheese anybody.
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play 20 ladder games a day and do not give a shit to winning or losing (however you should try to fully concentrate), after 1 week it will be gone. And your fundamentals will be improved.
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What's all this crap group think about not getting adrenaline rushes if you play heaps of games? Sounds totally wrong to me. Sure if you played for the last 10 hrs you're not likely to get one because there's no more adrenaline, but the next day you're bound to get a rush because that's just the way we are.
In any serious game you will get an adrenaline rush, this happens to ALOT of people doing MANY different things, music performers, singers, sports players etc etc. The only sure fire way to not have one is to rip your adrenaline gland out. Other then that I've heard drinking helps you relax, other people try to trigger the rush BEFORE a performance or game.
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I mostly get them at the very beginning of games and when I play offensively - which kind of makes me play more defensively at avoid it.
But I'm trying to learn to love it.
Sometimes, I just convince my brain I'm playing against a computer and it helps
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On October 15 2010 01:13 Zelniq wrote:
really just play like normal, cracklings are nowhere as fearsome as they were in BW
I think he's talking about IRL adrenaline rush, like, hes getting all psyched up. Not the zergling upgrade.
I find this to be quite useful actually, gets me real focused and ups my apm. Try to cope with it and turn it into something positive.
Or join a Zen temple for a couple of months, those guys know how to stay chilled.
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hmm adrenaline rushes in SC2 were not a problem for me after playing a lot of games and getting confident my hotkey setup and having a "general" idea what I want to do.
I'm much more interested how to deal with the shitloads of rage after losing a match I should have won just because of stupid mistakes, i.e. even the smallest micro mishap is insta-lose against a terran 1a mmm-Ball in PvT, even when if I'm 30 food and a running base ahead. After playing a lot I just expect to win these battles, and mostly do so, but on the other hand it gets endlessly frustrating to lose because of a small micro error. I should probably get a punching bag or something, otherwise I will destroy a lot of stuff in my room over time. I always have the impression I have to work much much harder and be much more alert than a terran opponent although I'm ahead a mile. And statistically PvT is my best matchup even. For pros with crispest micro it is probably balanced, nevertheless but I'm only high plat so it takes away a lot of fun for me to be at such an obvious disadvantage, so its best to stop playing for a few days.
tl; dr:
if you play too little -> adrenaline rush
if you play too much -> hard rage over small mistakes that will cost the game vs. worse opponents.
adrenaline rush is more fun if you ask me..
the key is to find the right balance
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It's ironic that I get this most when I'm winning a really tough game. The prevailing thought being:
"oh my god, I'm winning, hang in there! don't screw up now!"
and then the fear of just throwing it all away on some stupid move that might be right around the corner is what makes me nervous and makes me play with shaky hands.
I play absolutely fine when I'm losing though 
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I get this combined with INTENSE cold in my hands, i mean they're shivering like HELL sometimes i cant even type straight :D
cant really use the adrenaline for apm then :/ anybody has this problem too?
really would like how to avoid that, because adrenaline + shivering hard really screws up my games :/
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On October 15 2010 21:58 oleher wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2010 01:13 Zelniq wrote:
really just play like normal, cracklings are nowhere as fearsome as they were in BW I think he's talking about IRL adrenaline rush, like, hes getting all psyched up. Not the zergling upgrade. I find this to be quite useful actually, gets me real focused and ups my apm. Try to cope with it and turn it into something positive. Or join a Zen temple for a couple of months, those guys know how to stay chilled.
*Facepalm...*
That's the point of the joke...
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keep your plan in your head constantly and keep control over yourself. you'll naturally get more flowing throughout the game at different points, combat, losing or winning a fight etc, and afterwards if you win the game.
eventually you'll get used to it all. Then once you get used to adrenaline in ladder games, try your luck in some free tournaments, after that then you move onto the big stuff. all in all your game is improving and you'll feel less nervous. just think about it all systematically, just like you should be thinking about your match.
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I found the best way to play stress free is to not give a fuck. I mean seriously, your ladder points are the least important things in the world. Nobody cares if it goes up or down. And when I stopped caring, all my problems seemed to go away!
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It comes down to practice really.
Play a few hundred ladder games and you won't have that problem, but bigger games with prize pools and stuff like that will still get you on edge until you have played a lot of them,
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On October 15 2010 22:46 Darchigh wrote:
I get this combined with INTENSE cold in my hands, i mean they're shivering like HELL sometimes i cant even type straight :D
cant really use the adrenaline for apm then :/ anybody has this problem too?
really would like how to avoid that, because adrenaline + shivering hard really screws up my games :/
I get super cold hands too! My computer is right next to a huge window too, so in the winter I've had my mouse hand turn bluish while playing games
Wearing a thin winter glove or gardening glove helps, but it's kinda weird playing with one gloved hand. If you can get used to it though it might be better than being freezing cold. Something like gardening gloves or cloth work gloves with grip pads on them might help too to keep your hand warm, but also not let the mouse slip on the cloth. Kinda weird, but it helps me at least.
Wiggling your fingers, flexing your hand or quickly making a fist then jazz hands is a good way to get blood back into your hands and keep em warm and functioning.
Also, deep breaths after a big fight to calm yourself back down helps a bit. Exercise + sports help too by building your circulation and letting your body get used to a high heart rate + adrenaline. My hand gets cold less since I started running. So if you got free time during the day, go run around for a while. Unless you already do, then just wear gloves =P
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Enjoy the rush. Some people jump from airplanes or bridges to get the adrenaline flowing. Gaming is probably much safer.
I don't ladder a lot, but i get the rush in deciding battles in really close games. Afterwards i usually watch the replay or close SC2 entirely and think about the game i just played for a few minutes. The adrenaline makes you super-focused, so you have an excellent opportunity to learn there. The side-effects of a receding adrenaline level like oversensitivity or light shaking are rather unhelpful for playing another game right afterwards though.
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play many many many many games and tournaments even if you lose on first round you'll get used to it
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On October 15 2010 18:39 light3 wrote:
What's all this crap group think about not getting adrenaline rushes if you play heaps of games? Sounds totally wrong to me
The basis of my statement about that is that i have experienced it myself. I would not be surprised if other posters have a similar basis for their statement.
To call it "group think" because it has been posted by a majority in the thread, is that really justified?
I was of this opinion before this (or a similar) thread was created.
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Practice with friends,jump to melee games and ladder when you feel confortable.The system will make you fight equal opponents so remember you have 50-50% chance.
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I used to get this as well. My macro would totally go away and I'd be all stressed out, microing my army until every single unit is fucking dead. The way I got over it is losing, like other people said.
Just think to yourself that you need to lose some games in order to have a learning tool to improve (replays of your losses).
Also,
On October 15 2010 18:31 TitCriss wrote:
1) Be a man
2) Get a bear
rofl
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I love the adrenaline rush.. I feel like I'm Jaedong all sweated up.. but after that I'm all stressed up lol
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spamming APM helps keep your mind off it, assuming you really feel it before you have anything else to start multitasking
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I don't ever get any shaking unless I'm playing someone I know and even then its mild. I know the feeling though and I get that in RL in a fight. I'd just try to calm down personally. I have rituals which get me in the right mindset for focus and doing my best. I haven't quite got them ironed out for gaming but they worked like a charm for lifting weights. My problem is usually I am too tired, not focused rather than too much adrenaline.
Basically I do this deep breathing technique with my eyes closed that I learned in Karate school as a kid. Then I do a lot of hand stretches. Then I get some music on and play some flash games that require quick clicking/reaction. I make sure I have ate. Make sure I drank more water than I want. Get some coffee, whey, carbo drink. Make sure I've gone to the bathroom. This lets me play easily for 4 hours without having to get up (except maybe to pee) and be completely engaged and focused. The body isn't saying it needs anything because all its needs are met so it makes it much easier to focus/control yourself.
None of these things mean you will focus and be calm but finding your own ritual really helps because it lets your brain transition into "gaming mode". You can have full control of your faculties this way. I mean if your are lifting weights (esp 5x5 variants) you need to control your strength and adrenaline to when you want to use it and not waste it. Thats my advice anyway.
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practice and more practice, for me I've just gotten used to it. Took some time but now it isnt really that big of an issue any more.
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yea i get mad adrenaline too when i play. when i think im about to win im shaking like crazy. and when i see that VICTORY i go YEAAAH FUK YEAAAA.
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Just keep playing, and you should enjoy the feeling of the rush instead of trying to fight it. I think it is quite exciting^^
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CC The rogue until his cooldowns run out. Use spellalert to know when he pops it.
Cheers,
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For me at least, music helps, alot.
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I've found it's mostly gone away, but I still get it from time to time. It's a lot worse if I've had coffee or something caffeinated. I find I only get it now if my macro starts falling apart due to semi constant worker harass, which, is my fault for not scouting well enough in the first place. The only thing I could suggest based on my problem with it, is to scout as well as possible and know what to expect.
Not knowing is most of the battle.
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I have this problem too... shivering, cold/stiff hands, bad coordination with the mouse hand, pounding heartbeat, total exhaustion after a match. Never had it in team games, only 1v1.
A lot of people say that it will go away over time, so I try to have faith in that. I started playing 1v1s in SC2 (only played team in BW). I found that I didn't get the problem so much when playing practice matches against friends if I feel that there is a relaxing atmosphere. So I've been doing a lot of that lately, playing vs friends or simply joining custom games, waiting for diamond players to join. I still get a little of the tension when playing against someone much higher ranked (I'm currently at 600 points diamond), but it seems that I'm able to relax more frequently. Hoping to be able to start playing more ladder games soon, I've been forcing myself to play maybe 10 games a week, but I still get quite exhausted by it.
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I just tell myself before every match that I am fucking awful at this game. It definitely helps release the tension.
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If you find yourself shaking a lot, I suggest playing a few 4v4s to ease up (it works surprisingly well).
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On October 16 2010 05:05 syncom wrote:
I have this problem too... shivering, cold/stiff hands, bad coordination with the mouse hand, pounding heartbeat, total exhaustion after a match. Never had it in team games, only 1v1.
A lot of people say that it will go away over time, so I try to have faith in that. I started playing 1v1s in SC2 (only played team in BW). I found that I didn't get the problem so much when playing practice matches against friends if I feel that there is a relaxing atmosphere. So I've been doing a lot of that lately, playing vs friends or simply joining custom games, waiting for diamond players to join. I still get a little of the tension when playing against someone much higher ranked (I'm currently at 600 points diamond), but it seems that I'm able to relax more frequently. Hoping to be able to start playing more ladder games soon, I've been forcing myself to play maybe 10 games a week, but I still get quite exhausted by it.
this happens when you are under alot of pressure. in 1v1 all the pressure is on you and you may not be able to play well. but in 2v2 there are 2 players ( i dont think i needed to mention that) so the pressure is split between both players. the only real way to deal with this is to keep playing and to keep on well playing XD over time usally the pressure goes away. this may also happen because your scared of losing. but dont be scared every lose= a win in a competitive envrioment if you can learn from it so dont be scared to lose. (but i would not recommend to just go on ladder and play zerg if your main is toss)
hope that helps your nerveousness ( <--- idk how to spell) and hopefullythe prob will go away and you can contiue to grow your SC2 skillz :D
GL~StormX
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On October 15 2010 01:06 dekwaz wrote:Hello I've been having some problems when laddering and would like some input on how other people deal with it. I'm recently made a come back to rts and while I've been a gamer almost all my life I have this stupid adrenaline rush when laddering. I get the shakes and my hands don't quite move like they're supposed to.Macro goes out the door and all I can barely manage to do is battle micro. When I'm playing vs AI I think I never have this problem at all, or even when I'm playing co-op vs AI. This never happens when I'm playing sports games, rpg, and fps (weirdly I get more focused in fps don't know why). I'm thinking of drinking beer before laddering .... any suggestions?
I recommend upgrading adrenal glands, should help.
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Ya i used to have it too. I still get it after playing from a break but Classical music helps. i tried metal it doesn't work it just makes me more jumpy and overaggressive IMO.
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Just keep in mind that its just a game, and there is nothing wrong with losing. When I lose I study my replay and learn. Remember its suppose to be fun!
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Rub one out before you play? That usually gets rid of jitters too.
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On October 15 2010 22:35 Panoptic wrote:It's ironic that I get this most when I'm winning a really tough game. The prevailing thought being: "oh my god, I'm winning, hang in there! don't screw up now!" and then the fear of just throwing it all away on some stupid move that might be right around the corner is what makes me nervous and makes me play with shaky hands. I play absolutely fine when I'm losing though
That's pretty interesting, haven't really thought of it that way before. But now that I think about it, I definitely play the most confidently when I'm far behind. I have thought of it as becoming more creative when being boxed in, but I think it also makes me relax and trust myself much more, often engaging in very risky maneuvers, trusting my ability to pull it off. Playing more minimalistic like "nah, np, I'll just place these 3 marines behind this supply depot and they'll take care of those stupid zerglings". When I'm far ahead (against someone who is not a newbie) I tend to get really shaky and paranoid and play very defensively.
It's weird how a void ray can go from looking like a harmless little thing when I'm far behind to a "dangerous threat" when I'm on 3 base vs 1.
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i don't think it's good to try to surpress the rush. think of it like your body is trying to go super saiyan mode, and you just haven't trained in the hyperbolic time chamber so you can't handle it. embrace it, realize that it takes you to a level you can't go to in your normal state, and you'll start playing at 300% what you could normally do once you can handle it. all the people in this thread trying so hard to surpress it are cheating themselves out of a higher level of play.
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On October 15 2010 01:06 dekwaz wrote:Hello I've been having some problems when laddering and would like some input on how other people deal with it. I'm recently made a come back to rts and while I've been a gamer almost all my life I have this stupid adrenaline rush when laddering. I get the shakes and my hands don't quite move like they're supposed to.Macro goes out the door and all I can barely manage to do is battle micro. When I'm playing vs AI I think I never have this problem at all, or even when I'm playing co-op vs AI. This never happens when I'm playing sports games, rpg, and fps (weirdly I get more focused in fps don't know why). I'm thinking of drinking beer before laddering .... any suggestions?
Embrace it.
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A couple of tips that might change your mindset over time to improve the jitters:
1. Play more. A lot more. Lose a lot.
Do you remember when you were a kid, learning to play catch? Remember how you had to teach yourself to get in front of the ball, even though you didn't want to? The only way you could get over the fear of getting hit in the face with a baseball was by getting hit a couple of times and realizing it wasn't that bad after all.
Gaming is no different. Lose a bunch of games and realize it's not the end of the world.
2. Tell yourself (over and over if you have to) that you're playing to LEARN, not to WIN. Don't get emotional whether you win or lose -- stay as clear headed as possible and don't get flustered. Especially as Zerg (all those panic 'lings you made in response to that early push probably could have been drones instead)!
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I still get this from time to time, but after watching a ton of day9, and realizing that like the 2nd poster, you play to learn and improve not to win, it's a lot better.
After i went on an eeeeeeepppic losing streak in a few days time, it actually helped my overall game because i went back to the basics of zerg, drones, expanding, and flanking, rather than try to rush or do gimmicky all-ins to pad my win rate. Mass gaming on a losing streak though, prolly isn't good for your health, nor is it good for your win rate, as each loss makes you grip harder.
After 800 games, limiting myself to 4-8 games a day actually improves my play and i learn a lot more because i can look at my replays with no emotional attachment.
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I love the adrenaline rush
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Weird, adrenaline makes most people perform better, not worse.
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On October 15 2010 01:06 dekwaz wrote:Hello I've been having some problems when laddering and would like some input on how other people deal with it. I'm recently made a come back to rts and while I've been a gamer almost all my life I have this stupid adrenaline rush when laddering. I get the shakes and my hands don't quite move like they're supposed to.Macro goes out the door and all I can barely manage to do is battle micro. When I'm playing vs AI I think I never have this problem at all, or even when I'm playing co-op vs AI. This never happens when I'm playing sports games, rpg, and fps (weirdly I get more focused in fps don't know why). I'm thinking of drinking beer before laddering .... any suggestions?
If you have this problem in ladder you are getting a preview of what a lan is like. Your eyes are on the prize, whether that is points or just your own confirmation of your skill. Focus on the game .
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As a lot of folks already said, just playing a lot of games will let you get used to the adrenaline rush It's great to have!
As a way of playing a lot of games though, I'd recommend you go to custom games and try playing on the Blizzard maps that get hosted. It won't impact your record at all (if you care about that sort of thing), you'll probably find a game faster than going on the ladder and it'll be a great way to warm up.
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i had this at warcraft3, what helped me is just to wait some minutes after a game until your heart beat goes down(i was like 150 beats/min? im serious)
now i only get this adrenaline rush when i play high and usually after the big things happened not before and not during it which is actually kinda funny because my circulation is rly bad when im high and some times i feel like im dying. but after that feeling is gone,it feels like it felt fucking awesome :D
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I remember my first tournament game, I couldn't feel my limbs throughout the majority of the first 3 or so games.
Like people have already said 100 times, just play games and remember that this is a GAME. There's not a thing in the world wrong with loosing, and chances are your opponent is freaking out too.
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I only get this when I'm having a really epic base race. Only then. Idk why.
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I remember this from my CAL team in CSS back in the day lol. I remember my first 1 v 4 clutch with about 100 people watching. So intense, lol. But it makes most other gaming endeavors seem lame by comparison. So just play a few tournament matches, and you'r laddering will seem calm. :-p
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On October 15 2010 01:06 dekwaz wrote:I'm thinking of drinking beer before laddering .... any suggestions?
I ladder while drunk often, I find being drunk helps me to not overthink what I'm doing, and gives me more flow to my mechanics at lower levels of drunk
But there's a point where it makes you worse. I play terrible when I'm shitfaced drunk
I think the best thing to do is just play until you're desensitized and you don't experience that rush as intensively anymore
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It just dies down after a while.
Although, having an adrenaline rush while having 3 bases saves my ass so much. I go paranoid with Warp Gates and spread proxy pylons everywhere. <3
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I used to get this so bad when I first got into DotA.
Starcraft was the same way, but it was more that playing games and losing points was scary, as opposed to DotA where I would be calm and set up a gank, then my heart would start beating super fast and I would feel nervous.
I didn't admit this to most people, it sounded weird <_<
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I always get this. Soo annoying especially since my chair is so noisy... it rattles. Sorta embarrassing.
Not going to sweat it though, as I'm sure after playing some more, the anxiety or whatever will go away.
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I find caffeine intensifies my response to sticky situations, and therefore generally try to stay away from it completely when playing starcraft. Whenever i have caffiene I usually like to detox for a good long while before continuing any competetive sessions (Although i really just dont care about practice games, so it's a different feeling)
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do some excersive it makes it so your body is more fit to blood pressure rises, adrenaline rushes, stress, etc.
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On October 15 2010 01:06 dekwaz wrote:Hello I've been having some problems when laddering and would like some input on how other people deal with it. I'm recently made a come back to rts and while I've been a gamer almost all my life I have this stupid adrenaline rush when laddering. I get the shakes and my hands don't quite move like they're supposed to.Macro goes out the door and all I can barely manage to do is battle micro. When I'm playing vs AI I think I never have this problem at all, or even when I'm playing co-op vs AI. This never happens when I'm playing sports games, rpg, and fps (weirdly I get more focused in fps don't know why). I'm thinking of drinking beer before laddering .... any suggestions?
You should actually enjoy and embrace this magical feeling.
After playing thousands of games the feeling just goes away completely and, in all honesty I miss it
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I get that feeling in every other game except for SC2... i dont know why... i kinda miss it
Sum1 teach me to induce anxiety and adrenaline for sc2... makes me play better ;;
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This always happens to me in important games, I know what you mean. It seems like my mouse stops working and my clicks slow down even though I know I need to keep going, I've learned to listen to music when i'm playing with my headphones in usually helps me keep calm.
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I listen to music when I play. It really helps calm down and keep your cool instead of listening to your adren.
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Don't deal with the adrenaline rush. Deal with not having an adrenaline rush.
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after you play for 5 hours...
you can't get the rush anymore
you're just dead.
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You're lucky. I need more adrenaline when I play. thats why whenever I play I crack open an energy drink.
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