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Rahlekk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States107 Posts
November 06 2010 23:32 GMT
#941
My bug is that the program does fit on my screen, so I can't get to the calculate button or whatever.

When I make it smaller, there's no vertical scroll bar. D:
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tetracycloide
Profile Joined July 2010
295 Posts
November 07 2010 02:31 GMT
#942
Something happened between 17 and 20 to improve efficiency and it's really noticeable. I went from around 5300k games/sec to 10000k+ games/sec for a final end condition at time 4:45. Really great work there.
My vanity is justified
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
November 07 2010 02:34 GMT
#943
On November 07 2010 08:32 Rahlekk wrote:
My bug is that the program does fit on my screen, so I can't get to the calculate button or whatever.

When I make it smaller, there's no vertical scroll bar. D:


Yes I posted about that a page or two ago, this only happened to me in the new version, v20. Sometimes closing and reopening the program helps a little.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Bumblebees
Profile Joined August 2010
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 03:24:50
November 07 2010 03:20 GMT
#944
On November 07 2010 11:31 tetracycloide wrote:
Something happened between 17 and 20 to improve efficiency and it's really noticeable. I went from around 5300k games/sec to 10000k+ games/sec for a final end condition at time 4:45. Really great work there.


Yep. Lots of bottlenecks in the code were removed.

I've been working on further efficiency stuff beyond that, but I'm waiting for lomilar to finish refactoring some code and to see if someone is going to rewrite a portion of the data structure.

It will get even faster still :D
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 03:32:04
November 07 2010 03:28 GMT
#945
Just saw this; wish there were something like this for protoss ><

I would donate!
Widar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden261 Posts
November 07 2010 03:30 GMT
#946
This feels so wrong.
Fake it till you make it
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
November 07 2010 03:34 GMT
#947
On November 07 2010 12:28 Karliath wrote:
Just saw this; wish there were something like this for protoss ><

I would donate!


It's already being worked on, you can see some of the work here:
http://code.google.com/p/evolutionchamber/issues/detail?id=19#c14
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
November 07 2010 03:38 GMT
#948
On November 07 2010 12:34 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 12:28 Karliath wrote:
Just saw this; wish there were something like this for protoss ><

I would donate!


It's already being worked on, you can see some of the work here:
http://code.google.com/p/evolutionchamber/issues/detail?id=19#c14


:O Guess I have to take the money out of my pocket soon then.
It does go to Lomilar, right?

But yeah, this would definitely beat the hours spent in YABOT...
InfiniteIce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States794 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 04:05:31
November 07 2010 04:04 GMT
#949
On November 07 2010 07:03 PhilDK wrote:
How to run this program, I can't get it to work on my mac


Read the OP.

Install the Java VM. Then run this program. All the details you need are in the google code page.
Java works on all platforms because it is run in a VM.
i keep going back to my response to chill's fake PM and laughing, then immediately getting a feeling that i assume i'd get if i had an orgasm and the girl said "hahaha guess what i have a dick" -FakeSteve
InfiniteIce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States794 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 04:14:04
November 07 2010 04:11 GMT
#950
On November 07 2010 11:34 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 08:32 Rahlekk wrote:
My bug is that the program does fit on my screen, so I can't get to the calculate button or whatever.

When I make it smaller, there's no vertical scroll bar. D:


Yes I posted about that a page or two ago, this only happened to me in the new version, v20. Sometimes closing and reopening the program helps a little.


I also have this issue (program won't show start/stop buttons on top.) This includes when I have maximized it to it's full size on my resolution, including dragging the window down and making it larger repeatedly. My resolution is 1366x768. It's slightly worse on a 1280x720.

New since 0020, was fine in 0017.

Edit: It's already an issue reported here: http://code.google.com/p/evolutionchamber/issues/detail?id=123#c4 for another, smaller resolution.

Edit two: It seems there are quite a few people that reported this issue already: http://code.google.com/p/evolutionchamber/updates/list
i keep going back to my response to chill's fake PM and laughing, then immediately getting a feeling that i assume i'd get if i had an orgasm and the girl said "hahaha guess what i have a dick" -FakeSteve
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
November 07 2010 04:21 GMT
#951
On November 07 2010 13:11 InfiniteIce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:34 Dionyseus wrote:
On November 07 2010 08:32 Rahlekk wrote:
My bug is that the program does fit on my screen, so I can't get to the calculate button or whatever.

When I make it smaller, there's no vertical scroll bar. D:


Yes I posted about that a page or two ago, this only happened to me in the new version, v20. Sometimes closing and reopening the program helps a little.


I also have this issue (program won't show start/stop buttons on top.) This includes when I have maximized it to it's full size on my resolution, including dragging the window down and making it larger repeatedly. My resolution is 1366x768. It's slightly worse on a 1280x720.

New since 0020, was fine in 0017.

Edit: It's already an issue reported here: http://code.google.com/p/evolutionchamber/issues/detail?id=123#c4 for another, smaller resolution.

Edit two: It seems there are quite a few people that reported this issue already: http://code.google.com/p/evolutionchamber/updates/list


My resolution is 1280x1024 so that's one of the affected resolutions as well.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 04:52:22
November 07 2010 04:32 GMT
#952
I just destroyed three or four 2k diamond Terrans with this speedling nydus build the program designed (that's really annoying to execute perfectly and is vulnerable to early pressure, but ridiculously effective). It's hilarious. It's a pretty fragile build until about 5 minutes, but if you are actually able to execute it unmolested you'll pretty much win 100%.

edit: I'll copy it here (annotated with additional improvements):
+ Show Spoiler +
@0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone
@0:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:17 M:54 G:0 L:3 S:7/10 BuildDrone
@0:27 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone
@0:32 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:34 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:38 M:55 G:0 L:2 S/10 BuildDrone
@0:44 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:47 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:55 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:55 M:103 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 BuildOverlord
@1:02 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:17 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:20 Spawned: Overlord+1
@1:20 M:173 G:0 L:3 S:10/18 BuildDrone
@1:20 M:123 G:0 L:2 S:11/18 BuildDrone
@1:20 M:73 G:0 L:1 S:12/18 BuildExtractor
@1:21 M:54 G:0 L:1 S:11/18 BuildDrone
@1:35 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:35 M:89 G:0 L:1 S:12/18 BuildDrone
@1:37 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:37 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:38 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:50 Spawned: Extractor+1
@1:50 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:50 M:157 G:0 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone
@1:50 M:107 G:0 L:0 S:14/18 MineGas
@1:52 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:52 Mining: +1 on gas
@2:02 M:204 G:6 L:0 S:14/18 BuildSpawningPool
@2:05 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:07 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:20 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:35 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:38 M:300 G:29 L:3 S:13/18 BuildHatchery
@2:38 M:0 G:29 L:3 S:12/18 MineGas
@2:40 Mining: +1 on gas
@2:46 M:54 G:39 L:3 S:12/18 BuildDrone
@2:53 M:52 G:49 L:2 S:13/18 BuildDrone
@3:00 M:50 G:59 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone
@3:00 M:0 G:59 L:0 S:15/18 MineGas (these weird drone gas timings are the most irritating part of this build, but they do shave off about 4 seconds from the final zerglings' pop time)
@3:01 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:02 Mining: +1 on gas
@3:03 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:07 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1
@3:08 M:52 G:73 L:1 S:15/18 BuildDrone
@3:10 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:16 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:16 M:60 G:88 L:1 S:16/18 BuildDrone
@3:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:25 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:31 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:31 M:137 G:117 L:1 S:17/18 BuildDrone
@3:33 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:46 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:46 M:230 G:145 L:1 S:18/18 BuildOverlord
@3:48 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:49 M:159 G:151 L:0 S:18/18 BuildLair
@4:01 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:11 Spawned: Overlord+1
@4:11 M:236 G3 L:1 S:18/26 BuildDrone
@4:16 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:16 M:238 G:102 L:1 S:19/26 BuildDrone
@4:18 Spawned: Hatchery+1
@4:28 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:31 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:31 M:341 G:131 L:2 S:20/28 BuildDrone
@4:31 M:291 G:131 L:1 S:21/28 BuildQueen
@4:31 M:141 G:131 L:1 S:23/28 BuildDrone
@4:33 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:46 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:46 M:260 G:159 L:2 S:24/28 BuildOverlord
@4:46 M:160 G:159 L:1 S:24/28 BuildOverlord
@4:48 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:48 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:50 M:107 G:167 L:0 S:24/28 Metabolic Boost (I see zero benefit to actually getting both these two overlords before ling speed, so I just get one, then speed, then the other)
@5:01 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:01 M:149 G:88 L:2 S:24/28 BuildZergling
@5:01 M9 G:88 L:1 S:25/28 BuildZergling
@5:09 Spawned: Lairs+1
@5:11 Spawned: Overlord+1
@5:11 Spawned: Overlord+1
@5:16 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:16 M:243 G:116 L:2 S:26/44 BuildZergling
@5:16 M:193 G:116 L:1 S:27/44 BuildZergling
@5:21 Spawned: Queen+1
@5:25 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:25 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:31 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:31 M:337 G:145 L:2 S:28/44 BuildZergling
@5:31 M:287 G:145 L:1 S:29/44 BuildZergling
@5:40 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:40 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:46 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:46 M:430 G:173 L:2 S:30/44 BuildZergling
@5:46 M:380 G:173 L:1 S:31/44 BuildZergling
@5:55 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:55 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:01 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:01 M:524 G:202 L:2 S:32/44 BuildZergling
@6:01 M:474 G:202 L:1 S:33/44 BuildZergling
@6:01 M:424 G:202 L:0 S:34/44 BuildNydusNetwork (It's best to have an overlord off to the side of your main when lair pops or you get around 150 gas so you can build the nydus on the generated creep to avoid scans)
@6:06 Spawned: Larva+4
@6:06 M:335 G:11 L:4 S:33/44 BuildZergling
@6:06 M:285 G:11 L:3 S:34/44 BuildZergling
@6:06 M:235 G:11 L:2 S:35/44 BuildZergling
@6:06 M:185 G:11 L:1 S:36/44 BuildZergling
@6:10 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:10 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:16 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:16 M:257 G:30 L:2 S:37/44 BuildZergling
@6:16 M:207 G:30 L:1 S:38/44 BuildZergling
@6:25 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:25 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:30 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:30 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:30 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:30 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:31 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:31 M:339 G:59 L:2 S:39/44 BuildZergling
@6:31 M:289 G:59 L:1 S:40/44 BuildZergling
@6:40 Evolved: Metabolic Boost
@6:40 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:40 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:46 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:46 M:422 G:87 L:2 S:41/44 BuildZergling
@6:46 M:372 G:87 L:1 S:42/44 BuildZergling
@6:51 Spawned: Nydus Network+1
@6:51 Spawned: Larva+4
@6:51 M:382 G7 L:4 S:43/44 BuildZergling
@6:51 M:332 G7 L:3 S:44/44 ExtractorTrick
@6:51 M:307 G7 L:3 S:43/44 BuildZergling
@6:51 M:257 G7 L:2 S:44/44 ExtractorTrick
@6:51 M:232 G7 L:2 S:43/44 ExtractorTrick
@6:51 M:207 G7 L:2 S:42/44 MineMineral
@6:51 M:207 G7 L:2 S:42/44 BuildZergling
@6:51 M:157 G7 L:1 S:43/44 BuildZergling
@6:53 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@6:53 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@6:53 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored (I like to do the triple extractor trick just because I want them to watch the replay, but just making an overlord and droning up is as valid an immediate followup as just pumping more and more lings into their base in 90% of situations)
@6:53 Mining: +1 on minerals
@6:53 M:187 G:100 L:0 S:47/44 BuildNydusWorm
@6:55 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:55 Spawned: Zergling+2
@7:01 Spawned: Larva+1
@7:10 Spawned: Zergling+2
@7:10 Spawned: Zergling+2
@7:13 Spawned: Nydus Worm+1
@7:15 Spawned: Zergling+2
@7:15 Spawned: Zergling+2
@7:15 Spawned: Zergling+2
@7:15 Spawned: Zergling+2
Satisfied.
Number of actions in build order: 66
-------Goal-------
Zerglings: 48
Gas Extractors: 1
Nydus Networks: 1
Nydus Worms: 1
Metabolic Boost
---Final Output---
At time: 7:15
Minerals: 372 Gas: 30 Supply: 47/44 Larva: 2
Drones: 21
Overlords: 5
Queens: 1
Zerglings: 48
Hatcheries: 1
Lairs: 1
Gas Extractors: 1
Spawning Pools: 1
Nydus Networks: 1
Nydus Worms: 1
Metabolic Boost
------------------
Sat Nov 06 11:34:46 CDT 2010: 547911.4730083235
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
November 07 2010 04:44 GMT
#953
On November 07 2010 13:32 tsuxiit wrote:
I just destroyed three or four 2k diamond Terrans with this speedling nydus build the program designed (that's really annoying to execute perfectly and is vulnerable to early pressure, but ridiculously effective). It's hilarious.


Interesting. I'd imagine that'd be most effective in large maps like Shakuras and Metapolis.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
November 07 2010 04:58 GMT
#954
I mean, it's effective on any map if they don't scout the worm building, lol. It'll be most viable on maps where you can get the fast expand down without being pressured to screw up the build.
Plutonium
Profile Joined November 2007
United States2217 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 05:41:02
November 07 2010 05:26 GMT
#955
On November 07 2010 13:32 tsuxiit wrote:
I just destroyed three or four 2k diamond Terrans with this speedling nydus build the program designed (that's really annoying to execute perfectly and is vulnerable to early pressure, but ridiculously effective). It's hilarious. It's a pretty fragile build until about 5 minutes, but if you are actually able to execute it unmolested you'll pretty much win 100%.

edit: I'll copy it here (annotated with additional improvements):
+ Show Spoiler +
@0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone
@0:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:17 M:54 G:0 L:3 S:7/10 BuildDrone
@0:27 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone
@0:32 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:34 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:38 M:55 G:0 L:2 S/10 BuildDrone
@0:44 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:47 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:55 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:55 M:103 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 BuildOverlord
@1:02 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:17 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:20 Spawned: Overlord+1
@1:20 M:173 G:0 L:3 S:10/18 BuildDrone
@1:20 M:123 G:0 L:2 S:11/18 BuildDrone
@1:20 M:73 G:0 L:1 S:12/18 BuildExtractor
@1:21 M:54 G:0 L:1 S:11/18 BuildDrone
@1:35 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:35 M:89 G:0 L:1 S:12/18 BuildDrone
@1:37 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:37 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:38 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:50 Spawned: Extractor+1
@1:50 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:50 M:157 G:0 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone
@1:50 M:107 G:0 L:0 S:14/18 MineGas
@1:52 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:52 Mining: +1 on gas
@2:02 M:204 G:6 L:0 S:14/18 BuildSpawningPool
@2:05 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:07 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:20 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:35 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:38 M:300 G:29 L:3 S:13/18 BuildHatchery
@2:38 M:0 G:29 L:3 S:12/18 MineGas
@2:40 Mining: +1 on gas
@2:46 M:54 G:39 L:3 S:12/18 BuildDrone
@2:53 M:52 G:49 L:2 S:13/18 BuildDrone
@3:00 M:50 G:59 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone
@3:00 M:0 G:59 L:0 S:15/18 MineGas (these weird drone gas timings are the most irritating part of this build, but they do shave off about 4 seconds from the final zerglings' pop time)
@3:01 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:02 Mining: +1 on gas
@3:03 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:07 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1
@3:08 M:52 G:73 L:1 S:15/18 BuildDrone
@3:10 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:16 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:16 M:60 G:88 L:1 S:16/18 BuildDrone
@3:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:25 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:31 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:31 M:137 G:117 L:1 S:17/18 BuildDrone
@3:33 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:46 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:46 M:230 G:145 L:1 S:18/18 BuildOverlord
@3:48 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:49 M:159 G:151 L:0 S:18/18 BuildLair
@4:01 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:11 Spawned: Overlord+1
@4:11 M:236 G3 L:1 S:18/26 BuildDrone
@4:16 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:16 M:238 G:102 L:1 S:19/26 BuildDrone
@4:18 Spawned: Hatchery+1
@4:28 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:31 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:31 M:341 G:131 L:2 S:20/28 BuildDrone
@4:31 M:291 G:131 L:1 S:21/28 BuildQueen
@4:31 M:141 G:131 L:1 S:23/28 BuildDrone
@4:33 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:46 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:46 M:260 G:159 L:2 S:24/28 BuildOverlord
@4:46 M:160 G:159 L:1 S:24/28 BuildOverlord
@4:48 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:48 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:50 M:107 G:167 L:0 S:24/28 Metabolic Boost (I see zero benefit to actually getting both these two overlords before ling speed, so I just get one, then speed, then the other)
@5:01 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:01 M:149 G:88 L:2 S:24/28 BuildZergling
@5:01 M9 G:88 L:1 S:25/28 BuildZergling
@5:09 Spawned: Lairs+1
@5:11 Spawned: Overlord+1
@5:11 Spawned: Overlord+1
@5:16 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:16 M:243 G:116 L:2 S:26/44 BuildZergling
@5:16 M:193 G:116 L:1 S:27/44 BuildZergling
@5:21 Spawned: Queen+1
@5:25 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:25 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:31 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:31 M:337 G:145 L:2 S:28/44 BuildZergling
@5:31 M:287 G:145 L:1 S:29/44 BuildZergling
@5:40 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:40 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:46 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:46 M:430 G:173 L:2 S:30/44 BuildZergling
@5:46 M:380 G:173 L:1 S:31/44 BuildZergling
@5:55 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:55 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:01 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:01 M:524 G:202 L:2 S:32/44 BuildZergling
@6:01 M:474 G:202 L:1 S:33/44 BuildZergling
@6:01 M:424 G:202 L:0 S:34/44 BuildNydusNetwork (It's best to have an overlord off to the side of your main when lair pops or you get around 150 gas so you can build the nydus on the generated creep to avoid scans)
@6:06 Spawned: Larva+4
@6:06 M:335 G:11 L:4 S:33/44 BuildZergling
@6:06 M:285 G:11 L:3 S:34/44 BuildZergling
@6:06 M:235 G:11 L:2 S:35/44 BuildZergling
@6:06 M:185 G:11 L:1 S:36/44 BuildZergling
@6:10 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:10 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:16 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:16 M:257 G:30 L:2 S:37/44 BuildZergling
@6:16 M:207 G:30 L:1 S:38/44 BuildZergling
@6:25 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:25 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:30 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:30 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:30 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:30 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:31 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:31 M:339 G:59 L:2 S:39/44 BuildZergling
@6:31 M:289 G:59 L:1 S:40/44 BuildZergling
@6:40 Evolved: Metabolic Boost
@6:40 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:40 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:46 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:46 M:422 G:87 L:2 S:41/44 BuildZergling
@6:46 M:372 G:87 L:1 S:42/44 BuildZergling
@6:51 Spawned: Nydus Network+1
@6:51 Spawned: Larva+4
@6:51 M:382 G7 L:4 S:43/44 BuildZergling
@6:51 M:332 G7 L:3 S:44/44 ExtractorTrick
@6:51 M:307 G7 L:3 S:43/44 BuildZergling
@6:51 M:257 G7 L:2 S:44/44 ExtractorTrick
@6:51 M:232 G7 L:2 S:43/44 ExtractorTrick
@6:51 M:207 G7 L:2 S:42/44 MineMineral
@6:51 M:207 G7 L:2 S:42/44 BuildZergling
@6:51 M:157 G7 L:1 S:43/44 BuildZergling
@6:53 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@6:53 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@6:53 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored (I like to do the triple extractor trick just because I want them to watch the replay, but just making an overlord and droning up is as valid an immediate followup as just pumping more and more lings into their base in 90% of situations)
@6:53 Mining: +1 on minerals
@6:53 M:187 G:100 L:0 S:47/44 BuildNydusWorm
@6:55 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:55 Spawned: Zergling+2
@7:01 Spawned: Larva+1
@7:10 Spawned: Zergling+2
@7:10 Spawned: Zergling+2
@7:13 Spawned: Nydus Worm+1
@7:15 Spawned: Zergling+2
@7:15 Spawned: Zergling+2
@7:15 Spawned: Zergling+2
@7:15 Spawned: Zergling+2
Satisfied.
Number of actions in build order: 66
-------Goal-------
Zerglings: 48
Gas Extractors: 1
Nydus Networks: 1
Nydus Worms: 1
Metabolic Boost
---Final Output---
At time: 7:15
Minerals: 372 Gas: 30 Supply: 47/44 Larva: 2
Drones: 21
Overlords: 5
Queens: 1
Zerglings: 48
Hatcheries: 1
Lairs: 1
Gas Extractors: 1
Spawning Pools: 1
Nydus Networks: 1
Nydus Worms: 1
Metabolic Boost
------------------
Sat Nov 06 11:34:46 CDT 2010: 547911.4730083235


I found a 48 zergling/nydus build that's almost 20 seconds faster than that!

+ Show Spoiler +
@0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone
@0:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:17 M:54 G:0 L:3 S:7/10 BuildDrone
@0:27 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone
@0:32 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:34 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:38 M:55 G:0 L:2 S/10 BuildDrone
@0:44 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:47 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:51 M:78 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 ExtractorTrick
@0:51 M:53 G:0 L:2 S/10 BuildDrone
@0:53 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@0:55 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:02 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:08 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:17 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:17 M:202 G:0 L:3 S:11/10 BuildSpawningPool
@1:21 M:29 G:0 L:3 S:10/10 BuildExtractor
@1:29 M:53 G:0 L:3 S/10 BuildDrone
@1:44 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:45 M:100 G:0 L:3 S:10/10 BuildOverlord
@1:46 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:51 Spawned: Extractor+1
@1:57 M:80 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 ExtractorTrick
@1:57 M:55 G:0 L:2 S/10 BuildDrone
@1:57 M:5 G:0 L:1 S:10/10 MineGas
@1:59 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@1:59 Mining: +1 on gas
@2:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:10 Spawned: Overlord+1
@2:10 M:103 G:7 L:2 S:11/18 BuildDrone
@2:10 M:53 G:7 L:1 S:12/18 MineGas
@2:10 M:53 G:7 L:1 S:12/18 BuildDrone
@2:12 Mining: +1 on gas
@2:14 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:19 M:54 G:19 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone
@2:22 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1
@2:27 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:27 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:27 M:52 G:30 L:0 S:14/18 MineGas
@2:29 Mining: +1 on gas
@2:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:36 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:41 M:150 G:56 L:1 S:14/18 BuildQueen
@2:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:48 M:53 G:69 L:2 S:16/18 BuildDrone
@2:55 M:56 G:82 L:1 S:17/18 BuildDrone
@3:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:05 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:05 M:82 G:101 L:1 S:18/18 ExtractorTrick
@3:05 M:57 G:101 L:1 S:17/18 BuildDrone
@3:07 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@3:12 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:15 M:109 G:120 L:1 S:19/18 BuildOverlord
@3:22 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:31 Spawned: Queen+1
@3:40 Spawned: Overlord+1
@3:40 M:245 G:168 L:1 S:19/26 BuildDrone
@3:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:45 M:243 G:177 L:1 S:20/26 BuildZergling
@3:57 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:00 M:340 G:206 L:1 S:21/26 BuildZergling
@4:00 M:290 G:206 L:0 S:22/26 Metabolic Boost
@4:09 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:15 M:345 G:134 L:1 S:22/26 BuildZergling
@4:15 M:295 G:134 L:0 S:23/26 BuildLair
@4:16 Spawned: Larva+4
@4:16 M:155 G:36 L:4 S:23/26 BuildZergling
@4:16 M:105 G:36 L:3 S:24/26 BuildOverlord
@4:21 M:57 G:46 L:2 S:24/26 BuildZergling
@4:24 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:26 M:58 G:55 L:1 S:25/26 BuildZergling
@4:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:35 M:101 G:72 L:1 S:26/26 BuildOverlord
@4:39 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:40 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:41 Spawned: Overlord+1
@4:45 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:45 M:105 G1 L:1 S:26/34 BuildZergling
@4:50 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:00 Spawned: Overlord+1
@5:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:00 M:210 G:120 L:1 S:27/42 BuildZergling
@5:01 Spawned: Larva+4
@5:01 M:170 G:122 L:4 S:28/42 BuildZergling
@5:01 M:120 G:122 L:3 S:29/42 BuildZergling
@5:01 M:70 G:122 L:2 S:30/42 BuildZergling
@5:04 M:51 G:127 L:1 S:31/42 BuildZergling
@5:09 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:15 M:115 G:148 L:1 S:32/42 BuildZergling
@5:24 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:25 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:25 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:25 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:28 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:30 M:220 G:177 L:1 S:33/42 BuildZergling
@5:35 Spawned: Lairs+1
@5:39 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:45 M:325 G:205 L:1 S:34/42 BuildZergling
@5:45 M:275 G:205 L:0 S:35/42 BuildNydusNetwork
@5:46 Spawned: Larva+4
@5:46 M:134 G:7 L:4 S:34/42 BuildZergling
@5:46 M:84 G:7 L:3 S:35/42 BuildZergling
@5:48 M:54 G:11 L:2 S:36/42 BuildZergling
@5:50 Evolved: Metabolic Boost
@5:53 M:52 G:20 L:1 S:37/42 BuildZergling
@5:54 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:00 M:70 G:34 L:1 S:38/42 BuildZergling
@6:09 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:10 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:10 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:12 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:15 M:165 G:62 L:1 S:39/42 BuildZergling
@6:17 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:24 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:30 M:260 G1 L:1 S:40/42 BuildZergling
@6:31 Spawned: Larva+4
@6:31 M:219 G3 L:4 S:41/42 BuildZergling
@6:31 M:169 G3 L:3 S:42/42 ExtractorTrick
@6:31 M:144 G3 L:3 S:41/42 BuildZergling
@6:33 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@6:35 Spawned: Nydus Network+1
@6:35 M:151 G:100 L:2 S:43/42 BuildNydusWorm
@6:39 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:54 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:55 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:55 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:55 Spawned: Nydus Worm+1
Satisfied.
Number of actions in build order: 63
-------Goal-------
Zerglings: 48
Gas Extractors: 1
Nydus Networks: 1
Nydus Worms: 1
Metabolic Boost
---Final Output---
At time: 6:55
Minerals: 245 Gas: 38 Supply: 43/42 Larva: 3
Drones: 17
Overlords: 5
Queens: 1
Zerglings: 48
Lairs: 1
Gas Extractors: 1
Spawning Pools: 1
Nydus Networks: 1
Nydus Worms: 1
Metabolic Boost
------------------
Sat Nov 06 21:07:03 PDT 2010: 600009.0579184205


You use the extractor trick at 4 different points!

10 extractor Trick
11 Pool
10 Extractor
10 Overlord
10 Extractor trick
10 Drone on gas
12 Drone on gas
14 Drone on gas
14 Queen
18 Extractor trick
19 Overlord
20 Stop drones, start zerglings only from here on out
22 Zergling Speed
23 Lair
24 Overlord
26 Overlord
35 Nydus Network
42 Extractor trick
43 Nydus Worm

Nydus Worm finishes just before 7 minutes.

Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
November 07 2010 05:41 GMT
#956
On November 07 2010 13:21 Dionyseus wrote:
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On November 07 2010 13:11 InfiniteIce wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:34 Dionyseus wrote:
On November 07 2010 08:32 Rahlekk wrote:
My bug is that the program does fit on my screen, so I can't get to the calculate button or whatever.

When I make it smaller, there's no vertical scroll bar. D:


Yes I posted about that a page or two ago, this only happened to me in the new version, v20. Sometimes closing and reopening the program helps a little.


I also have this issue (program won't show start/stop buttons on top.) This includes when I have maximized it to it's full size on my resolution, including dragging the window down and making it larger repeatedly. My resolution is 1366x768. It's slightly worse on a 1280x720.

New since 0020, was fine in 0017.

Edit: It's already an issue reported here: http://code.google.com/p/evolutionchamber/issues/detail?id=123#c4 for another, smaller resolution.

Edit two: It seems there are quite a few people that reported this issue already: http://code.google.com/p/evolutionchamber/updates/list


My resolution is 1280x1024 so that's one of the affected resolutions as well.


I noticed that if you put the executable in another folder, you'll be able to see the buttons again. I guess the position of these buttons gets messed up when you minimize the program or something,
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gotlucky
Profile Joined May 2010
United States60 Posts
November 07 2010 06:27 GMT
#957
On November 07 2010 14:26 Plutonium wrote:
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On November 07 2010 13:32 tsuxiit wrote:
I just destroyed three or four 2k diamond Terrans with this speedling nydus build the program designed (that's really annoying to execute perfectly and is vulnerable to early pressure, but ridiculously effective). It's hilarious. It's a pretty fragile build until about 5 minutes, but if you are actually able to execute it unmolested you'll pretty much win 100%.

edit: I'll copy it here (annotated with additional improvements):
+ Show Spoiler +
@0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone
@0:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:17 M:54 G:0 L:3 S:7/10 BuildDrone
@0:27 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone
@0:32 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:34 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:38 M:55 G:0 L:2 S/10 BuildDrone
@0:44 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:47 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:55 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:55 M:103 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 BuildOverlord
@1:02 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:17 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:20 Spawned: Overlord+1
@1:20 M:173 G:0 L:3 S:10/18 BuildDrone
@1:20 M:123 G:0 L:2 S:11/18 BuildDrone
@1:20 M:73 G:0 L:1 S:12/18 BuildExtractor
@1:21 M:54 G:0 L:1 S:11/18 BuildDrone
@1:35 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:35 M:89 G:0 L:1 S:12/18 BuildDrone
@1:37 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:37 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:38 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:50 Spawned: Extractor+1
@1:50 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:50 M:157 G:0 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone
@1:50 M:107 G:0 L:0 S:14/18 MineGas
@1:52 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:52 Mining: +1 on gas
@2:02 M:204 G:6 L:0 S:14/18 BuildSpawningPool
@2:05 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:07 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:20 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:35 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:38 M:300 G:29 L:3 S:13/18 BuildHatchery
@2:38 M:0 G:29 L:3 S:12/18 MineGas
@2:40 Mining: +1 on gas
@2:46 M:54 G:39 L:3 S:12/18 BuildDrone
@2:53 M:52 G:49 L:2 S:13/18 BuildDrone
@3:00 M:50 G:59 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone
@3:00 M:0 G:59 L:0 S:15/18 MineGas (these weird drone gas timings are the most irritating part of this build, but they do shave off about 4 seconds from the final zerglings' pop time)
@3:01 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:02 Mining: +1 on gas
@3:03 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:07 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1
@3:08 M:52 G:73 L:1 S:15/18 BuildDrone
@3:10 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:16 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:16 M:60 G:88 L:1 S:16/18 BuildDrone
@3:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:25 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:31 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:31 M:137 G:117 L:1 S:17/18 BuildDrone
@3:33 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:46 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:46 M:230 G:145 L:1 S:18/18 BuildOverlord
@3:48 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:49 M:159 G:151 L:0 S:18/18 BuildLair
@4:01 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:11 Spawned: Overlord+1
@4:11 M:236 G3 L:1 S:18/26 BuildDrone
@4:16 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:16 M:238 G:102 L:1 S:19/26 BuildDrone
@4:18 Spawned: Hatchery+1
@4:28 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:31 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:31 M:341 G:131 L:2 S:20/28 BuildDrone
@4:31 M:291 G:131 L:1 S:21/28 BuildQueen
@4:31 M:141 G:131 L:1 S:23/28 BuildDrone
@4:33 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:46 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:46 M:260 G:159 L:2 S:24/28 BuildOverlord
@4:46 M:160 G:159 L:1 S:24/28 BuildOverlord
@4:48 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:48 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:50 M:107 G:167 L:0 S:24/28 Metabolic Boost (I see zero benefit to actually getting both these two overlords before ling speed, so I just get one, then speed, then the other)
@5:01 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:01 M:149 G:88 L:2 S:24/28 BuildZergling
@5:01 M9 G:88 L:1 S:25/28 BuildZergling
@5:09 Spawned: Lairs+1
@5:11 Spawned: Overlord+1
@5:11 Spawned: Overlord+1
@5:16 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:16 M:243 G:116 L:2 S:26/44 BuildZergling
@5:16 M:193 G:116 L:1 S:27/44 BuildZergling
@5:21 Spawned: Queen+1
@5:25 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:25 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:31 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:31 M:337 G:145 L:2 S:28/44 BuildZergling
@5:31 M:287 G:145 L:1 S:29/44 BuildZergling
@5:40 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:40 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:46 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:46 M:430 G:173 L:2 S:30/44 BuildZergling
@5:46 M:380 G:173 L:1 S:31/44 BuildZergling
@5:55 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:55 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:01 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:01 M:524 G:202 L:2 S:32/44 BuildZergling
@6:01 M:474 G:202 L:1 S:33/44 BuildZergling
@6:01 M:424 G:202 L:0 S:34/44 BuildNydusNetwork (It's best to have an overlord off to the side of your main when lair pops or you get around 150 gas so you can build the nydus on the generated creep to avoid scans)
@6:06 Spawned: Larva+4
@6:06 M:335 G:11 L:4 S:33/44 BuildZergling
@6:06 M:285 G:11 L:3 S:34/44 BuildZergling
@6:06 M:235 G:11 L:2 S:35/44 BuildZergling
@6:06 M:185 G:11 L:1 S:36/44 BuildZergling
@6:10 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:10 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:16 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:16 M:257 G:30 L:2 S:37/44 BuildZergling
@6:16 M:207 G:30 L:1 S:38/44 BuildZergling
@6:25 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:25 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:30 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:30 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:30 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:30 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:31 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:31 M:339 G:59 L:2 S:39/44 BuildZergling
@6:31 M:289 G:59 L:1 S:40/44 BuildZergling
@6:40 Evolved: Metabolic Boost
@6:40 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:40 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:46 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:46 M:422 G:87 L:2 S:41/44 BuildZergling
@6:46 M:372 G:87 L:1 S:42/44 BuildZergling
@6:51 Spawned: Nydus Network+1
@6:51 Spawned: Larva+4
@6:51 M:382 G7 L:4 S:43/44 BuildZergling
@6:51 M:332 G7 L:3 S:44/44 ExtractorTrick
@6:51 M:307 G7 L:3 S:43/44 BuildZergling
@6:51 M:257 G7 L:2 S:44/44 ExtractorTrick
@6:51 M:232 G7 L:2 S:43/44 ExtractorTrick
@6:51 M:207 G7 L:2 S:42/44 MineMineral
@6:51 M:207 G7 L:2 S:42/44 BuildZergling
@6:51 M:157 G7 L:1 S:43/44 BuildZergling
@6:53 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@6:53 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@6:53 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored (I like to do the triple extractor trick just because I want them to watch the replay, but just making an overlord and droning up is as valid an immediate followup as just pumping more and more lings into their base in 90% of situations)
@6:53 Mining: +1 on minerals
@6:53 M:187 G:100 L:0 S:47/44 BuildNydusWorm
@6:55 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:55 Spawned: Zergling+2
@7:01 Spawned: Larva+1
@7:10 Spawned: Zergling+2
@7:10 Spawned: Zergling+2
@7:13 Spawned: Nydus Worm+1
@7:15 Spawned: Zergling+2
@7:15 Spawned: Zergling+2
@7:15 Spawned: Zergling+2
@7:15 Spawned: Zergling+2
Satisfied.
Number of actions in build order: 66
-------Goal-------
Zerglings: 48
Gas Extractors: 1
Nydus Networks: 1
Nydus Worms: 1
Metabolic Boost
---Final Output---
At time: 7:15
Minerals: 372 Gas: 30 Supply: 47/44 Larva: 2
Drones: 21
Overlords: 5
Queens: 1
Zerglings: 48
Hatcheries: 1
Lairs: 1
Gas Extractors: 1
Spawning Pools: 1
Nydus Networks: 1
Nydus Worms: 1
Metabolic Boost
------------------
Sat Nov 06 11:34:46 CDT 2010: 547911.4730083235


I found a 48 zergling/nydus build that's almost 20 seconds faster than that!

+ Show Spoiler +
@0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone
@0:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:17 M:54 G:0 L:3 S:7/10 BuildDrone
@0:27 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone
@0:32 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:34 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:38 M:55 G:0 L:2 S/10 BuildDrone
@0:44 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:47 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:51 M:78 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 ExtractorTrick
@0:51 M:53 G:0 L:2 S/10 BuildDrone
@0:53 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@0:55 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:02 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:08 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:17 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:17 M:202 G:0 L:3 S:11/10 BuildSpawningPool
@1:21 M:29 G:0 L:3 S:10/10 BuildExtractor
@1:29 M:53 G:0 L:3 S/10 BuildDrone
@1:44 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:45 M:100 G:0 L:3 S:10/10 BuildOverlord
@1:46 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:51 Spawned: Extractor+1
@1:57 M:80 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 ExtractorTrick
@1:57 M:55 G:0 L:2 S/10 BuildDrone
@1:57 M:5 G:0 L:1 S:10/10 MineGas
@1:59 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@1:59 Mining: +1 on gas
@2:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:10 Spawned: Overlord+1
@2:10 M:103 G:7 L:2 S:11/18 BuildDrone
@2:10 M:53 G:7 L:1 S:12/18 MineGas
@2:10 M:53 G:7 L:1 S:12/18 BuildDrone
@2:12 Mining: +1 on gas
@2:14 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:19 M:54 G:19 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone
@2:22 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1
@2:27 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:27 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:27 M:52 G:30 L:0 S:14/18 MineGas
@2:29 Mining: +1 on gas
@2:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:36 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:41 M:150 G:56 L:1 S:14/18 BuildQueen
@2:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:48 M:53 G:69 L:2 S:16/18 BuildDrone
@2:55 M:56 G:82 L:1 S:17/18 BuildDrone
@3:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:05 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:05 M:82 G:101 L:1 S:18/18 ExtractorTrick
@3:05 M:57 G:101 L:1 S:17/18 BuildDrone
@3:07 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@3:12 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:15 M:109 G:120 L:1 S:19/18 BuildOverlord
@3:22 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:31 Spawned: Queen+1
@3:40 Spawned: Overlord+1
@3:40 M:245 G:168 L:1 S:19/26 BuildDrone
@3:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:45 M:243 G:177 L:1 S:20/26 BuildZergling
@3:57 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:00 M:340 G:206 L:1 S:21/26 BuildZergling
@4:00 M:290 G:206 L:0 S:22/26 Metabolic Boost
@4:09 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:15 M:345 G:134 L:1 S:22/26 BuildZergling
@4:15 M:295 G:134 L:0 S:23/26 BuildLair
@4:16 Spawned: Larva+4
@4:16 M:155 G:36 L:4 S:23/26 BuildZergling
@4:16 M:105 G:36 L:3 S:24/26 BuildOverlord
@4:21 M:57 G:46 L:2 S:24/26 BuildZergling
@4:24 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:26 M:58 G:55 L:1 S:25/26 BuildZergling
@4:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:35 M:101 G:72 L:1 S:26/26 BuildOverlord
@4:39 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:40 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:41 Spawned: Overlord+1
@4:45 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:45 M:105 G1 L:1 S:26/34 BuildZergling
@4:50 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:00 Spawned: Overlord+1
@5:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:00 M:210 G:120 L:1 S:27/42 BuildZergling
@5:01 Spawned: Larva+4
@5:01 M:170 G:122 L:4 S:28/42 BuildZergling
@5:01 M:120 G:122 L:3 S:29/42 BuildZergling
@5:01 M:70 G:122 L:2 S:30/42 BuildZergling
@5:04 M:51 G:127 L:1 S:31/42 BuildZergling
@5:09 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:15 M:115 G:148 L:1 S:32/42 BuildZergling
@5:24 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:25 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:25 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:25 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:28 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:30 M:220 G:177 L:1 S:33/42 BuildZergling
@5:35 Spawned: Lairs+1
@5:39 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:45 M:325 G:205 L:1 S:34/42 BuildZergling
@5:45 M:275 G:205 L:0 S:35/42 BuildNydusNetwork
@5:46 Spawned: Larva+4
@5:46 M:134 G:7 L:4 S:34/42 BuildZergling
@5:46 M:84 G:7 L:3 S:35/42 BuildZergling
@5:48 M:54 G:11 L:2 S:36/42 BuildZergling
@5:50 Evolved: Metabolic Boost
@5:53 M:52 G:20 L:1 S:37/42 BuildZergling
@5:54 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:00 M:70 G:34 L:1 S:38/42 BuildZergling
@6:09 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:10 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:10 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:12 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:15 M:165 G:62 L:1 S:39/42 BuildZergling
@6:17 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:24 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:30 M:260 G1 L:1 S:40/42 BuildZergling
@6:31 Spawned: Larva+4
@6:31 M:219 G3 L:4 S:41/42 BuildZergling
@6:31 M:169 G3 L:3 S:42/42 ExtractorTrick
@6:31 M:144 G3 L:3 S:41/42 BuildZergling
@6:33 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@6:35 Spawned: Nydus Network+1
@6:35 M:151 G:100 L:2 S:43/42 BuildNydusWorm
@6:39 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:54 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:55 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:55 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:55 Spawned: Nydus Worm+1
Satisfied.
Number of actions in build order: 63
-------Goal-------
Zerglings: 48
Gas Extractors: 1
Nydus Networks: 1
Nydus Worms: 1
Metabolic Boost
---Final Output---
At time: 6:55
Minerals: 245 Gas: 38 Supply: 43/42 Larva: 3
Drones: 17
Overlords: 5
Queens: 1
Zerglings: 48
Lairs: 1
Gas Extractors: 1
Spawning Pools: 1
Nydus Networks: 1
Nydus Worms: 1
Metabolic Boost
------------------
Sat Nov 06 21:07:03 PDT 2010: 600009.0579184205


You use the extractor trick at 4 different points!

10 extractor Trick
11 Pool
10 Extractor
10 Overlord
10 Extractor trick
10 Drone on gas
12 Drone on gas
14 Drone on gas
14 Queen
18 Extractor trick
19 Overlord
20 Stop drones, start zerglings only from here on out
22 Zergling Speed
23 Lair
24 Overlord
26 Overlord
35 Nydus Network
42 Extractor trick
43 Nydus Worm

Nydus Worm finishes just before 7 minutes.


I found one even faster than yours! It finishes at 6:52. I haven't yet tried any of them, but I will give them a shot tomorrow.
This is the detailed format:
+ Show Spoiler +
@0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone
@0:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:17 M:54 G:0 L:3 S:7/10 BuildDrone
@0:27 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone
@0:32 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:34 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:44 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:47 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:47 M:104 G:0 L:3 S/10 BuildOverlord
@0:55 M:53 G:0 L:2 S/10 BuildDrone
@1:02 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:12 Spawned: Overlord+1
@1:12 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:12 M:106 G:0 L:2 S:10/18 BuildDrone
@1:12 M:56 G:0 L:1 S:11/18 BuildDrone
@1:17 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:19 M:53 G:0 L:1 S:12/18 BuildDrone
@1:29 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:29 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:32 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:32 M5 G:0 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone
@1:32 M:45 G:0 L:0 S:14/18 BuildExtractor
@1:36 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:47 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:47 M:141 G:0 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone
@1:49 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:02 Spawned: Extractor+1
@2:02 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:02 M:224 G:0 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone
@2:02 M:174 G:0 L:0 S:15/18 MineGas
@2:02 M:174 G:0 L:0 S:15/18 MineGas
@2:04 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:04 Mining: +1 on gas
@2:04 Mining: +1 on gas
@2:06 M:205 G:4 L:0 S:15/18 BuildSpawningPool
@2:17 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:17 M:89 G:19 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone
@2:17 M:39 G:19 L:0 S:15/18 MineGas
@2:19 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:19 Mining: +1 on gas
@2:32 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:32 M:150 G:47 L:1 S:15/18 BuildDrone
@2:34 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:47 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:47 M:223 G:75 L:1 S:16/18 BuildOverlord
@2:49 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:02 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:02 M:256 G:104 L:1 S:16/18 BuildOverlord
@3:11 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1
@3:12 Spawned: Overlord+1
@3:17 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:17 M:291 G:132 L:1 S:16/26 BuildOverlord
@3:17 M:191 G:132 L:0 S:16/26 BuildQueen
@3:27 Spawned: Overlord+1
@3:32 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:32 M:176 G:161 L:1 S:18/34 BuildZergling
@3:42 Spawned: Overlord+1
@3:47 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:47 M:261 G:189 L:1 S:19/42 BuildZergling
@3:47 M:211 G:189 L:0 S:20/42 Metabolic Boost
@3:56 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:02 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:02 M:246 G:118 L:1 S:20/42 BuildZergling
@4:07 Spawned: Queen+1
@4:11 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:11 M:277 G:135 L:0 S:21/42 BuildLair
@4:17 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:17 M:181 G:46 L:1 S:21/42 BuildZergling
@4:26 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:32 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:32 M:266 G:75 L:1 S:22/42 BuildZergling
@4:41 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:47 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:47 M:351 G:103 L:1 S:23/42 BuildZergling
@4:52 Spawned: Larva+4
@4:52 M:346 G:113 L:4 S:24/42 BuildZergling
@4:52 M:296 G:113 L:3 S:25/42 BuildZergling
@4:56 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:56 M:282 G:120 L:2 S:26/42 BuildZergling
@4:56 M:232 G:120 L:1 S:27/42 BuildZergling
@5:02 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:02 M:236 G:132 L:1 S:28/42 BuildZergling
@5:11 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:16 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:16 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:17 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:17 M:321 G:160 L:1 S:29/42 BuildZergling
@5:20 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:20 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:26 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:31 Spawned: Lairs+1
@5:32 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:32 M:406 G:189 L:1 S:30/42 BuildZergling
@5:37 Evolved: Metabolic Boost
@5:37 Spawned: Larva+4
@5:38 M:410 G:200 L:4 S:31/42 BuildNydusNetwork
@5:38 M:260 G:0 L:4 S:30/42 BuildZergling
@5:38 M:210 G:0 L:3 S:31/42 BuildZergling
@5:38 M:160 G:0 L:2 S:32/42 BuildZergling
@5:38 M:110 G:0 L:1 S:33/42 BuildZergling
@5:41 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:47 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:47 M:135 G:17 L:1 S:34/42 BuildZergling
@5:56 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:02 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:02 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:02 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:02 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:02 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:02 M:210 G:46 L:1 S:35/42 BuildZergling
@6:11 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:17 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:17 M:285 G:74 L:1 S:36/42 BuildZergling
@6:22 Spawned: Larva+4
@6:22 M:277 G:84 L:4 S:37/42 BuildZergling
@6:22 M:227 G:84 L:3 S:38/42 BuildZergling
@6:22 M:177 G:84 L:2 S:39/42 BuildZergling
@6:22 M:127 G:84 L:1 S:40/42 BuildZergling
@6:26 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:28 Spawned: Nydus Network+1
@6:32 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:32 M:160 G:103 L:1 S:41/42 BuildDrone
@6:32 M:110 G:103 L:0 S:42/42 BuildNydusWorm
@6:41 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:46 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:46 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:46 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:46 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:47 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:49 Spawned: Drone+1
@6:52 Spawned: Nydus Worm+1
Satisfied.
Number of actions in build order: 56
-------Goal-------
Zerglings: 48
Gas Extractors: 1
Nydus Networks: 1
Nydus Worms: 1
Metabolic Boost
---Final Output---
At time: 6:52
Minerals: 178 Gas: 41 Supply: 42/42 Larva: 1
Drones: 16
Overlords: 5
Queens: 1
Zerglings: 48
Lairs: 1
Gas Extractors: 1
Spawning Pools: 1
Nydus Networks: 1
Nydus Worms: 1
Metabolic Boost
------------------

This is the simple format:
+ Show Spoiler +
9 Overlord M:104 G:0
14 Extractor M:45 G:0
15 +1 Drone on gas M:174 G:0
15 +1 Drone on gas M:174 G:0
15 SpawningPool M:205 G:4
15 +1 Drone on gas M:39 G:19
16 Overlord M:223 G:75
16 Overlord M:256 G:104
16 Overlord M:291 G:132
16 Queen M:191 G:132
18 Zergling M:176 G:161
19 Zergling M:261 G:189
20 MetabolicBoost M:211 G:189
20 Zergling M:246 G:118
21 Lair M:277 G:135
21 Zergling M:181 G:46
22 Zergling M:266 G:75
23 Zergling M:351 G:103
24 Zergling M:346 G:113
25 Zergling M:296 G:113
26 Zergling M:282 G:120
27 Zergling M:232 G:120
28 Zergling M:236 G:132
29 Zergling M:321 G:160
30 Zergling M:406 G:189
31 NydusNetwork M:410 G:200
30 Zergling M:260 G:0
31 Zergling M:210 G:0
32 Zergling M:160 G:0
33 Zergling M:110 G:0
34 Zergling M:135 G:17
35 Zergling M:210 G:46
36 Zergling M:285 G:74
37 Zergling M:277 G:84
38 Zergling M:227 G:84
39 Zergling M:177 G:84
40 Zergling M:127 G:84
42 NydusWorm M:110 G:103
The Touch
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom667 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 10:23:34
November 07 2010 10:22 GMT
#958
On November 07 2010 13:04 InfiniteIce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 07:03 PhilDK wrote:
How to run this program, I can't get it to work on my mac


Read the OP.

Install the Java VM. Then run this program. All the details you need are in the google code page.
Java works on all platforms because it is run in a VM.


The only way I've managed to get the program running in Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit is to use the command line method outlined a couple of pages ago. I set up a .bat file with:

cd\users\MY USER NAME\desktop\stuff\sc2
java -jar evolutionchamber-version-0020.jar


Doiuble-click the .bat file and the program runs.

Any attempt to just associate the jar file with java.exe (or indeed any of the javaXX.exe files in the folder) results in a short-lived command prompt that ends with an error message saying the program is exiting.
You Got The Touch
Noterist
Profile Joined October 2010
13 Posts
November 07 2010 20:20 GMT
#959
I see there's already a note about it on googlecode, but I'm having a real problem with the program ignoring waypoints.

I prefer to use the program as a "smart route to midgame" finder and not to find ridiculously fast rushes. Therefore I tend to use all the waypoints whenever I use the program.I really want to use the newer versions for their "worker parity" option, but this issue is generally making the program useless for my needs.

Awesome work by the way! Not complaining, just hoping that this issue is a top priority
Bumblebees
Profile Joined August 2010
United States328 Posts
November 07 2010 20:28 GMT
#960
On November 08 2010 05:20 Noterist wrote:
I see there's already a note about it on googlecode, but I'm having a real problem with the program ignoring waypoints.

I prefer to use the program as a "smart route to midgame" finder and not to find ridiculously fast rushes. Therefore I tend to use all the waypoints whenever I use the program.I really want to use the newer versions for their "worker parity" option, but this issue is generally making the program useless for my needs.

Awesome work by the way! Not complaining, just hoping that this issue is a top priority


Can you give an example build you're inputting into 0020 that's making it ignore waypoints?
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