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Stutter Step Practice Map (Now with Zerg & Protoss

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qxc
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States550 Posts
September 17 2010 20:14 GMT
#1
Map download
[url blocked]

For those who don't know I made a map to practice attack animation canceling or stutter step micro as I've been calling it some number of weeks ago. That map only featured Terran and was slightly buggy with how it worked.



I have revised said map to include zerg/protoss and modified it to be a bit more friendly (read| Less buggy).

Basically what the map does is give you an isolated environment to practice the timing attack animation canceling for any unit you want. Essentially how this works is you issue an attack order and then immediately after damage is dealt issue a movie order so that the unit effectively attacks & moves. Still confused? Check out the video.

While you're on youtube check out my channel. I've recently started commentating games and have put a number up on my channel. I'm still new to casting so I'm working out some of the kinks still (overlay/quality/volume). Check it out and let me know what you think.
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Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
September 17 2010 20:16 GMT
#2
Wow this is a really great idea, love it
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rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 20:22:16
September 17 2010 20:16 GMT
#3
A top player and you help us noobs as well by sharing your tools. And you set it up for all 3 races instead of just Terran. Yay!
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Rhyme
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1069 Posts
September 17 2010 20:17 GMT
#4
cool, will check it out.

have you made any practice maps that you haven't released/use privately?
dont ever say that
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
September 17 2010 20:19 GMT
#5
I guess you didn't get the memo. Day[9] said in his 164th and 172nd Daily that the terms "animation canceling" and "stutter step" have been replaced by "scoot and shoot" and "stop and go."
Nightfall.589
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada766 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 20:22:34
September 17 2010 20:21 GMT
#6
The megaupload page tells me that: "The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable."

Edit: And... Now it works. Fantastic :D
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JrK
Profile Joined June 2010
United States283 Posts
September 17 2010 20:22 GMT
#7
Cool thank you QXC!
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Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
September 17 2010 20:24 GMT
#8
On September 18 2010 05:19 PokePill wrote:
I guess you didn't get the memo. Day[9] said in his 164th and 172nd Daily that the terms "animation canceling" and "stutter step" have been replaced by "scoot and shoot" and "stop and go."



I like "scoot and shoot"

or maybe "stop n pop", though that might sound kinda stupid, not very good at names Either way my MM micro isnt what it could be, so this will be really usefull
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 20:30:17
September 17 2010 20:26 GMT
#9
Zerg is pretty sucky for using this.
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Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
September 17 2010 20:30 GMT
#10
This is already widely known in WC3 as the "orb walk"
onewingedmoogle
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada434 Posts
September 17 2010 20:32 GMT
#11
so micro in sc2 boils down to attack move --> move --> attack move
TT_TT
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 20:52:19
September 17 2010 20:33 GMT
#12
Genius concept, wonderful followup to your other UMSs.

Edit: I watched one of your casts, was pretty good, but the resolution makes it a little difficult to see the overlay and specific numbers on the screen (minerals, supply, etc). Having an out-tro might also be helpful at the end (saying "this has been a QXCast, thanks for watching", or something similar).
Good luck casting!
Damnesiac
Profile Joined August 2010
United States53 Posts
September 17 2010 20:35 GMT
#13
People have to practice this?..... what has the world come to.
rycho
Profile Joined July 2010
United States360 Posts
September 17 2010 20:35 GMT
#14
On September 18 2010 05:30 Glacierz wrote:
This is already widely known in WC3 as the "orb walk"


orb walking is using your attack modifier ability (in dota/hon) to autoattack the enemy hero without getting creep aggro (because it counts as a spell not an autoattack), its completely different from the normal attack/move/attack.
Mrbustanut
Profile Joined May 2010
121 Posts
September 17 2010 20:36 GMT
#15
Lol people are arguing over the naming convention. How about giving props to QXC to creating this very useful map.

RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
September 17 2010 20:40 GMT
#16
well done qxc another good map to add to the community!
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
September 17 2010 20:42 GMT
#17
Awesome! Looks like a helpful map, I'll give it a try Thanks!
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
September 17 2010 21:08 GMT
#18
On September 18 2010 05:35 rycho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 05:30 Glacierz wrote:
This is already widely known in WC3 as the "orb walk"


orb walking is using your attack modifier ability (in dota/hon) to autoattack the enemy hero without getting creep aggro (because it counts as a spell not an autoattack), its completely different from the normal attack/move/attack.


correct, I was sad I couldn't do similar things in LoL, but being that LoL is better in every other way I'll stick with it.

Zerg definitely can use this, roach vs slowling this micro rapes, and though mutas are a slightly different concept, they work on mostly the same fundamentals.
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
September 17 2010 21:10 GMT
#19
On September 18 2010 05:35 rycho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 05:30 Glacierz wrote:
This is already widely known in WC3 as the "orb walk"


orb walking is using your attack modifier ability (in dota/hon) to autoattack the enemy hero without getting creep aggro (because it counts as a spell not an autoattack), its completely different from the normal attack/move/attack.


I have to point out something that is in no way obvious, but "orb walking" also involves "walking", and just using your orb manually does not involve "walking".



The difference between orb walking and normal animation cancelling is that you can issue the move command before your hero launches his projectile and it won't cancel the attack, but will cancel the backswing, so you don't need to time it and it will execute perfectly every time.
I'll call Nada.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 21:17:01
September 17 2010 21:14 GMT
#20
On September 18 2010 05:35 rycho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 05:30 Glacierz wrote:
This is already widely known in WC3 as the "orb walk"


orb walking is using your attack modifier ability (in dota/hon) to autoattack the enemy hero without getting creep aggro (because it counts as a spell not an autoattack), its completely different from the normal attack/move/attack.

wtf?

Autoattack?

Are we talking about stuff like Viper's poison/slow attack? How is that autoattack? You manually use the ability and move right after the shooting animation happens.

I'm still not sure how this is different from move attack, if there is one.

Isn't kiting the same thing? (TBH I'm still unclear as to what the difference between kiting and move attacking is)


edit: poster above me answered my question about move attack/animation cancelling vs orb walk.

Before I knew you only called orb walking for targetted spells, but that clears this up.
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