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Sanasante
United States321 Posts
While without a doubt I agree with Boxer and Bisu in this statement I would think about things before you spout them out. Nada was one of your first fundamentals "Mechanical style of play" that your referring to. Most people did not play SC1 this far back and may not be aware of that. I also find it funny that no one else has noticed it yet. | ||
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mardi
United States1164 Posts
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ooni
Australia1498 Posts
You don't have to be smart... But if you are dumb you will suck at RTS in general... | ||
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dave333
United States915 Posts
Maybe this doesn't happen in SC2 yet (still kind of limited) but there are so many strategies and openers in BW and it takes a good analytical mind to try to predict what your opponent will do and what you should do. A lot of it is game theory, and I'm sure many of the to pros are very good at that in tournaments. | ||
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Gecko
United States519 Posts
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
So no, you don't have to be especially intelligent generally, just more intelligent than your opponent within a specific time-frame. | ||
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Uncultured
United States1340 Posts
 I think the problem with this topic is defining "smart." Something that I believe the entire world has been hard-pressed to do. We all have varying levels of ability, knowledge, ideas, and mechanical skill. How we use them can affect our games in varying ways. Does it need to be any more complicated than that? | ||
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Lucktar
United States526 Posts
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
On September 21 2010 10:23 KezseN wrote: Whts with the machine joke? i dont get it read muh quote in BW machine was zerg. pure mechanics and apm. kid had like 300 apmz which is sick for a foreigner, especially US. but he was pants on head retarded when it came to anything but macro. his micro was terrible, spurring the quote by his team, EG "MACHINEEEEE MICROOOOOO" alluding to terrible micro occurring. its a normal joke on the team that machine is awful. mostly because he is. | ||
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barrykp
Ireland174 Posts
I don't think it requires as much intelligence as say, chess, but generally speaking, most top Starcraft players I've seen come across as pretty intelligent. Many people think that to become a professional chess player one needs to be very intelligent. To reach the top 10 in the world this is undoubtedly true, but there are ordinary professional chess players with IQ scores below average.Intelligence helps of course, but becoming a professional chess player really just requires lots of memorisation and training. The most important trait is probably motivation (the desire to win). Many famous chess players are notoriously bad losers. If you want a chess equivalent of idrA probably the best example is Viktor Korchnoi, who levelled all sorts of accusations (hypnosis, psychology, spying etc etc) against his opponents, and frequently trash talked them (relatively speaking that is - obviously the things he said might seem tame to someone used to 21st-Century internet forums). Anyway I suspect the same is true of starcraft 2. If you have a strong desire to win and you do the right kind of training those 2 things are more important than your intelligence. | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
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GiantEnemyCrab
Canada503 Posts
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Authweight
United States304 Posts
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Williowa
129 Posts
Being smart though makes players like Peyton Manning get constant praise for being brilliant for what the casual observer looks at simply as being a good QB not a smart QB. | ||
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latan
740 Posts
it could be argued how much actual strategy is involved in starcraft, but being smart will always help you in one way or another. | ||
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Gentlebite
United States132 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
If it didn't take any intelligence we should see almost every player being able to come up with great new strategies, yet most don't do so. Yes, mechanics are still a major player, and if your mechanics are above the level of most of your opponents you can still do well, simple because there does exist a framework within which the game is played, so even if you can't innovate or improvise super well, by just microing better, macroing better, more multitask you can still give players a fight through sheer fundamental play. Think of a golfer that has the ability to hit genius shots, he has wonderful control of the ball, can really work a shot any way he wants, great imagination, etc, but he has kind of a lose and sloppy swing and hits the ball only 240 yards. He has genius, but not great fundamentals. Player B on the other hand only has one shot, but he does it well and has alot more distance. Player A is going to struggle with B because B is hitting such shorter shots that regardless of his lack of creativity hes just going to put the ball in their closer to the hole more regularly than A, despite A's genius. It's similar in starcraft; if you're able to out macro and out multitask your opponent you can still be able to win even without brilliant strategy because he can't keep up. At the top level though that tends to be reduced because everyone has great mechanics. There is a reason the top BW players like Flash and Jaedong are also known to be some of the smartest and most creative players; they all have great mechanics at that level, so its your ability to innovate and adapt that really seperates very good from true S class. | ||
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SaikOuLighT
Canada742 Posts
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Shakes
Australia557 Posts
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