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[Interview] GSL Ro8 Winners

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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 19:43:14
September 28 2010 19:29 GMT
#1
Too lazy to put in pictures since I'm on my tiny netbook with a terrible touch pad and tiny screen, not emotionally prepared to go through hassle of adding pictures. If you wanna look at Korean nerds go look in the Nada's Body thread in BW or something xP

LiveForever
Thoughts on making the Ro4?
-I thought I'd lose, I couldn't even believe it myself when I won. If the openings were similar, because Maka is a stronger player, I felt I'd be disadvantaged. Luckily I could defend his all-in in game 2, otherwise I really didn't have the confidence to win.

You were limited by your opponent all throughout game 1.
-I made some big mistakes when microing the drop. Even though I knew then that I couldn't win, I thought I couldn't give up so early, so I kept going for a bit.

You defended an all-in in game 2.
-I saw VODs of Maka's games in the Blizzcon Invitational qualifiers, so I thought there could be an all in rush.

The opponent saw your Bunker but still chose to attack.
-Even if there are 2 Bunkers on the high ground, without tanks, you can't hold the ramp. So I chose to make tanks, which was key to victory.

You used a Thor + Marine rush in game 3.
-I saw people use it in games before, and thought it was good, so I used it.

Are your confident for the Ro4?
-A lot of people were waiting for a Cool-Maka semifinal, but unfortunately Cool's opponent is now me. I'm sorry to those fans, but since I advanced, I will do my best.

You already guaranteed 10 million won in prize money [T/N: ~8700USD]
-The computer at home broke, I need to buy a new computer first [laugh]

How do you plan on preparing for the Ro4?
-The games are tomorrow, so I can't prepare fully. It'll be a battle of the basics.

Thoughts on the Ro4?
-To be honest I didn't have expectations for today's games. It'll be the same tomorrow, I'll just do my best.

http://s.163.com/10/0928/20/6HMOBHDC00314JJA.html

Cool

Thoughts on making the Ro4?
-I'm very excited. I thought I could get eliminated this time, but I played with the must-win mentality.

You 6 pooled in game 1.
-I feel like it's a good strategy. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too.[/b]

You FE'ed in game 2.
-If the opponent 2 gates or cannon rushes it'd be hard to defend, so I had wanted to get lings earlier. But when the game started I suddenly felt confident enough to defend it. Because the lings killed the Zealots, I was able to get Banelings.

You're the only Zerg in the Ro4.
-ZvP is still very hard, but I'm confident in my ZvT. But it seems Ultralisks got nerfed yet again today, I maybe ZvT will become harder.

Will you be confident in the Ro4?
-As long as they don't patch again I'm confident. I'll succeed if I work hard [laugh]

You might meet sSKS in the finals.
-After the prelims I told him I wished to meet him in the finals, and seeing the brackets, it was possible. I wasn't confident at first, but I'm still in the Ro4 now.

The opponent left without GG.
-After the game ended he PMed me and said he was confused, so he didn't GG, and apologized. I think it's because he was rushed in both games, I can understand.

The semifinals are Bo5.
-It's true the maps are bad for Zerg, but I'll try my best.[/b]

Last words?
-EternalPrime, who I eliminated in the Ro64 helped me practice a lot, and was really dedicated. Thanks to him.

http://s.163.com/10/0928/19/6HMKQNP000314CVO.html

HopeTorture

Thoughts on beating sSKS and making the Ro4?
-The games all went according to plan. I didn't have time to prepare for game 3, so I'm glad it ended 2-0.

The opponent used Void Rays in game 1.
-The teammate I practiced with can only use Void Rays, after practicing with him, I'm immune to Void Rays.

You were always on the offensive in game 2.
-I wanted to end it 2-0. I didn't even expand, so I couldn't let my opponent have his natural, so I kept pressuring him.

Who do you want to play in the Ro4?
-I hope for a Protoss. I always discuss strategies with Ensnare, so if I play with him, there'd be no secrets. It'd be harder to prepare.

Some people hope you switch to Protoss.
-Protoss is much stronger than in BW, so I don't really care if I play Protoss. But when I first picked race I saw no one else was playing Terran, so I chose it. Now I'm familiar with Terran, so I don't want to change races. I think Terran is the strongest.

During BW I kept saying Terran was too hard, and Boxer-hyung kept joking and telling me to switch to Terran. Now I'm playing Terran in SC2, I'm finally experiencing it. Besides TvT, everything is easy.

This is your best result as a progamer.
-A lot of players with a chance to do even better didn't participate, so even if I win I don't think I'm very strong. There'll be even stronger people participating in the future, so I can't be satisfied with my current results and I'll need to work harder.

Now you're playing Bo5s.
-Bo5 emphasizes basics and mind games.

Last words?
-Thanks to all my teammates who helped me practice, I'll repay them by winning. Go Startale!

http://s.163.com/10/0928/19/6HMMGFT900314JJA.html

Ensnare

You won with ease.
-True. It's because the Hellions that I made only for scouting got a lot, so I was able to win with ease.

Your opponent in the Ro4 is HopeTorture.
-The opponent is strong, but I'll prioritize enjoying the games.

The semis are Bo5, do you have any good strategies?
-I haven't thought about it yet, but Hope-hyung has very aggressive, so I think if I can defend and drag it to late game I'd be good.

You ensured 10 million won prize money.
-I don't have much to say about that. I just want to enjoy SC2, enjoy happy times.

It can be a TvT finals.
-I think Cool will win, so it won't be TvT. In Bo5, mind games are important, and Cool-hyung has the advantage of progaming experience, so he has a big advantage.

You're in the Ro4, are you satisfied?
-I'm in the upper levels of the rankings, as long as I don't lose to players who are around my level or below, I'm satisfied. It seems I can be satisfied now.

Last words?
-I defeated many Protosses to get to the Ro4, I'll treat them to meals [laugh]

http://s.163.com/10/0928/20/6HMOPEFP00314JJA.html

Original Korean from fomos.kr
TranslatorBaa!
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 19:34:49
September 28 2010 19:34 GMT
#2
THANK YOU CSHEEP
also in the cool one about the GG, I think the original korean says something more like inca said his head hurt because he lost to the same strategy twice in a row, and thus forgot to gg. but you could be right, this is 2nd hand information as i didn't read it myself.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
September 28 2010 19:34 GMT
#3
thanks for the translations im so glad cool won! also glad ensnare and hope made it as well. ^_^
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
September 28 2010 19:34 GMT
#4
"The opponent left without GG.
-After the game ended he PMed me and said he was confused, so he didn't GG, and apologized. I think it's because he was rushed in both games, I can understand."

Wow, this reaffirms that InCa is a great guy, for me at least. I bet all those people posting page after page after page of hate towards him for the "BM" in the live report thread are feeling preeettty silly right about now.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 28 2010 19:37 GMT
#5
Nice that Ensnare thinks Cool will beat LiveForever. Former housemates!
Yargh
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
September 28 2010 19:39 GMT
#6
Come on Cool, zerg pride
StarSense
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
206 Posts
September 28 2010 19:39 GMT
#7
I hope Cool walks over LiveForever, and Ensnare fluke wins against Rainbow so Cool will have an easier time. But a Cool-Rainbow final would be epic.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
September 28 2010 19:40 GMT
#8
lol @ IntoTheRainbow saying that all matchups are easy except against another Terran

Thanks for translating!
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
September 28 2010 19:40 GMT
#9
Didnt know hopetorture was in a team! and i knew inca couldnt be a bm player he seemed too cheerful
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
September 28 2010 19:41 GMT
#10
So Rainbow is in StarTale. I thought so, but Tastosis keep saying he's a lone wolf.
greycubed
Profile Joined May 2010
United States615 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 19:45:17
September 28 2010 19:44 GMT
#11
On September 29 2010 04:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:

Cool

Will you be confident in the Ro4?
-As long as they don't patch again I'm confident.

HopeTorture

Besides TvT, everything is easy.

Ensnare

You won with ease.
-True. It's because the Hellions that I made only for scouting got a lot, so I was able to win with ease.

http://i.imgur.com/N3ujB.png
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
September 28 2010 19:45 GMT
#12
well looks like rainbow is in STARTALE
savior did nothing wrong
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
September 28 2010 19:46 GMT
#13
On September 29 2010 04:44 wrgrbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 04:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:

Cool

Will you be confident in the Ro4?
-As long as they don't patch again I'm confident.

HopeTorture

Besides TvT, everything is easy.

Ensnare

You won with ease.
-True. It's because the Hellions that I made only for scouting got a lot, so I was able to win with ease.



i like how you conveniently left out the part were cool said he was very confident in zvt
savior did nothing wrong
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
September 28 2010 19:46 GMT
#14
"Besides TvT, everything is easy."
I wonder if he reads teamliquid so he can play the opinion to his fans.
Him vs Cool in the finals would be pretty awesome, unfortunately HopeTorture is pretty abusive in ZvT (which isn't a bad thing), Cool will have to come up with a crazy plan to get through, much harder to 6 pool a terran :-).
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
September 28 2010 19:47 GMT
#15
yeah finally some interesting Sc2 Interviews thx for translating. Also I got a new quote :D
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
September 28 2010 19:48 GMT
#16
On September 29 2010 04:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
You might meet sSKS in the finals.
-After the prelims I told him I wished to meet him in the finals, and seeing the brackets, it was possible. I wasn't confident at first, but I'm still in the Ro4 now.


Wait, actually, this doesn't make sense.

Were the interviews done immediately after the games or something (but before the next game could be played)?
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
September 28 2010 19:51 GMT
#17
I just noticed I dont know NOTHING about koreans
Everyone I thought were sure wins lost ...
Clide, Tester and OGS TOP being truly amazing loses since they were so godly against other oponents
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 19:51:52
September 28 2010 19:51 GMT
#18
Great interview.

You might meet sSKS in the finals. (to cool)

This kinda confused me :o
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 28 2010 19:51 GMT
#19
On September 29 2010 04:48 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 04:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
You might meet sSKS in the finals.
-After the prelims I told him I wished to meet him in the finals, and seeing the brackets, it was possible. I wasn't confident at first, but I'm still in the Ro4 now.


Wait, actually, this doesn't make sense.

Were the interviews done immediately after the games or something (but before the next game could be played)?


These are the translated korean interviews after the games, I believe.
Yargh
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
September 28 2010 19:51 GMT
#20
On September 29 2010 04:48 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 04:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
You might meet sSKS in the finals.
-After the prelims I told him I wished to meet him in the finals, and seeing the brackets, it was possible. I wasn't confident at first, but I'm still in the Ro4 now.


Wait, actually, this doesn't make sense.

Were the interviews done immediately after the games or something (but before the next game could be played)?


I am guessing they interviewed each winner right after their games so sSKS wasn't done his games yet.

I am kinda sad i wont see him in the finals.
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Aikin
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria532 Posts
September 28 2010 19:52 GMT
#21
Rainbow:-The games all went according to plan. I didn't have time to prepare for game 3, so I'm glad it ended 2-0.

o.O Thats some confidence. Yeah I´ll 2-0 tester. Who needs a plan for a 3rd game.
[A]dmiral Bulldog | Naniwa | [A]lliance
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
September 28 2010 19:53 GMT
#22
On September 29 2010 04:48 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 04:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
You might meet sSKS in the finals.
-After the prelims I told him I wished to meet him in the finals, and seeing the brackets, it was possible. I wasn't confident at first, but I'm still in the Ro4 now.


Wait, actually, this doesn't make sense.

Were the interviews done immediately after the games or something (but before the next game could be played)?


Yeah, the interviews were done right after the games, so before sSKS vs HopeTorture was played, so it was still possible when Cool was interviewed.

It's also why HopeTorture said he wanted to play a Protoss since the interview was done before the Ensnare-HongUn game was played.
TranslatorBaa!
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
September 28 2010 19:53 GMT
#23
Ty a lot. Go Cool!

Aslo Korean humbleness never fails to amaze me. Nextliveforever went beyond anyones expectations and still the first thing he does is apologizing to the people who wanted a Maka vs Cool final.
We know nothing.
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
September 28 2010 19:56 GMT
#24
ITR is baller, he's like... super confident...
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
September 28 2010 19:57 GMT
#25
they must have been done right after artosis interviewed them
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
graphene
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland211 Posts
September 28 2010 19:57 GMT
#26
coolrainbow is gonna epic!!!!
cloud computing is the future
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
September 28 2010 19:57 GMT
#27
Thank you very much for the timely translation

On September 29 2010 04:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:

Are your confident for the Ro4?
-A lot of people were waiting for a Cool-Maka semifinal, but unfortunately Cool's opponent is now me. I'm sorry to those fans, but since I advanced, I will do my best.


What a horrible, under-confident answer. This guy needs to build an ego.

"but unfortunately Cool's opponent is now me." seriously?
KTY
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
September 28 2010 19:58 GMT
#28
On September 29 2010 04:57 Xxio wrote:
Thank you very much for the timely translation

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 04:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:

Are your confident for the Ro4?
-A lot of people were waiting for a Cool-Maka semifinal, but unfortunately Cool's opponent is now me. I'm sorry to those fans, but since I advanced, I will do my best.


What a horrible, under-confident answer. This guy needs to build an ego.

"but unfortunately Cool's opponent is now me." seriously?


Kid needs a hug

Really saddened my favorite terran didnt make it.. <3 maka T_T
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
September 28 2010 19:59 GMT
#29
On September 29 2010 04:52 007Kain wrote:
Rainbow:-The games all went according to plan. I didn't have time to prepare for game 3, so I'm glad it ended 2-0.

o.O Thats some confidence. Yeah I´ll 2-0 tester. Who needs a plan for a 3rd game.



He probably had an idea of the build he wanted to do.. just not any real prep time... i mean the ro16 was night before last.. they don't have much time to prepare for opponents

however, I think the case can be made that they knew that this particular matchup in ro8 was most likely when the ro32 ended...
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 28 2010 20:00 GMT
#30
On September 29 2010 04:57 Xxio wrote:
Thank you very much for the timely translation

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 04:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:

Are your confident for the Ro4?
-A lot of people were waiting for a Cool-Maka semifinal, but unfortunately Cool's opponent is now me. I'm sorry to those fans, but since I advanced, I will do my best.


What a horrible, under-confident answer. This guy needs to build an ego.

"but unfortunately Cool's opponent is now me." seriously?


He's just not one to brag. I bet you he's thinking "Yea going to beat this guy!". Not everyone likes to throw their ego around. Some rather like to have no expectations and just keep their personal feelings to themselves.
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
September 28 2010 20:01 GMT
#31
Very excited to see the next round of games, I'm rooting for Cool all the way. Cool v Rainbow is going to be amazing!
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
September 28 2010 20:04 GMT
#32
In which team is ITR?
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
September 28 2010 20:06 GMT
#33
On September 29 2010 05:04 CruelZeratul wrote:
In which team is ITR?

none.
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
September 28 2010 20:06 GMT
#34
http://finance.yahoo.com/currency-converter/#from=USD;to=KRW;amt=8721.4373
wow, and 10kk won seemed like a whole lot of money, not that 8.7k usd isnt but wtf .... =x
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
September 28 2010 20:07 GMT
#35
On September 29 2010 04:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
The opponent left without GG.
-After the game ended he PMed me and said he was confused, so he didn't GG, and apologized. I think it's because he was rushed in both games, I can understand.


Why can't Blizzard just put option like this

"Enable auto gg text when leaving (x)" (if needed maybe you can choose from different versions like "gg wp, gg, etc"

This way players don't need to remember type anything

Even A.I has this, why not players?

CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
September 28 2010 20:09 GMT
#36
On September 29 2010 05:06 Nizaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 05:04 CruelZeratul wrote:
In which team is ITR?

none.


But he was thanking his teammates.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 28 2010 20:10 GMT
#37
On September 29 2010 05:06 Nizaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 05:04 CruelZeratul wrote:
In which team is ITR?

none.


Starlife.

Last words?
-Thanks to all my teammates who helped me practice, I'll repay them by winning. Go Startale!
Yargh
Chaoz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States507 Posts
September 28 2010 20:10 GMT
#38
I'm so sad there's no Protoss in the finals.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
September 28 2010 20:12 GMT
#39
On September 29 2010 05:07 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 04:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
The opponent left without GG.
-After the game ended he PMed me and said he was confused, so he didn't GG, and apologized. I think it's because he was rushed in both games, I can understand.


Why can't Blizzard just put option like this

"Enable auto gg text when leaving (x)" (if needed maybe you can choose from different versions like "gg wp, gg, etc"

This way players don't need to remember type anything

Even A.I has this, why not players?




Typing gg is about the player showing sportsmanship, not some technicality that has to be done. It's like shaking hands after a tennis game or whatever. Having some automatic thing like that would be silly.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 20:13:42
September 28 2010 20:13 GMT
#40
I really hope we get a ZvT final.. not beacuse the game will be better and more enjoyable to watch in the finals, but beacuse I want a zerg to win the first really major sc2 tourney. To show that its possible to overcome imbalance.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 20:18:41
September 28 2010 20:14 GMT
#41
On September 29 2010 05:12 KristianJS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 05:07 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On September 29 2010 04:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
The opponent left without GG.
-After the game ended he PMed me and said he was confused, so he didn't GG, and apologized. I think it's because he was rushed in both games, I can understand.


Why can't Blizzard just put option like this

"Enable auto gg text when leaving (x)" (if needed maybe you can choose from different versions like "gg wp, gg, etc"

This way players don't need to remember type anything

Even A.I has this, why not players?




Typing gg is about the player showing sportsmanship, not some technicality that has to be done. It's like shaking hands after a tennis game or whatever. Having some automatic thing like that would be silly.


Well they type it every game, seems automatic to me.

For me its just indication that game ended without any "technical" problems. Would be odd if opponent leaves without saying it then camera zooms to see if player had some problems which crashed or something.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 28 2010 20:15 GMT
#42
On September 29 2010 05:12 KristianJS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 05:07 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On September 29 2010 04:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
The opponent left without GG.
-After the game ended he PMed me and said he was confused, so he didn't GG, and apologized. I think it's because he was rushed in both games, I can understand.


Why can't Blizzard just put option like this

"Enable auto gg text when leaving (x)" (if needed maybe you can choose from different versions like "gg wp, gg, etc"

This way players don't need to remember type anything

Even A.I has this, why not players?




Typing gg is about the player showing sportsmanship, not some technicality that has to be done. It's like shaking hands after a tennis game or whatever. Having some automatic thing like that would be silly.


We would be so confused by IdrA games with this option on.

"Apologize for playing that race."
"gg."
Yargh
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
September 28 2010 20:16 GMT
#43
are there any Toss left at this point?
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
PulseSUI
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland305 Posts
September 28 2010 20:22 GMT
#44
Artosis claimg that TvP is toss favored, HopeTorture and Ensnare seem to disagree with that.

On September 29 2010 05:07 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Even A.I has this, why not players?


because the point is that a player takes the time to do it him self.
its like the scripts in shooters that write something in to the chat if something specific happens.
making it automatic would just make it loose all the meaning that a honest "gg" or "well playd" at the end of a game has.
and to be honest, if i do not believe that it was a good game, i sure as hell do not want to write gg at the end of the game.
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
September 28 2010 20:23 GMT
#45
Cool is awesome I am rooting for him.
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Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
September 28 2010 20:24 GMT
#46
Thanks for the translations Sheepy <3
And happy birthday!
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 20:26:27
September 28 2010 20:25 GMT
#47
On September 29 2010 05:14 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 05:12 KristianJS wrote:
On September 29 2010 05:07 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On September 29 2010 04:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
The opponent left without GG.
-After the game ended he PMed me and said he was confused, so he didn't GG, and apologized. I think it's because he was rushed in both games, I can understand.


Why can't Blizzard just put option like this

"Enable auto gg text when leaving (x)" (if needed maybe you can choose from different versions like "gg wp, gg, etc"

This way players don't need to remember type anything

Even A.I has this, why not players?




Typing gg is about the player showing sportsmanship, not some technicality that has to be done. It's like shaking hands after a tennis game or whatever. Having some automatic thing like that would be silly.


Well they type it every game, seems automatic to me.

For me its just indication that game ended without any "technical" problems. Would be odd if opponent leaves without saying it then camera zooms to see if player had some problems which crashed or something.



No man, it's not automatic or an indication of no technical troubles, it's about the players showing good sportsmanship when losing. If the computer does it for them then that defeats the whole purpose of it


EDIT: And most people do it because most people are good mannered.
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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
September 28 2010 20:26 GMT
#48
On September 29 2010 05:22 PulseSUI wrote:
Artosis claimg that TvP is toss favored, HopeTorture and Ensnare seem to disagree with that.

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 05:07 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Even A.I has this, why not players?


because the point is that a player takes the time to do it him self.
its like the scripts in shooters that write something in to the chat if something specific happens.
making it automatic would just make it loose all the meaning that a honest "gg" or "well playd" at the end of a game has.
and to be honest, if i do not believe that it was a good game, i sure as hell do not want to write gg at the end of the game.


Thats why give it option to enable automatic "gg" typing. Players who play GSL and BW pros has to type "gg" whether game is good or bad.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
September 28 2010 20:27 GMT
#49
On September 29 2010 05:13 Senx wrote:
I really hope we get a ZvT final.. not beacuse the game will be better and more enjoyable to watch in the finals, but beacuse I want a zerg to win the first really major sc2 tourney. To show that its possible to overcome imbalance.


If you actually thought zerg was overly imbalanced you would be hoping for no zerg in the top 8 or top 16.. I don't think Cool winning would actually be good for zerg considering how closely blizzard is watching this particular tournament... As almost strictly a spectator for this game I don't have much to say about actual imbalance other than that it looks hard for zerg from an outside view... it's funny how zerg's "Fair" map is metalopolis, but I swear Ive seen them get beat on that map every time...

.. just thought I'd point this out... maybe Cool's plan is to 14 hatch in all 5 games in the finals and just get rolled over so bad by ITR that blizzard feels they have to fix zerg? Would be kind of funny if he likes zerg that much he'd be willing to give up that much $... obviously out of the question, but funny to think about ..


However, I don't think this one is actually gonna matter much in the grand scheme of things, GSL 2,3, and 4 are gonna be pretty epic though, lots of really good BW players switching over, and lots of players that might have got unlucky in their GSL 1 qualifiers.... could you imagine being the guy who has to play someone like say from TSL , tester maybe, to make it in to the RO64 ... even if that person is top 8 material, not gonna make it that far... That's what sucks about the first few tournaments of a game, there are no seedings, way to place people into the tournament, so it's a real free for all to get in. Look at some of skill disparities in the gsl ro64.. Im sure in time were gonna see much much closer games in the ro64 and ro32 cause more really good players are gonna be able to make it in through the qualifiers

I also like how b05 is gonna be played through ro16 if I read that correctly, maybe it's ro8.... Im a fan of finding the best player and of a good back and forth series.. this is a great bonus from a spectator's point of view

Overall, really enjoying this tournament so far, and Im hoping for Cool vs ITR finals :D
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
September 28 2010 20:27 GMT
#50
Great interviews. Thanks for translating.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
September 28 2010 20:28 GMT
#51
whoo rainbow
JQL
Profile Joined July 2010
United States214 Posts
September 28 2010 20:30 GMT
#52
On September 29 2010 05:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
are there any Toss left at this point?



No protoss in semi, 3 terran and 1 zerg.
no way
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
September 28 2010 20:31 GMT
#53
I'm pretty sure that Cool is gonna run over liveforever, but facing either ensnare or ITR in the finals is just terrifying. They both have amazingly good TvZ.
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Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
September 28 2010 20:36 GMT
#54
I badly want to say that the Zealot nerf hurt Toss too badly, but I haven't seen the games yet.
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ccdnl
Profile Joined April 2010
United States611 Posts
September 28 2010 20:38 GMT
#55
GOOOOOOOOOO hopetorture!
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 28 2010 20:42 GMT
#56
On September 29 2010 04:34 dcemuser wrote:
"The opponent left without GG.
-After the game ended he PMed me and said he was confused, so he didn't GG, and apologized. I think it's because he was rushed in both games, I can understand."

Wow, this reaffirms that InCa is a great guy, for me at least. I bet all those people posting page after page after page of hate towards him for the "BM" in the live report thread are feeling preeettty silly right about now.

Huh, are you silly yourself? That basically is admitting that he intentionally didn't GG
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john0507
Profile Joined August 2010
164 Posts
September 28 2010 20:46 GMT
#57
I was hoping/expecting to see a Rainbow Maka finals , I guess now it'd more likely be Rainbow Cool , which would be pretty cool.
But I was really quite amazed at how Rainbow totally crused Tester.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 28 2010 20:48 GMT
#58
On September 29 2010 05:36 Percutio wrote:
I badly want to say that the Zealot nerf hurt Toss too badly, but I haven't seen the games yet.


I would honestly say the nerf wasn't so big of a deal on the TvP games, because those needed more sentries.

It probably did hurt Inca though, against the lings.
Yargh
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
September 28 2010 20:49 GMT
#59
On September 29 2010 05:42 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 04:34 dcemuser wrote:
"The opponent left without GG.
-After the game ended he PMed me and said he was confused, so he didn't GG, and apologized. I think it's because he was rushed in both games, I can understand."

Wow, this reaffirms that InCa is a great guy, for me at least. I bet all those people posting page after page after page of hate towards him for the "BM" in the live report thread are feeling preeettty silly right about now.

Huh, are you silly yourself? That basically is admitting that he intentionally didn't GG

"After the match, I got a quick whisper. He apologized and told me that he was so numb absent-minded from the result of the game that he forgot to type GG. I think its because he had to face my strategy twice in a row. I understand."
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john0507
Profile Joined August 2010
164 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 20:51:19
September 28 2010 20:50 GMT
#60
On September 29 2010 05:42 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 04:34 dcemuser wrote:
"The opponent left without GG.
-After the game ended he PMed me and said he was confused, so he didn't GG, and apologized. I think it's because he was rushed in both games, I can understand."

Wow, this reaffirms that InCa is a great guy, for me at least. I bet all those people posting page after page after page of hate towards him for the "BM" in the live report thread are feeling preeettty silly right about now.

Huh, are you silly yourself? That basically is admitting that he intentionally didn't GG


If he thinks it's not a good game , then he doesnt need to type out good game in the game itself.
Him directly talking to the opponent after the match and explaining why is good enough
I don't know why ppl take typing out gg so seriously.
It wasn't a good game to play in , and it wasn't really that good a game to watch either , a 6 pool and a baneling bust.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 20:56:06
September 28 2010 20:55 GMT
#61
On September 29 2010 05:26 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Artosis claimg that TvP is toss favored, HopeTorture and Ensnare seem to disagree with that.


Well, when you steamroll your way into ~100mil won, you probably will disagree with that.
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kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 20:59:01
September 28 2010 20:58 GMT
#62
On September 29 2010 05:55 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 05:26 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Artosis claimg that TvP is toss favored, HopeTorture and Ensnare seem to disagree with that.


Well, when you steamroll your way into ~100mil won, you probably will disagree with that.


T is much too strong early on, but Koreans tend to favour more macro-oriented playstyles (even some Terrans) and if it gets into the lategame, Protoss is better then Terran.

Or has noone noticed that neither Zerg nor Terran wanna play a long game against a Protoss-player? Every player just all-in's against Toss.
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DeckOneBell
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States526 Posts
September 28 2010 21:29 GMT
#63
Excellent interviews, thanks CSheep. Great players in the Ro4.

HopeTorture fightinggg!
Dr.Frost
Profile Joined April 2009
United States389 Posts
September 29 2010 00:44 GMT
#64
For those confused, intotherainbow is on startale with julyzerg and silver.
They are here to right our fall, they have heard someones troubled call???
Buhlbaid
Profile Joined September 2010
Spain32 Posts
September 29 2010 00:47 GMT
#65
I wish Tasteless and Artosis got more excited while casting. Sometimes I feel they're like lost. Just compare with the Korean commentators, they like like they're lovin' it! Just an appreciation, they still rock.
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Solarii
Profile Joined September 2010
United States13 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 01:17:23
September 29 2010 01:16 GMT
#66
Welp. 27 protoss joined the tournament, and all of them got eliminated. I really don't understand why some people dare to say Protoss is the strongest when there are clearly only 8 of them in the top 50 Korea. http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/blog/390545#blog

At least hopetorture care to admit Terran is the strongest.
koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
September 29 2010 01:19 GMT
#67
Weird that Cool thinks ZvT is okay but ZvP is "tough".

If he faces RainBOw in the finals, I don't think he'll have that much chance. TOP's mass thor build was developed by RainBOw while Cool and him were both in oGs still.
Kantutan
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1319 Posts
September 29 2010 01:49 GMT
#68
On September 29 2010 04:34 dcemuser wrote:
"The opponent left without GG.
-After the game ended he PMed me and said he was confused, so he didn't GG, and apologized. I think it's because he was rushed in both games, I can understand."

Wow, this reaffirms that InCa is a great guy, for me at least. I bet all those people posting page after page after page of hate towards him for the "BM" in the live report thread are feeling preeettty silly right about now.


Actually he was probably raging hard but calmed down rather quickly after the match and apologized for it in a way that is respectful to both himself and cool. Everyone needs a good BM ragequit now and then, doesn't make them a bad person.
light3
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia219 Posts
September 29 2010 02:39 GMT
#69
On September 29 2010 04:57 Xxio wrote:
Thank you very much for the timely translation

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 04:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:

Are your confident for the Ro4?
-A lot of people were waiting for a Cool-Maka semifinal, but unfortunately Cool's opponent is now me. I'm sorry to those fans, but since I advanced, I will do my best.


What a horrible, under-confident answer. This guy needs to build an ego.

"but unfortunately Cool's opponent is now me." seriously?


You obviously missed the English interview, quoting from the tourny thread:

- You killed the automaton. How did that make you feel, and did it have a real effect on the game?
- I didn't realize it. I was more worried about Maka.
artosis: why did you send all your scvs after maka's allin failed.
nexliveforever: i wanted to end it fast to get home and eat because i am verhy hungry.
artosis: what do you eat at home then?.
nexliveforever: regular meal
pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
September 29 2010 02:45 GMT
#70
I laughed at the part about "the teammate I practice with can only use void rays."
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epik640x
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1134 Posts
September 29 2010 03:06 GMT
#71
"Besides TvT, everything is easy." -IntoTheRainbow

haha
ddod
Profile Joined April 2009
Bulgaria144 Posts
September 29 2010 06:12 GMT
#72
"I'm immune to Void Rays."

baller or wut?
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SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 06:25:54
September 29 2010 06:23 GMT
#73
On September 29 2010 04:34 dcemuser wrote:
"The opponent left without GG.
-After the game ended he PMed me and said he was confused, so he didn't GG, and apologized. I think it's because he was rushed in both games, I can understand."

Wow, this reaffirms that InCa is a great guy, for me at least. I bet all those people posting page after page after page of hate towards him for the "BM" in the live report thread are feeling preeettty silly right about now.


I've never understood the 'to not GG is BM' if its a crushing loss like what happened in that game, you just want to get the hell out of there and reflect on what you could of done better. Typing two letters into the chat isn't exactly on the top of your head, lol. I can completely understand not wanting to say GG, I only say GG if its actually been a good game, if I'm totally caught off guard by a rush its not a good game. I may learn something from it, but come on, no one enjoys losing I can see enjoying analyzing a loss to improve, but actually being in the middle of the loss no one likes, and even the best of the best can lose their composure sometimes.

Edit - They really gotta do something about the questions for the English cast, so few people are awake for when it is live cast, some really awful questions get asked. (Like couldn't Artosis and Tastless come up with questions of their own related to critical points in the match, would be a lot more effective I think).
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blitzkrieger
Profile Joined September 2010
United States512 Posts
September 29 2010 06:35 GMT
#74
HopeTorture

Besides TvT, everything is easy.


I hope blizzard sees this soooo much. Its one thing if average players cry imba or one race says imba about another (IdrA), but the own race saying its easy is sooo helpful (Morrow, Cool). This really helps the game out since it is really obvious that things need balancing and fast. Terran really needs nerfs still and Zerg needs help. I'm not sure where Protoss is as the zealot nerfs are pretty huge in all matchups.
DeckOneBell
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States526 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 06:38:41
September 29 2010 06:37 GMT
#75
On September 29 2010 15:23 SichuanPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 04:34 dcemuser wrote:
"The opponent left without GG.
-After the game ended he PMed me and said he was confused, so he didn't GG, and apologized. I think it's because he was rushed in both games, I can understand."

Wow, this reaffirms that InCa is a great guy, for me at least. I bet all those people posting page after page after page of hate towards him for the "BM" in the live report thread are feeling preeettty silly right about now.


I've never understood the 'to not GG is BM' if its a crushing loss like what happened in that game, you just want to get the hell out of there and reflect on what you could of done better. Typing two letters into the chat isn't exactly on the top of your head, lol. I can completely understand not wanting to say GG, I only say GG if its actually been a good game, if I'm totally caught off guard by a rush its not a good game. I may learn something from it, but come on, no one enjoys losing I can see enjoying analyzing a loss to improve, but actually being in the middle of the loss no one likes, and even the best of the best can lose their composure sometimes.

Edit - They really gotta do something about the questions for the English cast, so few people are awake for when it is live cast, some really awful questions get asked. (Like couldn't Artosis and Tastless come up with questions of their own related to critical points in the match, would be a lot more effective I think).


A "GG" is the equivalent of many other sports' sportsmanship, such as exchanging handshakes after a game, no matter how badly the game might have went, or how angry or how annoyed you are. So it's bad sportsmanship, or bad manner, to not gg at the end of the game.

But this guy seemed to be pretty quick to apologize. Cool guy.

On September 29 2010 15:35 blitzkrieger wrote:
HopeTorture

Besides TvT, everything is easy.


I hope blizzard sees this soooo much. Its one thing if average players cry imba or one race says imba about another (IdrA), but the own race saying its easy is sooo helpful (Morrow, Cool). This really helps the game out since it is really obvious that things need balancing and fast. Terran really needs nerfs still and Zerg needs help. I'm not sure where Protoss is as the zealot nerfs are pretty huge in all matchups.


Pretty sure this is because IntoTheRainbow/HopeTorture is a super badass gigaballer.
blitzkrieger
Profile Joined September 2010
United States512 Posts
September 29 2010 06:41 GMT
#76
On September 29 2010 15:12 ddod wrote:
"I'm immune to Void Rays."

baller or wut?


Not really. Void Rays are easily countered when you get to a certain skill. They can't do anything against marines with stim or hydras and 1 viking can kill any amount of voidrays.

Queens also destroy voidrays once you get a few since transfusion is very powerful. In fact you have to use a phoenix to disable other queens in order to stop the transfusion or else you lose. I do this with both phoenix and void rays (+1 phoenix) or you can't deal with queens at all.

Void Rays have been significantly nerfed over time. They lost hp, their 2nd damage stage, range, and I believe there was even a slight speed nerf.
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
September 29 2010 06:42 GMT
#77
On September 29 2010 09:47 Buhlbaid wrote:
I wish Tasteless and Artosis got more excited while casting. Sometimes I feel they're like lost. Just compare with the Korean commentators, they like like they're lovin' it! Just an appreciation, they still rock.


im pretty sure they are excited. artosis couldnt wait for the match to start. so i dont get what your saying.
zak
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1009 Posts
September 29 2010 07:02 GMT
#78
lol itr beats tester?! i think then he will take the whole thing!
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RoMarX
Profile Joined April 2010
Argentina189 Posts
September 29 2010 07:39 GMT
#79
On September 29 2010 10:19 koppik wrote:
Weird that Cool thinks ZvT is okay but ZvP is "tough".

If he faces RainBOw in the finals, I don't think he'll have that much chance. TOP's mass thor build was developed by RainBOw while Cool and him were both in oGs still.


its not weird, all the top players think that.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 29 2010 08:32 GMT
#80
Cool wrote:
-ZvP is still very hard, but I'm confident in my ZvT.
In BW Cool had 60% ZvT, and 3-0 vs NaDa. He's always been twice as good at ZvT than the other matchups.
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Askesis
Profile Joined September 2010
216 Posts
September 29 2010 10:48 GMT
#81

.. just thought I'd point this out... maybe Cool's plan is to 14 hatch in all 5 games in the finals and just get rolled over so bad by ITR that blizzard feels they have to fix zerg? Would be kind of funny if he likes zerg that much he'd be willing to give up that much $... obviously out of the question, but funny to think about ..

I would think it would be much more effective if he threw a match early to a Terran, both so we could say one of the best zergs lost to a nub terran and so they would see an all Terran final four.

In your scenario, the argument would be that Z are UP cause one made it to the finals and lost, totally neglecting the fact of no Protoss in semis?

Why did I reply? I'm adding to the pointlessness of this unfathomable hypothetical *facepalm*
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